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Serious incident in/around KFC Brixton - man assaulted and later dies

erm, you could try getting used to it perhaps? I pass these guys at least twice a day (at all hours of day and night), am regularly in and out of the offlicence they hang about outside, and have never had any trouble whatsoever with any of them. The only 'intimidation' I've ever had was from some of their roughneck female hangers-on and once or twice from some kids hanging about who probably weren't even connected to the dealers, and got a bit stroppy when I declined to buy alcohol for them. I'm not trying to be all happy clappy "let's all get along" about these guys - we've not got to the meet & greet or name-asking stage or anything - but appearances can be deceptive. If you're not looking to buy drugs or cause fights the Acre Lane crew seem happy to ignore you and let you ignore them.
You wouldn't want 'em hanging about your doorstep though, would you?
 
No, editor, I would not want the Acre Lane lot right on my doorstep - although they're so close to it it's sort of a moot point. But (with respect) I wouldn't want a pub or club crowd on my doorstep either. Or a Starbucks. again, I'm NOT saying "there's no problem at all here" when someone got their head kicked in yesterday (in an incident where we don't know the background, btw). Just that having a big group of guys hanging about obviously selling drugs might LOOK like a major public order problem all the time, when actually the level of real violence/harassment they commit is pretty small.

Further than that, on 'how much drug dealing are you prepared to tolerate and where and at what hours of the day' - the issues are so complicated I think i've forgotten any opinions I might ever have had about it. You can't stamp out street dealing, for the reasons outlined above. It's very hard to design a policy which eliminates dealing of some drugs but not others. You can't stamp out dealing altogether in any location (even assuming you wanted to), for the reasons above. So how SHOULD the police or the community or whoever be policing this issue, as it applies to Brixton and the Acre Lane bus stops? not challenging you, just expressing the roots of my own confusion.
 
Why does so much violence seem to happen in takeaways or fast food places?

They're open late, so drunks with the munchies go there. And street dealers get their meals there. Plus the KFC and Macdonalds in Brixton are on corners and they have toilets where drugs can be stashed.
 
...and underpaid staff who don't get paid enough, or feel like their interests are looked after enough to intervene.
 
They're open late, so drunks with the munchies go there. And street dealers get their meals there. Plus the KFC and Macdonalds in Brixton are on corners and they have toilets where drugs can be stashed.
is that where they stash them? :hmm:
 
So how SHOULD the police or the community or whoever be policing this issue, as it applies to Brixton and the Acre Lane bus stops?

Good question. With no answers I can think of. Apart from legalising drugs. Which will never happen here. You could increase the arrest and conviction rate by throwing more money at the problem. (Which would also mean building more prisons.) But the problem wouldn't diminish because the flow of new dealers can't be stopped.
 
It's been known. That's why the police pressured KFC to have the electric lock/request system. But you still get officers in there searching for stashes under the sinks etc.
i'm gonna have a rummidge next week when i'm in town. thanks for the tip!
 
It's been known. That's why the police pressured KFC to have the electric lock/request system. But you still get officers in there searching for stashes under the sinks etc.

I thought that McDo's, at least, made its toilets available to the general public under the Community Toilets scheme, so anybody could go in there, whether for the purpose for which they were designed or to stash drugs!
 
I'm told by someone who knows the local crims that the assailant isn't a local dealer. He had an argument with 3 white guys inside KFC, went away and came back with a length of pipe. It's assumed he must be a yardie to be that violent in a public place. He left his prints on the KFC window.
 
I was in KFC at the time it all went off. It was weird....As the comotion happened all very quick. Three guys came in to KFC and looked like they stole the table cleaner and ran off when they went out side. Then i went to the door of KFC and saw the guy with this massive pole run towards the door. Every one in KFC ran towards the tables as they saw what was coming. The problem was the guy with the pole was disorientated as the door to KFC doesnt push open. He then ran off. The next thing the guy obviously got hit and was lieing on his back outside. Didnt feel very hungry after all this!
 
Prob unrelated but thought id stick it here.

40 mins ago on coldharbour Lane just passed the bridge, in the road outside Brixton Village and the Nuclear Dawn mural. There was a fight 3 on 1 black guys involving chains. The 1 was approached by the 3 and beaten unconscious. A sustained attack until he dropped, then they ran. The road is closed off, area is tapped up surrounding 1 or 2 -left- items.
 
Prob unrelated but thought id stick it here.

40 mins ago on coldharbour Lane just passed the bridge, in the road outside Brixton Village and the Nuclear Dawn mural. There was a fight 3 on 1 black guys involving chains. The 1 was approached by the 3 and beaten unconscious. A sustained attack until he dropped, then they ran. The road is closed off, area is tapped up surrounding 1 or 2 -left- items.
Fucking hell. What's the matter with these people?
 
Prob unrelated but thought id stick it here.

40 mins ago on coldharbour Lane just passed the bridge, in the road outside Brixton Village and the Nuclear Dawn mural. There was a fight 3 on 1 black guys involving chains. The 1 was approached by the 3 and beaten unconscious. A sustained attack until he dropped, then they ran. The road is closed off, area is tapped up surrounding 1 or 2 -left- items.


It was taped off when I went past at around 1.15.
 
It was taped off when I went past at around 1.15.

The person who told me was still looking a little shocked and it was their "40 mins ago" Maybe more shocked/stoned than i realized as that would make them a couple of hours out.
 
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