Sharon Osbourne - what an awful woman

[weltweit]

So fucking what?
Suspect you don't criticise or even mention the appearance of men who get caught doing something wrong. Why is that, do you suppose?

Actually you are wrong, I used her appearance to think that the program might have been made a while ago because she looks younger than I recall from when I saw her last. And I think that is acceptable, for example I also looked at the team captains, they both seem to have had beards etc for quite a while which suggested to me that it still may or may not have been a program from the past.

 

[Marty1]

So fucking what?
Suspect you don't criticise or even mention the appearance of men who get caught doing something wrong. Why is that, do you suppose?

lol, I don’t criticise her appearance - but you and others assumed that - now why is that?

Also - why did you skim over this:

Sharon Osbourne - what an awful woman

Hmm....

Anyway, please take your off topic shit elsewhere, I’ll not be indulging you again.

 

[moochedit]

I used her appearance to think that the program might have been made a while ago because she looks younger than I recall from when I saw her last. And I think that is acceptable, for example I also looked at the team captains, they both seem to have had beards etc for quite a while which suggested to me that it still may or may not have been a program from the past.

No it's a new show (s13 ep6). First shown 26th Dec 2019.

List of Would I Lie to You? episodes - Wikipedia

Not that it makes any difference when she did it, when she talked about it or what she looks like of course.

 

[JimW]

lol, I don’t criticise her appearance - but you and others assumed that - now why is that?

Because you did. Chickening out and adding some weasel words later doesn't change it or make you any less obvious.

 

[Marty1]

Because you did. Chickening out and adding some weasel words later doesn't change it or make you any less obvious.

Are you one of those Twitter mob people who can start arguments with themselves in an empty room?

I’ll leave you to it, as you were

 

[JimW]

Are you one of those Twitter mob people who can start arguments with themselves in an empty room?

I’ll leave you to it, as you were

It's still posted up there for all to see, brave Sir Robin.

 

[SheilaNaGig]

It was gratuitous Marty1 .

Her outward appearance, with or without plastic surgery , beforehand or after it, has no bearing on the issue here.



And weltweit , I’m calling you out too for bringing her appearance into the discussion on the back of that misogynistic twitter thing. I do believe that your disingenuous naïveté thing isn’t actually an act, but it doesn’t get you a free pass on this kind of bullshit.

 

[Reno]

Either 1) the clip is from a long time ago or 2) plastic surgery has come a long way

Nearly every older famous person in the US showbusiness has had cosmetic surgery. Most you don’t or barely notice. There are people who go to the wrong surgeons, who advise them to do too much at once and then there are those who have some type of dysmorphia and who can’t stop having surgery. So people think the surgery you can obviously see is what all cosmetic surgery looks like. Sharon Osbourne has the money to afford a top surgeon and she knows what not to do.

....and of course cosmetic surgery is no indicator of a person's character. Everybody knows that Dolly Parton is the most delightful human on the planet.

 

[Marty1]

It was gratuitous Marty1 .

Her outward appearance, with or without plastic surgery , beforehand or after it, has no bearing on the issue here.

I thought it interesting how she’s changed her appearance over the years - quite a transformation, and what with her latest anecdote regarding sacking one of her staff after retrieving art work from her burning house, reminds me of the fictional Cruella de Vil.

But misogyny? - nope.

 

[friedaweed]

Last bunfight of the year then...

 

[SheilaNaGig]

I thought it interesting how she’s changed her appearance over the years - quite a transformation, and what with her latest anecdote regarding sacking one of her staff after retrieving art work from her burning house, reminds me of the fictional Cruella de Vil.

But misogyny? - nope.

I think you need to reassess your understanding of what misogyny/sexism actually is.

Why are you linking her appearance to her behaviour *at all*?

If this was a thread about how people's appearance changes over time or how plastic surgery can transform a person's appearance you'd be on firm ground. If this was a thread about the (dis)connection between what people look like and how they behave it would be a dodgy thread but at least your post would be on topic.

Posting up a Twitter thing about her physical appearance on a thread about her behaviour is reductive at best, it's certainly objectifying, and it looks misogynistic.

You are reducing the person to their physical appearance.




Fucksake.


ETA
Cruella deVille. So she's a cartoon character. Great stuff.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

She once told me I had “fabulous hair” so, you know, not all bad.

 

[Marty1]

I think you need to reassess your understanding of what misogyny/sexism actually is.

Good point, I think I’m less sensitive to the interpretation than others.

Anyway, moving on...

 

[DexterTCN]

What a vile woman. They've always been annoying - never saw the appeal in them at all.

