Roger Waters self indulgent twat / not self indulgent twat

[savoloysam]

In a battle between Gilmour and Waters I would back Gilmour 100 % everytime. Waters despite his amazing creatively (imo) appears to mean well but is totally confused by his own intense politics of which he doesn't realise in the slightest the total hypocrisy of the shit he spouts.

Gilmour on the other hand despite his massive wealth is still a proper old school lefty and a true man of the people who is happy to continue, support and love the country that made him while Waters fucked off to the states to become an intricate part of the mass capitalism he claims he stands against.

The big hypocrit twat

 

[Johnny Vodka]

I don't care about Pink Floyd musically (or their battles) at all, bar a couple of their early singles that I quite enjoy.

 

[friedaweed]

He'll be insufferable now

Roger Waters wins legal battle to gig in Frankfurt amid antisemitism row

Court rules in favour of former Pink Floyd frontman despite ‘tasteless’ use of Nazi-inspired symbolism

www.theguardian.com

Dianne Abbott for support act?

 

[Knotted]

I guess this is related to the symbolism in the Wall. Artistic statements on fascism and the use of fascist symbolism for that purpose are absolutely fine IMO. I think there's problems with The Wall and its egotistical exploration of fascism and its corresponding egotistical rejection of fascism and there are problems with Waters himself but I think banning this performance would set a terrible precedent.

Edit: That is unless he's planning to do that Star of David pig thing again in which case fuck him.

 

[savoloysam]

Dianne Abbott for support act?

Not with her maths. I doubt she could work out the complexities of a 4/4 beat.

 

[The39thStep]

I only like the Syd Barrett period Pink Floyd and then only some tbh

 

[friedaweed]

I only like the Syd Barrett period Pink Floyd and then only some tbh

Has Sas stolen your log in?

When I lived in Sandbanks in Poole, before it went total Dubai, there was a rumour locally that Syd lived in a house up the road from us with his mum.

 

[friedaweed]

I guess this is related to the symbolism in the Wall. Artistic statements on fascism and the use of fascist symbolism for that purpose are absolutely fine IMO. I think there's problems with The Wall and its egotistical exploration of fascism and its corresponding egotistical rejection of fascism and there are problems with Waters himself but I think banning this performance would set a terrible precedent.

Edit: That is unless he's planning to do that Star of David pig thing again in which case fuck him.

I think the pig is one issue but also what he's said in the meeja recently. Plus he's Putin biatch now as well now. There's no end of reasons to think he's a cock but antisemite thing seems to be down to his criticisms of Israel's not so good deeds on Palestine which, as discussed up thread, are actually hard to disagree with.

It's all good publicity for his shows though and will make his already expanded head requiring the same sort of stage props as the pig itself.

 

[The39thStep]

Has Sas stolen your log in?

When I lived in Sandbanks in Poole, before it went total Dubai, there was a rumour locally that Syd lived in a house up the road from us with his mum.

Jerseys Sas is an Elton John fan. I’m not a great fan of Syd either I’m afraid , didn’t mind two possibly three tracks off his first album but the rest was shite . Just liked a few bits and bobs of their psychedelic early stuff . Tbh Pink Floyd are amongst the last bands I’d choose for their politics .

Now , Girls Aloud and their demo of Kronstadt is a different matter .

 

[friedaweed]

Jerseys Sas is an Elton John fan. I’m not a great fan of Syd either I’m afraid , didn’t mind two possibly three tracks off his first album but the rest was shite . Just liked a few bits and bobs of their psychedelic early stuff . Tbh Pink Floyd are amongst the last bands I’d choose for their politics .

Now , Girls Aloud and their demo of Kronstadt is a different matter .

Let's not forget this nod to their music writing prowess either....

 

[kebabking]

Mr Waters is very much winning friends and influencing people.

His concert in Berlin last night... your jaw will drop further with each image on the thread.

 

[seeformiles]

I’m listening to a vinyl bootleg of the Floyd’s Zabriskie Point outtakes and having a nice cup of tea. I love them to bits - apart from “The Final Cut” and those late 80s LPs. Not overly bothered about Waters and his politics but, if he keeps on like this, he’s going to taint his own musical legacy.

