Sinead O'Connor's letter to Miley Cyrus

[Cheesypoof]

Fair play to Sinead O'Connor

http://www.thatericalper.com/2013/1...51925312165491":"og.likes"}&action_ref_map=[]

 

[bi0boy]

It's really none of her business what Miley Cyrus gets up to so why she felt the need to write that letter and make it public I have no idea.

 

[Thimble Queen]

There was something quite shaming about it that made me feel uncomfortable...

 

[jakejb79]

It's really none of her business what Miley Cyrus gets up to so why she felt the need to write that letter and make it public I have no idea.

Publicity

 

[SaskiaJayne]

Its pretentious bollocks. Miley is loaded anyway, her dads Billy Ray Cyrus so she don't give a shit, she has no talent to obscure & if she wants to be 'cool' by licking sledgehammers & being naked & all that, why not?

 

[killer b]

Its not really a letter to Miley Cyrus is it? Its using Miley Cyrus to get her political point across. Which is a fair one, if some of the language is a bit discomforting. All this talk of prostituting left a rather sour taste.

 

[butchersapron]

Its not really a letter to Miley Cyrus is it? Its using Miley Cyrus to get her political point across. Which is a fair one, if some of the language is a bit discomforting. All this talk of prostituting left a rather sour taste.

So she used someone to warn that nasty people will use people. That sounds like Sinead logic all right.

 

[killer b]

So she used someone to warn that nasty people will use people. That sounds like Sinead logic all right.

yeah, it is a bit shit.

 

[Badgers]

My open letter to Justin Bieber never got anywhere near this attention

 

[Fozzie Bear]

I think the original letter was a bit patronising but had some good points. None of which have been developed in any useful way in the subsequent "debate".

ETA:


Miley tweets some nonsense and Sinead writes a 2nd letter http://www.factmag.com/2013/10/04/y...letter-to-miley-cyrus-threatens-legal-action/

Amanda Palmer gets in on the act http://www.factmag.com/2013/10/03/a...-to-sinead-oconnor-in-support-of-miley-cyrus/

Guardian http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/oct/03/sinead-oconnor-miley-cyrus

 

[Badgers]

Its pretentious bollocks. Miley is loaded anyway, her dads Billy Ray Cyrus so she don't give a shit, she has no talent to obscure & if she wants to be 'cool' by licking sledgehammers & being naked & all that, why not?

 

[bi0boy]

There was something quite shaming about it that made me feel uncomfortable...

It's a bit ironic that Sinnead ends by saying this: "Mockery causes deaths. Period. It is an unacceptable form of bullying, no matter who it is doing the bullying."

 

[billy_bob]

Starting with 'in the spirit of motherliness' is nauseating condescension. Brings to mind:

So what is this "speaking as a mother" then? Is that a euphemism for "talking out of my arse"? "Suspending rational thought for a moment"? "As a rational human being, Al-Qaeda are a loose association of psychopathic zealots who could be rounded up with a sustained police investigation. But speaking as a parent, they’re all eight foot tall, they’ve got lasers under their moustaches, a huge eye in their foreheads and the only way to kill them is to NUKE every country that hasn’t sent us a Christmas card in the the last 20 years!! ...Speaking as a mother"

Perhaps she'd have made some valid points/got the same publicity (delete as applicable) without losing the moral high ground quite so rapidly if she'd hectored Robin Thicke instead?

 

[Kizmet]

Has Robin Thicke shaved his head and ripped off her video then?

 

[killer b]

Perhaps she'd have made some valid points/got the same publicity (delete as applicable) without losing the moral high ground quite so rapidly if she'd hectored Robin Thicke instead?

tbf this was 'in response' to some comments by cyrus citing her as a role model. but she could have made the same points without the patronising, and without the shaming, and still got the same publicity. it's erm a shame really.

 

[billy_bob]

Well quite. Which rather points to the suspicion that she's more concerned at having her high art, more-earnest-than-thou-ness appropriated by a little upstart in revealing clothing than she is at any implications for the upstart's self-respect and empowerment.

e2a: this was in response to Kizmet

 

[Kizmet]

Well quite. Which rather points to the suspicion that she's more concerned at having her high art, more-earnest-than-thou-ness appropriated by a little upstart in revealing clothing than she is at any implications for the upstart's self-respect and empowerment.

e2a: this was in response to Kizmet

To be fair the woman has proved by her actions that she is more earnest than most.

Which makes the turning of those actions into fashion statements by someone who does not believe in them a pretty fair reason to be annoyed.

 

[DRINK?]

So Sinnead assumes that because Miley got naked, she is incapable of rational thought?

Very progressive....

sinneads second letter is crazy.....both dicks though Sinnead is deluded and given that she has dined out on one hit for the last 20 odd years don't think she is the best person to be giving out advise on longevity, fuck off back to pestering Jesus

 

[DRINK?]

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[Onket]

On YouTube there's a video of O Connor ruining one of my favourite songs.

 

[butchersapron]

So Sinnead assumes that because Miley got naked, she is incapable of rational thought?

Very progressive....

She assumed the exact opposite i believe.

 

[Onket]

On YouTube there's a video of O Connor ruining one of my favourite songs.

Someone needs to write her an open letter about this-

 

[Kizmet]

So Sinnead assumes that because Miley got naked, she is incapable of rational thought?

Very progressive....

sinneads second letter is crazy.....both dicks though Sinnead is deluded and given that she has dined out on one hit for the last 20 odd years don't think she is the best person to be giving out advise on longevity, fuck off back to pestering Jesus

If I'm honest Miley Cyrus getting naked almost made me incapable of rational thought!

I quite like Miley, I thought she was pretty funny and talented when I watched Hannah Montana with my daughter. But you could quite easily guess the career trajectory she was destined for. I think that its a shame that a young womans path to fame is made so damn predictable. And, yes, she is turning into a dickhead. I think thats what that path does to a person.

 

[killer b]

objectifying a woman on a thread about a furore about objectification of women? how post modern.

 

[butchersapron]

Here come the sleaze.

 

[Kizmet]

Oh do grow up.

 

[kabbes]

Clash of the generations, there. But despite the clear faults already identified in this thread, I still had sympathy for the original letter. The follow-up tweets were lollorifically ridiculous.

 

[killer b]

Well quite. Which rather points to the suspicion that she's more concerned at having her high art, more-earnest-than-thou-ness appropriated by a little upstart in revealing clothing than she is at any implications for the upstart's self-respect and empowerment.

I think it's fair enough that O'connor would want to reply, seeing as her image and whatnot had been used by Cyrus to say apparently the exact opposite of what O'connor has been saying her entire career. but, yes. it's not really about Cyrus's self respect and empowerment at all.

 

[Yetman]

Sinead: "You're not going out dressed like that!"
Miley: " Fuck off Mum you used to be a mental"

(Frankie Boyle )

 

[kabbes]

Sinead: "You're not going out dressed like that!"
Miley: " Fuck off Mum you used to be a mental"

(Frankie Boyle )

Boyle's a cunt, but you have to say that he's pretty much nailed it.