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Bahnhof Strasse
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T & P
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Well that takes the shine off a bit this supposedly fearsome task foce, doesn't it? 
Perhaps the the Royal Navy needn't have bothered shadowing the Russian fleet.
ETA: I've just watched some footage of the aircraft carrier on Sky News... that's an awful lot of black smoke being produced by the engines. I don't think that ship would pass a UK MOT with such emissions...
Russian warships sail down English Channel
Perhaps the the Royal Navy needn't have bothered shadowing the Russian fleet.ETA: I've just watched some footage of the aircraft carrier on Sky News... that's an awful lot of black smoke being produced by the engines. I don't think that ship would pass a UK MOT with such emissions...
Russian warships sail down English Channel
dylanredefined
Not a house elf a tiger
Well that takes the shine off a bit this supposedly fearsome task foce, doesn't it?
ETA: I've just watched some footage of the aircraft carrier on Sky News... that's an awful lot of black smoke being produced by the engines. I don't think that ship would pass a UK MOT with such emissions...
Russian warships sail down English Channel
Well we don't have that many fishing boats now still better safe than sorry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogger_Bank_incident
The aircraft carrier has a tug boat in permanent attendance cos it breaks down a lot 
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
The aircraft carrier has a tug boat in permanent attendance cos it breaks down a lot
MASSIVE set of jump-leads.
I might go and intercept them later on, lovely day for a sail down here 
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
I might go and intercept them later on, lovely day for a sail down here
My dad has just passed the Nab, he's heading out for a nosey!
sleaterkinney
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Does it run on coal or something?.
StoneRoad
heckling from the back!
Well we don't have that many fishing boats now still better safe than sorry
'kin 'ell - I never knew that, what a carry on.
twentythreedom - make sure you've got a tin 'at and flak jacket on !
and those images ... I thought that smoke screens would be ineffective against radar
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The Ruskies are there already?
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
No, his boat has cruises at the giddy speed of 6kts, by the IoW the East-West lane is about 11 miles out, might take him most of the day to get there!
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
this is how we won the cold war
slow and steady old chaps
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
I think it runs on old car tyres...
One one of the few occasions it manages to get out of port it sailed down the west coast of Ireland and left an oil slick so large that the Irish Navy initially thought a ship had gone down.
Displacement vessels are limited by max hull speed (square root of waterline length in feet multiplied by 1.35)It does 6 at full sail, or 6 with the engines on. Full sail + engines still = 6
What boat is it?
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
not-bono-ever
meh
stole from the facebopok dover marina page
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
we've got an aircraft carrier - its just that ours is a rotary wing aircraft carrier rather than a fixed wing aircraft carrier...
don't be too impressed, Kutnezsov is a vessel who's capability is crippled by a fundamental design flaw: she is too short. she is so short that while her MiG-29 FULCRUM and SU-33 FLANKER's can take off and land, they can only do so when unencumbered by things like fuel and weapons...
so, when you see a USN carrier you'll see F/A-18's taking off from the Persian Gulf with full internal fuel, external fuel tanks, bombs, missiles, ECM and ISTAR pods and they'll do the best part of a 1800 mile round trip to bomb the crap out of IS up near the Turkish border - on the other hand, when you see one of Kutnezsov's FLANKER's taking off it will carry a pair of lightweight air-to-air missiles, no external fuel, and problably not even full internal fuel. it will fly around the carrier group twice and then land with about a pint of fuel left in its tanks.
looks good, fuck all use.
A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
we've got an aircraft carrier - its just that ours is a rotary wing aircraft carrier rather than a fixed wing aircraft carrier...
don't be too impressed, Kutnezsov is a vessel who's capability is crippled by a fundamental design flaw: she is too short. she is so short that while her MiG-29 FULCRUM and SU-33 FLANKER's can take off and land, they can only do so when unencumbered by things like fuel and weapons...
so, when you see a USN carrier you'll see F/A-18's taking off from the Persian Gulf with full internal fuel, external fuel tanks, bombs, missiles, ECM and ISTAR pods and they'll do the best part of a 1800 mile round trip to bomb the crap out of IS up near the Turkish border - on the other hand, when you see one of Kutnezsov's FLANKER's taking off it will carry a pair of lightweight air-to-air missiles, no external fuel, and problably not even full internal fuel. it will fly around the carrier group twice and then land with about a pint of fuel left in its tanks.
looks good, fuck all use.
I'll grant you HMS Ocean, the Mighty O, helicopter landing ship. But we only call it a carrier because we don't have fixed wing naval aviation any more. The Queen Elizabeth and Prince of Wales (If we ever commission the PoW) might give us that again. Although the way the F35 is going the aircraft might be French (unless they tell us to fuck off now).
Still at least we have our own maritime patrol aircraft and a robust attack submarine fleet, oh hang on....
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They do have plans for a proper aircraft carrier, but as with all Russian military projects, it remains unclear when, if ever, it will see the light of day
Project 23000E - Wikipedia
Project 23000E - Wikipedia
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
the O boat is a carrier though, and its been used in the strike role - as a concept how is making stuff in Libya go 'bang' with an AH-64 from Ocean in the Med different to making stuff go 'bang' on the FI with a Harrier from Hermes in the South Atlantic?
F-35 is now going well, it'll be ready when QE is ready to take them - RAF and RN crews are already flying them in the US, and 617 sqn will be moving out there nect year to begin the initial operating capability process. the first UK F-35 detachment will sail on QE in 2018, and we'll have a full working QE and F-35 capability in 2019/20. the plan is for both QE and PoW to be commisioned, and the RN has been funded to man both carriers.
i'm not going to argue that every decision has been brilliant, or that we don't have massive gaps caused by idiocy and penny-pinching, or that where we are is the product of some fantastic master plan, but truth is that by 2020 we'll be back on the road of being a naval superpower - and by 2025 we'll be second only to the USN.