 

[Sweet FA]

Mr Waters is very much winning friends and influencing people.

His concert in Berlin last night... your jaw will drop further with each image on the thread.

The one where he's dressed as an SS officer is right up there. I'm probably missing 'context' though. What a prick.

 

[Nanker Phelge]

This has been part of the show for years. He's performing songs from The Wall. I'm sure many of the people at that show would know what they are looking at, and why.

 

[Sweet FA]

This has been part of the show for years. He's performing songs from The Wall. I'm sure many of the people at that show would know what they are looking at, and why.

Yeh fair enough - not a great look now with the rest of the show. (ie I actually was missing 'context'.)

 

[redcogs]

Loved Waters' 1987 song 'The Tide Is Turning'. i so wanted it to be true. Then everything got fucking worse. Probably not Rogers fault though. This vid brings tears..

 

[hash tag]

Loved Waters' 1987 song 'The Tide Is Turning'. i so wanted it to be true. Then everything got fucking worse. Probably not Rogers fault though.

Kaos album isn't bad. Must go and listen to it again.

 

[ska invita]

Mr Waters is very much winning friends and influencing people.

His concert in Berlin last night... your jaw will drop further with each image on the thread.

i dont understand the problem?

 

[Nanker Phelge]

Displaying the names of victims of worldwide conflicts and injustices is also a long standing part of his shows. 100s of names, faces and quotes appear throughout the shows I've been to. All colours, creeds and demoninations. The Wall live includes a newer song and stark visual about the slaying of John Charles De Menezes. I doubt the Met Police appreciate him doing it live at Wembley Stadium on a Saturday night.

 

[pogofish]

Didn’t he come out in support of fox hunting at one point?

IIRC it was his stated reason when he sold his English estate and moved to Long Island a few years back.

 

[Nanker Phelge]

let's face it, if we stopped listening to music made by total cunts then we'd be fucking bored senseless listening to Cyndi Lauper albums on repeat.

 

[krtek a houby]

let's face it, if we stopped listening to music made by total cunts then we'd be fucking bored senseless listening to Cyndi Lauper albums time after time

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[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

I can't believe Urban collectively can't dig out something dodgy that Cyndi Lauper allegedly said in the 80s.

 

[klang]

I can't believe Urban collectively can't dig out something dodgy that Cyndi Lauper allegedly said in the 80s.

didn't she say at some point that her dream job was bailiff, but disappointingly pop chose her instead?

 

[Bus Honeygun]

let's face it, if we stopped listening to music made by total cunts then we'd be fucking bored senseless listening to Cyndi Lauper albums on repeat.

If anyone can reveal the secret evil behind Stereolab, The Ex, Godspeed You! Black Emperor or the Minutemen then I'll agree with you. TBH as mentioned on another thread, I'm usually struck by the fact that the biggest arseholes tend to make shite music - post-Syd Barrett Pink Floyd being a good example.

 

[klang]

Godspeed You! Black Emperor

once saw them at the Lexington and there was a very tall guy in front of me who later spilled his beer on my new converse. horrible band.

 

[Nanker Phelge]

With the amount of members Stereolab have had you can't pretend no one acted the twat. As for the minutemen, their biggest crime is nicking my last name for one of their records...making me forever linked to them when I search myself online.

 

[Nanker Phelge]

Mo Tucker also used my name for a song, and I once told a girl it was because we had a fling in the 80s....me and Mo....lol

 

[Bus Honeygun]

With the amount of members Stereolab have had you can't pretend no one acted the twat.

Laetitia Sadier has said that the band weren't exactly a democracy, but I think we'll have to wait a long time for a 'Tim Gane Ate My Hamster!!' headline.

 

[Johnny Vodka]

let's face it, if we stopped listening to music made by total cunts then we'd be fucking bored senseless listening to Cyndi Lauper albums on repeat.

Didn't Cyndi do a Wall song with Rodge?