#notallwomen

 

[weltweit]

Nearly every older famous person in the US showbusiness has had cosmetic surgery. Most you don’t or barely notice. There are people who go to the wrong surgeons, who advise them to do too much at once and then there are those who have some type of dysmorphia and who can’t stop having surgery. So people think the surgery you can obviously see is what all cosmetic surgery looks like. Sharon Osbourne has the money to afford a top surgeon and she knows what not to do.

....and of course cosmetic surgery has no bearing on a person's character. Everybody knows that Dolly Parton is the most wonderful human being on the planet.

I just thought she looked younger than I recall her being so thought the program might have been an old one. Sorry if that is not permitted, but older people, like me, usually have some wrinkles. And yes I look at males the same way. I quite often watch WILTY and the two team captains have had beards for some time so I couldn't guess the age of the program from them alone.

 

[D'wards]

Her old man (estranged (dead)) Don Arden was quite the prick too

 

[weltweit]

It might have helped me had I read :

during an appearance on the Christmas special of "Would I Lie To You?."

 

[Mrs Miggins]

Her old man (estranged (dead)) Don Arden was quite the prick too

Just been reading about him. Sounds like a delightful fellow.

 

[Rebelda]

Can I just say, having been too fucking tired of it to bother, it really pleased me to see male posters challenging the misogyny here. I know you don't want or need a pat on the back for it but nice one

 

[MickiQ]

I don't think I need much persuading she's a pretty awful person but assuming this story is true and not one of the made up ones, I reckon she has embellished it somewhat. I can't imagine the paramedics idly standing by while she plucks the mask off a person's face to stick it on a pooch or the firemen allowing someone to go back into a burning building to rescue paintings.

 

[Orang Utan]

The only person on the panels who seemed to have the decency to react with any degree of horror was the Irish woman on the other team. Who is she? She looks familiar.

 

[Orang Utan]

I don't think I need much persuading she's a pretty awful person but assuming this story is true and not one of the made up ones, I reckon she has embellished it somewhat. I can't imagine the paramedics idly standing by while she plucks the mask off a person's face to stick it on a pooch or the firemen allowing someone to go back into a burning building to rescue paintings.

i think she said the firemen turned up after she sent the assistant in

 

[cupid_stunt]

She once told me I had “fabulous hair” so, you know, not all bad.

Edwina Currie kept touching my arm in a nightclub one night, doesn't stop her being a wrong un!

#NotJohnMajor

 

[moochedit]

I don't think I need much persuading she's a pretty awful person but assuming this story is true and not one of the made up ones, I reckon she has embellished it somewhat. I can't imagine the paramedics idly standing by while she plucks the mask off a person's face to stick it on a pooch or the firemen allowing someone to go back into a burning building to rescue paintings.

Hopefully the firefighters and the sacked assistant give interviews and tell their side of it.

 

[moochedit]

i think she said the firemen turned up after she sent the assistant in

Yes but then (after taking the mask off him) she sent him back in again.

 

[moochedit]

The only person on the panels who seemed to have the decency to react with any degree of horror was the Irish woman on the other team. Who is she? She looks familiar.

Yeah she didn't look happy.

 

[weltweit]

The only person on the panels who seemed to have the decency to react with any degree of horror was the Irish woman on the other team. Who is she? She looks familiar.

BBC iPlayer - Would I Lie to You? - Series 13: At Christmas

Joining Rob Brydon, Lee Mack and David Mitchell are Liz Bonnin, Stephen Merchant, Sharon Osbourne and Dr Ranj Singh.

 

[Orang Utan]

The only person on the panels who seemed to have the decency to react with any degree of horror was the Irish woman on the other team. Who is she? She looks familiar.

googled the show. Liz Bonnin - Autumnwatch presenter who used to present RI:SE on C4 ages ago.

 

[Mrs Miggins]

My guess is that something slightly different actually happened which resulted in the assistant telling them to go fuck themselves and she's embellished the story to make it look like something else.

Someone telling me to go into a burning building to rescue artwork would probably result in me telling them to go fuck themselves.

 

[Baronage-Phase]

Her old man (estranged (dead)) Don Arden was quite the prick too

Just been reading about him. Sounds like a delightful fellow.

Yep. Sharon Osbourne has spoken of the violence she grew up with....

My guess is that something slightly different actually happened which resulted in the assistant telling them to go fuck themselves and she's embellished the story to make it look like something else.

Someone telling me to go into a burning building to rescue artwork would probably result in me telling them to go fuck themselves.

I agree
I think her "true story" was very much embellished.

It'll be interesting to see if the sacked employee shows up and tells their story.