SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Fuck knows what a copper would have to do to get a murder conviction then.
RIP Dalian Atkinson
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Athos
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Because it's a serious offence committed in connection with his duty, the force can apply for a certificate from the Home Secretary; if she decides that his conduct is liable to lead to a serious loss of confidence in the police, he can be stripped of his pension (or at least the 65% of contributions made by the force). Hard to see how a criminal homicide whilst on duty wouldn't undermine public confidence, but nothing Priti Patel does would surprise me!
GarveyLives
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Following the jury’s verdict, Dalian’s family made the following statement: “Dalian Atkinson is much missed by all his family and friends and the footballing communities of the clubs he played for in his long and successful career as a professional footballer, especially Ipswich Town, Sheffield Wednesday and Aston Villa.
The past five years have been an ordeal for Dalian’s family.
We knew years ago about the terrible injuries inflicted by PC Monk on Dalian, but have been unable to talk about them due to the criminal process. We are hugely relieved that the whole country now knows the truth about how Dalian died.
While it has been hard for us not to be able to talk about the details of Dalian’s death, it has been even harder to sit through this trial and to hear PC Monk try to justify the force he used.
On the night he died, Dalian was vulnerable and unwell and needed medical attention. He instead received violence, and died with PC Monk’s boot lace prints bruised onto his forehead.
We have been sickened to hear PC Monk try to minimise the force he used on Dalian and exaggerate the threat he posed. Fortunately, the jury has seen through the lies and the pretence. We would like to thank the jury members for all their hard work and attention.
The fact that this case has taken nearly five years to get to trial is completely unacceptable, especially when you consider that PC Monk’s identity was known to the prosecuting authorities from Day One.
By contrast, the murderer of George Floyd was convicted less than a year after his death. Our system for prosecuting police officers must work better in future to get rid of these unjustifiable delays. No more excuses – no more delays.
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Convicted killer PC Benjamin Monk, who will be sentenced in due course.
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Starry Wisdom
Following the jury’s verdict, Dalian’s family made the following statement: “Dalian Atkinson is much missed by all his family and friends and the footballing communities of the clubs he played for in his long and successful career as a professional footballer, especially Ipswich Town, Sheffield Wednesday and Aston Villa.
The past five years have been an ordeal for Dalian’s family.
We knew years ago about the terrible injuries inflicted by PC Monk on Dalian, but have been unable to talk about them due to the criminal process. We are hugely relieved that the whole country now knows the truth about how Dalian died.
While it has been hard for us not to be able to talk about the details of Dalian’s death, it has been even harder to sit through this trial and to hear PC Monk try to justify the force he used.
On the night he died, Dalian was vulnerable and unwell and needed medical attention. He instead received violence, and died with PC Monk’s boot lace prints bruised onto his forehead.
We have been sickened to hear PC Monk try to minimise the force he used on Dalian and exaggerate the threat he posed. Fortunately, the jury has seen through the lies and the pretence. We would like to thank the jury members for all their hard work and attention.
The fact that this case has taken nearly five years to get to trial is completely unacceptable, especially when you consider that PC Monk’s identity was known to the prosecuting authorities from Day One.
By contrast, the murderer of George Floyd was convicted less than a year after his death. Our system for prosecuting police officers must work better in future to get rid of these unjustifiable delays. No more excuses – no more delays.
(Source: as stated in image)
Convicted killer PC Benjamin Monk, who will be sentenced in due course.
I hope he has that sugar and boiling water thing they showed on 'time' done to him on a regular basis
Murder requires intent to kill. Obviously what the cop did was horrific but intent to kill is hard to prove. He definitely intended to hurt him badly but presumably the jury had reasonable doubt as to intent to kill.
Eta I'm not expressing an opinion on the verdict here, just saying what the law is as I understand it.
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
Kicking the fuck out someone's head as they lay unconscious? Its action that's carries a very high probability of causing death. It's up there with stabbing someone really.
If it was anyone other than a cop it would be nailed on murder.
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
it amazing it was manslaugter in the way this sort of cases normally go,
also with a barrister
you forget police court experience and his now ex missus as back up saying how terrifying Dalian was
not expected charges against the other pc even with repeated baton strikes whilst he was getting kicked in the forehead
also with a barrister
you forget police court experience and his now ex missus as back up saying how terrifying Dalian was
not expected charges against the other pc even with repeated baton strikes whilst he was getting kicked in the forehead
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I agree, fwiw.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Murder doesn’t need intent to kill, just to cause serious harm, (GBH).
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Yes and the victim's vulnerability is not a defence. So all the stuff about Atkinson's medical conditions should not have been raised at all. Although of course he was already on the brink of death at the time his encounter with the police but also a terrifying superhuman killing machine who, in defiance of the known laws of physics, was impervious to repeated jolts of high-voltage electricity.
ElizabethofYork
Old Crone
Athos
Well-Known Member
It's hard to see how you could kick an already unconscious man in the head repeatedly without the intent to cause him serious harm. But I guess that's part of the problem of leaving the jury the alternative verdict of manslaughter; the temptation is to compromise on that.
