Ship porn

[weltweit]

Latest attempts to refloat her have failed.

Engineers are considering moving some of her cargo.

Imagine if she sinks right there?

wtf

 

[teuchter]

Their error was in not having you involved in the contingency planning.

And with hindsight many people are asking: why?

 

[T & P]

It seems a little surprising that the Suez canal didn't have an emergency plan already prepared for this kind of situation. Or did they? It seems like the sort of thing you might worry about, if you were operating a canal through which pass hundreds of massive ships that only just fit.

TBF this is the very first time in the entire existence of the canal that something like this has happened, so with a risk factor as low as that it would have been hard to justify the cost of building and maintaining cranes all along the shore so they can one day offload a stuck ship faster.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Just nuke the fucker.

 

[Crispy]

Latest attempts to refloat her have failed.

Engineers are considering moving some of her cargo.

Imagine if she sinks right there?

wtf

The bottom of the canal is only like 10m or so below the bottom of the ship. It'd barely move.

 

[Duncan2]

Paging Elon

 

[weltweit]

The bottom of the canal is only like 10m or so below the bottom of the ship. It'd barely move.

I was thinking more about the effect on trade

 

[spitfire]

Build a wall around it. Fill with water. Ship floats. Turn ship.
Should only take a few weeks.

Probly.

 

[StoneRoad]

TBF this is the very first time in the entire existence of the canal that something like this has happened, so with a risk factor as low as that it would have been hard to justify the cost of building and maintaining cranes all along the shore so they can one day offload a stuck ship faster.

There was a similar incident (grounding) in 2017, but the canal authority got the ship afloat again within hours, IIRC.
[from memory of one of the Beeb pieces I read this morning]

 

[existentialist]

Build a wall around it. Fill with water. Ship floats. Turn ship.
Should only take a few weeks.

Probly.

I feel a conveyor belt needs to be involved, somehow...

 

[Lancman]

Dig a 400 metre trench in the sand directly ahead of the ship as she lies. Float the ship in there. Open a bazaar.

 

[T & P]

While reading about this issue I’ve come across a couple of articles about the plans for a rival canal crossing via Eliat and the Dead Sea, which have been recently gathering pace.

Israel have long had ambitions to build such canal but could not make it work without Saudi Arabia’s collaboration, as the latter has territorial control over two islands any ship wanting to use the canal would have to go through. The recent peace accord between the two nations has suddenly made this not just possible, but a lucrative and politically powerful project to embrace.

It would have some positive effects in the area though; as part of the project the Dead Sea would be replenished with brine/ compatible ph water to stop its rapidly accelerating shrinking. And more importantly, desalination plants would be built and Amman and surrounding areas of Jordan, which are permanently short of water, would be supplied by a new pipeline.

Egypt however is less than happy with the proposal...

Redirect Notice

 

[pug]

A decent sized nuclear device should vapourise it and widen the canal, be quite cheap and quick too.

 

[StoneRoad]

A decent sized nuclear device should vapourise it and widen the canal, be quite cheap and quick too.

and drop plenty of radioactive fallout

 

[spitfire]

and drop plenty of radioactive fallout

Details.

Think of the big picture.

My future PS5 might be on that ship.

 

[muscovyduck]

#youparklikeacunt

 

[Artaxerxes]

Dig a 400 metre trench in the sand directly ahead of the ship as she lies. Float the ship in there. Open a bazaar.

 

[steveo87]

Have thought about maybe a ramp?
Like an Eval Kineaval-type ramp?

 

[TopCat]

Is it free now?

 

[cupid_stunt]

Is it free now?

No, it's likely to take weeks.

If anyone fancies sending crazy ideas on how to free it, here's a link.

But are the experts missing something? We would like to hear from you about how the ship could be freed, particularly if you are a salvage expert, an engineer or you have significant experience in shipping.

Suez canal blockage: tell us your ideas for how the Ever Given can be refloated

We would like to hear from readers about how the giant container ship Ever Given could be freed

www.theguardian.com

 

[kebabking]

Opportunities here for the Falklands, St Helena, and Tristan da Cunha - if ships have to go the long ways round, a bit of fresh food might be worth a penny or two....

 

[Sprocket.]

This would be a challenging job for Fred Dibnah.

 

[TopCat]

No, it's likely to take weeks.

If anyone fancies sending crazy ideas on how to free it, here's a link.

Suez canal blockage: tell us your ideas for how the Ever Given can be refloated

We would like to hear from readers about how the giant container ship Ever Given could be freed

www.theguardian.com

I recollect that oil leak on the seabed in the Gulf of Mexico. My suggestion was human bronchial phlegm, Weetabix, human hair all mixed up and shot into the hole.

 

[mauvais]

a lot ...

assume your ship can maintain 15 knots 24 hours a day, that's 360 miles a day, I think.
5,500 miles via Cape of Good Hope would take at least 15 days and a lot of bunker fuel.

e2a i don't think that's right, - it doesn't allow for any difference between day / night sailing, deviations, stops or weather events.

The Suez Canal saves about 9 days. Your calcs missed out that it still takes time to transit the canal, which has a low speed limit as well.

Edit: depends where you're going. A European destination makes it a longer delay than say the USA, maybe 13 days.

 

[TopCat]

The sea around the cape of good hope can be a tad unsettled no?

 

[A380]

And with hindsight many people are asking: why?

Many = You

 

[TopCat]

What’s the profile of the bottom of the ship? Is there a diagram?

 

[A380]

They should float a giant Antarctic iceberg up the canal to sink the ship, problem solved - although they would need to source a dance quartet to play ‘nearer my god to thee’ - which might prove to be the one tiny flaw in my plan.

 

[cupid_stunt]

They should float a giant Antarctic iceberg up the canal to sink the ship, problem solved - although they would need to source a dance quartet to play ‘nearer my god to thee’ - which might prove to be the one tiny flaw in my plan.

I hope you have submitted that idea to The Guardian.

 

[A380]

I hope you have submitted that idea to The Guardian.

I have now.