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Roger Waters self indulgent twat / not self indulgent twat

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In a battle between Gilmour and Waters I would back Gilmour 100 % everytime. Waters despite his amazing creatively (imo) appears to mean well but is totally confused by his own intense politics of which he doesn't realise in the slightest the total hypocrisy of the shit he spouts.

Gilmour on the other hand despite his massive wealth is still a proper old school lefty and a true man of the people who is happy to continue, support and love the country that made him while Waters fucked off to the states to become an intricate part of the mass capitalism he claims he stands against.

The big hypocrit twat
 
I don't care about Pink Floyd musically (or their battles) at all, bar a couple of their early singles that I quite enjoy.
 
I guess this is related to the symbolism in the Wall. Artistic statements on fascism and the use of fascist symbolism for that purpose are absolutely fine IMO. I think there's problems with The Wall and its egotistical exploration of fascism and its corresponding egotistical rejection of fascism and there are problems with Waters himself but I think banning this performance would set a terrible precedent.

Edit: That is unless he's planning to do that Star of David pig thing again in which case fuck him.
 
I only like the Syd Barrett period Pink Floyd and then only some tbh
Has Sas stolen your log in? :)

When I lived in Sandbanks in Poole, before it went total Dubai, there was a rumour locally that Syd lived in a house up the road from us with his mum.
 
I guess this is related to the symbolism in the Wall. Artistic statements on fascism and the use of fascist symbolism for that purpose are absolutely fine IMO. I think there's problems with The Wall and its egotistical exploration of fascism and its corresponding egotistical rejection of fascism and there are problems with Waters himself but I think banning this performance would set a terrible precedent.

Edit: That is unless he's planning to do that Star of David pig thing again in which case fuck him.
I think the pig is one issue but also what he's said in the meeja recently. Plus he's Putin biatch now as well now. There's no end of reasons to think he's a cock but antisemite thing seems to be down to his criticisms of Israel's not so good deeds on Palestine which, as discussed up thread, are actually hard to disagree with.

It's all good publicity for his shows though and will make his already expanded head requiring the same sort of stage props as the pig itself.
 
Has Sas stolen your log in? :)

When I lived in Sandbanks in Poole, before it went total Dubai, there was a rumour locally that Syd lived in a house up the road from us with his mum.

Jerseys Sas is an Elton John fan. I’m not a great fan of Syd either I’m afraid , didn’t mind two possibly three tracks off his first album but the rest was shite . Just liked a few bits and bobs of their psychedelic early stuff . Tbh Pink Floyd are amongst the last bands I’d choose for their politics .

Now , Girls Aloud and their demo of Kronstadt is a different matter .
 
Jerseys Sas is an Elton John fan. I’m not a great fan of Syd either I’m afraid , didn’t mind two possibly three tracks off his first album but the rest was shite . Just liked a few bits and bobs of their psychedelic early stuff . Tbh Pink Floyd are amongst the last bands I’d choose for their politics .

Now , Girls Aloud and their demo of Kronstadt is a different matter .
Let's not forget this nod to their music writing prowess either....

 
I’m listening to a vinyl bootleg of the Floyd’s Zabriskie Point outtakes and having a nice cup of tea. I love them to bits - apart from “The Final Cut” and those late 80s LPs. Not overly bothered about Waters and his politics but, if he keeps on like this, he’s going to taint his own musical legacy.
 
Mr Waters is very much winning friends and influencing people.

His concert in Berlin last night... your jaw will drop further with each image on the thread.


The one where he's dressed as an SS officer is right up there. I'm probably missing 'context' though. What a prick.

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This has been part of the show for years. He's performing songs from The Wall. I'm sure many of the people at that show would know what they are looking at, and why.
Yeh fair enough - not a great look now with the rest of the show. (ie I actually was missing 'context'.)
 
Loved Waters' 1987 song 'The Tide Is Turning'. i so wanted it to be true. Then everything got fucking worse. Probably not Rogers fault though. This vid brings tears..

 
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Displaying the names of victims of worldwide conflicts and injustices is also a long standing part of his shows. 100s of names, faces and quotes appear throughout the shows I've been to. All colours, creeds and demoninations. The Wall live includes a newer song and stark visual about the slaying of John Charles De Menezes. I doubt the Met Police appreciate him doing it live at Wembley Stadium on a Saturday night.
 
let's face it, if we stopped listening to music made by total cunts then we'd be fucking bored senseless listening to Cyndi Lauper albums on repeat.

If anyone can reveal the secret evil behind Stereolab, The Ex, Godspeed You! Black Emperor or the Minutemen then I'll agree with you. TBH as mentioned on another thread, I'm usually struck by the fact that the biggest arseholes tend to make shite music - post-Syd Barrett Pink Floyd being a good example.
 
With the amount of members Stereolab have had you can't pretend no one acted the twat. As for the minutemen, their biggest crime is nicking my last name for one of their records...making me forever linked to them when I search myself online.
 
Mo Tucker also used my name for a song, and I once told a girl it was because we had a fling in the 80s....me and Mo....lol
 
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