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
I'd not seen this before:
Dalian Atkinson was 'hounded by police' claims grieving girlfriend
Karen Wright angrily spoke out after the officer who Tasered the 48-year-old former striker was convicted of manslaughter
www.birminghammail.co.uk
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
I'd not seen this before:
Dalian Atkinson was 'hounded by police' claims grieving girlfriend
Karen Wright angrily spoke out after the officer who Tasered the 48-year-old former striker was convicted of manslaughterwww.birminghammail.co.uk
Karen disclosed Atkinson successfully complained to the police watchdog over his treatment in a roadside stop three years before his death and slammed the callous conduct of officers.
The former Villa ace's 2013 police complaint related to officers arresting him after he failed to give his name when he was stopped in Shrewsbury.
Karen said: “He was just a black man in a Mercedes and he was taken to the police station. He was poorly treated – he felt he had done nothing wrong and he thought it was excessive. He lived with that through his entire life.”
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
fuck sakes
Retired footballer Dalian Atkinson died after being tasered by police
The ex-Aston Villa striker, 48, was restrained by police officers at his father's house in Telford, Shropshire, on August 15, 2016.
Oliver Pryce
Mr Pryce, 30, from Wolverhampton, a former British karate international who suffered from psychiatric problems, was arrested after jumping in front of an ambulance on July 24, 1990. He died from asphyxiation in the back of a police van in Middlesborough.
In November 1991, an inquest recorded a verdict of unlawful killing. No officer faced disciplinary charges.
Shawn Browne
Shawn Browne, 27, died after his vehicle crashed into a tree following a 45-second police chase.
His Peugeot then clipped the kerb on a left-hand bend, flipped over and crashed into a tree, killing him on April 1, 2015.
Clinton McCurbin
Clinton McCurbin died on February 20, 1987, while being arrested for alleged shoplifting and use of a stolen credit card, in Wolverhampton, West Midlands.
He died of asphyxia only minutes after two officers were called to the shop.
Kishni Mahay
Kishni Mahay, aged 64, was killed when she was hit by a police car while she was on a pedestrian crossing on the March, 14 1989. Kishni was hit on the Cannock Road in Wolverhampton and thrown more than 30 yards.
The death was ruled accidental. An investigation by police said she had run out into the road.
Kingsley Burrell
Kingsley Burrell, 29, died from cardiac arrest after being arrested following a disturbance in Birmingham on March 31, 2011.
He called the police after he tried to talk to a group of young people who were intimidating him and his 5-year-old son.
It is reported that when police arrived, they claimed he was acting paranoid and they detained him under the Mental Health Act.
Kingsley’s family believe he was beaten en route to the hospital.
An inquest in 2015 found restraint had been a factor in his death.
Ian Gordon
On August 12, 1991 the 24-year-old from Wolverhampton was a psychiatric patient who was shot dead by Telford police.
It was ruled as a lawful killing.
Trevor Smith
Trevor Smith was killed with one single gunshot by police officers at his flat in Birmingham on March 15, 2019. West Midlands Police later revealed that following the shooting a non-police issued firearm was recovered from the property.
Adrian McDonald
The 34-year-old was bitten by a police dog and tasered after reports of an intruder on December 22, 2014.
Whilst in the police van Adrian complained of breathing difficulties and kept shouting "I can’t breathe". He later died in hospital.
Darren Cumberbatch
Police were called to McIntyre House in Nuneaton in regards to concerns around his behaviour on July 10, 2017.
Darren had been punched 15 times, struck with batons and sprayed with an incapacity substance while being arrested.
Nine days after the arrest, he died of multiple organ failure in hospital.
An inquest found police used "excessive force".
Sean Fitzgerald
Armed officers arrived at an address to make an arrest which resulted in Fitzgerald - who was unarmed - being shot dead ion January 4, 2019.
Witnesses reported hearing four or five gunshots at the property and he was pronounced dead at the scene. Two other men were arrested at the scene on suspicion of cultivating cannabis.
Mikey Powell
The 38-year-old father of three died of asphyxiation shortly after being arrested by police in Birmingham. He died on September 7, 2003.
He had been arrested outside his mother’s house in the Lozells area of the city.
It has been alleged that officers hit Mikey with a police car then, beat him with a baton, CS gassed him and restrained him. He was then driven to a police station instead of given medical care.
Ten officers were charged with criminal offences after Mikey's death, but all were cleared of wrongdoing in 2006.
Names of people who have died in police custody in the Midlands
Dalian AtkinsonRetired footballer Dalian Atkinson died after being tasered by police
The ex-Aston Villa striker, 48, was restrained by police officers at his father's house in Telford, Shropshire, on August 15, 2016.
Oliver Pryce
Mr Pryce, 30, from Wolverhampton, a former British karate international who suffered from psychiatric problems, was arrested after jumping in front of an ambulance on July 24, 1990. He died from asphyxiation in the back of a police van in Middlesborough.
In November 1991, an inquest recorded a verdict of unlawful killing. No officer faced disciplinary charges.
Shawn Browne
Shawn Browne, 27, died after his vehicle crashed into a tree following a 45-second police chase.
His Peugeot then clipped the kerb on a left-hand bend, flipped over and crashed into a tree, killing him on April 1, 2015.
Clinton McCurbin
Clinton McCurbin died on February 20, 1987, while being arrested for alleged shoplifting and use of a stolen credit card, in Wolverhampton, West Midlands.
He died of asphyxia only minutes after two officers were called to the shop.
Kishni Mahay
Kishni Mahay, aged 64, was killed when she was hit by a police car while she was on a pedestrian crossing on the March, 14 1989. Kishni was hit on the Cannock Road in Wolverhampton and thrown more than 30 yards.
The death was ruled accidental. An investigation by police said she had run out into the road.
Kingsley Burrell
Kingsley Burrell, 29, died from cardiac arrest after being arrested following a disturbance in Birmingham on March 31, 2011.
He called the police after he tried to talk to a group of young people who were intimidating him and his 5-year-old son.
It is reported that when police arrived, they claimed he was acting paranoid and they detained him under the Mental Health Act.
Kingsley’s family believe he was beaten en route to the hospital.
An inquest in 2015 found restraint had been a factor in his death.
Ian Gordon
On August 12, 1991 the 24-year-old from Wolverhampton was a psychiatric patient who was shot dead by Telford police.
It was ruled as a lawful killing.
Trevor Smith
Trevor Smith was killed with one single gunshot by police officers at his flat in Birmingham on March 15, 2019. West Midlands Police later revealed that following the shooting a non-police issued firearm was recovered from the property.
Adrian McDonald
The 34-year-old was bitten by a police dog and tasered after reports of an intruder on December 22, 2014.
Whilst in the police van Adrian complained of breathing difficulties and kept shouting "I can’t breathe". He later died in hospital.
Darren Cumberbatch
Police were called to McIntyre House in Nuneaton in regards to concerns around his behaviour on July 10, 2017.
Darren had been punched 15 times, struck with batons and sprayed with an incapacity substance while being arrested.
Nine days after the arrest, he died of multiple organ failure in hospital.
An inquest found police used "excessive force".
Sean Fitzgerald
Armed officers arrived at an address to make an arrest which resulted in Fitzgerald - who was unarmed - being shot dead ion January 4, 2019.
Witnesses reported hearing four or five gunshots at the property and he was pronounced dead at the scene. Two other men were arrested at the scene on suspicion of cultivating cannabis.
Mikey Powell
The 38-year-old father of three died of asphyxiation shortly after being arrested by police in Birmingham. He died on September 7, 2003.
He had been arrested outside his mother’s house in the Lozells area of the city.
It has been alleged that officers hit Mikey with a police car then, beat him with a baton, CS gassed him and restrained him. He was then driven to a police station instead of given medical care.
Ten officers were charged with criminal offences after Mikey's death, but all were cleared of wrongdoing in 2006.
Dalian Atkinson killing: officer was kept on despite gross misconduct
"The police officer convicted of the manslaughter of Dalian Atkinson had been previously found by a police disciplinary hearing to have committed gross misconduct but was allowed to remain an officer and given a stun gun, it has been revealed."
"The police officer convicted of the manslaughter of Dalian Atkinson had been previously found by a police disciplinary hearing to have committed gross misconduct but was allowed to remain an officer and given a stun gun, it has been revealed."
Argonia
Happy go licky
Thanks for this list. And yet they still fail to arrest the tyrants and war criminals. And spend all their time kettling democracy activists. I remember contacting the film director Ken Faro of "Injustice" for an interview when I worked at TV Tokyo in London but it didn't happen in the end.
Argonia
Happy go licky
Time for a thorough Truth and Reconciliation Commission to sort out this mess.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
This is an odd one, he failed to disclose two cautions when he applied for the piggery, one was drunkenness which is fine, as is it seems violence, but his other caution was for theft from his employers (Woolies), normally offences involving dishonesty are taboo for the 5-0.
Steel Icarus
we move
8 years.
Dalian Atkinson: PC Benjamin Monk jailed for ex-footballer's death
He is the first to be convicted of manslaughter as a result of police contact in more than 30 years.
www.bbc.co.uk
Argonia
Happy go licky
Not as long as Chauvin.8 years.
Dalian Atkinson: PC Benjamin Monk jailed for ex-footballer's death
He is the first to be convicted of manslaughter as a result of police contact in more than 30 years.www.bbc.co.uk
Athos
Well-Known Member
8 years.
Dalian Atkinson: PC Benjamin Monk jailed for ex-footballer's death
He is the first to be convicted of manslaughter as a result of police contact in more than 30 years.www.bbc.co.uk
Can't say I'm pleased to be right about that, but at least he's got to serve two thirds.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
I look forward to hearing news of his prison career
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Is anyone running a book on who will last longer?
Athos
Well-Known Member
Might have to go on the nonce wing.
Argonia
Happy go licky
I am sure he and Sir James Saville will get on like a house on fire over the table tennis set.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
This seems to be code for 'i don't expect him to survive his term of imprisonment'
Not as long as quite a lot of black men who did not commit any act of violence at all.
