Prometheus SPOILER thread

[Ranbay]

The extras are good, some great deleted stuff alternative ending and other stuff

 

[Ranbay]

just burning the blu ray.... shhhh

 

[Badgers]

The extras are good, some great deleted stuff alternative ending and other stuff

Wicked

Looking forward to the directors cut

 

[Reno]

Wicked

Looking forward to the directors cut

A directors cut doesn't seem to be happening with this release. Only separate extra scenes. They my well release a directors cut later on, as Ridley Scott has been mentioning it.

 

[Badgers]

A directors cut doesn't seem to be happening with this release. Only separate extra scenes. They my well release a directors cut later on, as Ridley Scott has been mentioning it.

About 4 hours would do it

 

[Orang Utan]

About 4 hours would do it

And a PowerPoint demonstration filling in the many holes

 

[snadge]

Stuff like this just annoys me, I can see why people would go and see it more than once. (my bolding)

What was David's motivation for "infecting" Holloway with black goop?
Damon Lindelof: I'd say that the short answer is: That's his programming. In the scene preceding him doing that, he is talking to Weyland (although we don't know it at the time) and he's telling Weyland that this is a bust. That they haven't found anything on this mission other than the stuff in the vials. And Weyland presumably says to him, "Well, what's in the vials?" And David would say, "I'm not entirely sure, we'll have to run some experiments." And Weyland would say, "What would happen if you put it in inside a person?" And David would say, "I don't know, I'll go find out." He doesn't know that he's poisoning Holloway, he asks Holloway, "What would you be willing to do to get the answers to your questions?" Holloway says, "Anything and everything." And that basically overrides whatever ethical programming David is mandated by, [allowing him] to spike his drink.

If we don't know that - how are we supposed to figure it out?

It was pretty obvious to me, David has intellect but a childs fascination, tempered by the ethos of serving, as he demonstrated by almost licking Weylands feet, as shown at the end of the film where , with Weyland dead and the only option left to serve was to Shaw, he did and he will be a good Puppy dog to the end.

 

[SpookyFrank]

A directors cut doesn't seem to be happening with this release. Only separate extra scenes. They my well release a directors cut later on, as Ridley Scott has been mentioning it.

Only a completely different script could save that film IMO. They somehow managed to cram in loads of blatant exposition and still leve gaping holes in the plot, and on top of that almost every line of dialogue was painfully contrived and shit. The few good lines were mostly ruined by Idris Elba and Noomi Rapace's woeful accents. Michael Fassbender had a pretty stupid accent as well, but got away with it because he was playing a robot.

 

[Reno]

Yeah, right, whatever...

 

[Badgers]

PCC doing the 5 films soon

 

[Reno]

The Press Complaints Commission ?

 

[Orang Utan]

prince charles cinema, i presume

 

[Badgers]

prince charles cinema, i presume

Sorry ^ this

 

[Reno]

I did them all recently IML (in my lounge)

 

[Badgers]

I did them all recently IML (in my lounge)

 

[Lord Camomile]

PCC doing the 5 films soon

What's the betting the cinema is noticeably less populated after the third film of the evening...?

 

[Reno]

..and then another drop off after the fourth. Alien 3 has its fair share of fans by now. One advantage of watching the Blu-rays at home was that I watched the alternative cut of Alien 3, which is a better film than what came out originally. Stuff that didn't really make much sense then, makes sense now.

I still don't think that there is a substantial fanbase for Resurrection, though there are always a few weirdos.

 

[emanymton]

Weirdos like me. Well I am not a fan, but I maintain it is a perfectly enjoyable film if you view it for what it is. A fun sci fi romp about space pirates.

 

[Reno]

Weirdos like me. Well I am not a fan, but I maintain it is a perfectly enjoyable film if you view it for what it is. A fun sci fi romp about space pirates.

Compared to some of the crap that makes it into cinemas now, it's still reasonable watchable. I just hope it's not your favourite of the lot.

 

[emanymton]

Of course not, the first one is the best one. Everyone knows that.

 

[tendril]

Why does the liquid the the engineer drinks in the initial scene have to be the same liquid that oozes from the canisters? I've just watched it again and it made more sense the second time. The initial liquid could have been what the engineers used to insert their genetic code into the earth's ecosystem and the black goo could have been some sort of weapon based on similar gene manipulation technology.

In the first instance it breaks up the engineer's dna, in the second it alters it in situ. I'm thinking that the weapon is multi generation, so that the first direct infection gives one result and subsequent infections from this first generation give a different result. That would explain why the big worms in the ship then attack the two left behind scientists looks different (more wormy as it came from worm dna, but I am just making a leap of faith of what I think the film implied, but I think that maybe the worms reproduced in a style that was of their nature, but producing a hybrid offspring) to the resultant offspring of the human mating process when Charlie gets directly infected by David. The first generation then tries to infect another host which turns into the adult alien. In the first movie (director's cut and in the book from the screenplay) I inferred that the adult alien can also infect a host to produce a first gen and that this first gen could, if needed, turn it's host into an egg sack to keep it alive but in a dormant state until a new host for the second gen comes along (hence all the eggs with facehuggers in the hold of the ship in the original film). In Prometheus, Shaw surgically removes the embryo from her, but I see no reason why the lifecycle of the organism couldn't have transformed her into an egg given time.

All speculation, I know, but I could imagine a way that it would work that fits with what was shown and may make some sort of biological sense.

 

[Tankus]

Just seen the blue ray with the alternate and cut scenes which makes the film flow better.... the theatrical release version was just plain wrong......! and it detracted from the story.....!

 

[Reno]

Just seen the blue ray with the alternate and cut scenes which makes the film flow better.... the theatrical release version was just plain wrong......! and it detracted from the story.....!

There is no alternate cut on the Blu-ray, it's the same version that was shown in theatres.

 

[DexterTCN]

The TV advert says different start and ending on the blu-ray

 

[Reno]

The TV advert says different start and ending on the blu-ray

I think they refer to the deleted and alternate scenes included in the extras. Ridley Scott was offered to produce a directors cut for the DVD/Blu-ray, considered it and then decided against it as he considered the theatrical cut his directors cut. That doesn't mean that at some point in the future there won't be an alternative cut as all the Alien films received one, but it's not on this release.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/...ott-turned-down-prometheus-directors-cut.html

 

[Kanda]

There is no alternate cut on the Blu-ray, it's the same version that was shown in theatres.

He didn't say that. He meant alternate scenes and cut scenes I think... Not alternative cut..

 

[Tankus]

Look in the extras...... the cut and deleted scenes make the characters more understandable and goes some way in evening out some of the more disjointed parts ( Wayland\daughter.....engineer \Micheal.....engineer \Shaw )...... the film is the same however....

 

[Reno]

He didn't say that. He meant alternate scenes and cut scenes I think... Not alternative cut..

OK, I just don't understand how the film can "flow better" when you have to piece it together from deleted scenes in your head. ?

 

[bouncer_the_dog]

Ridley seems to be going the way of Lucas

 

[Reno]

Ridley seems to be going the way of Lucas

How is he going the way of Lucas when he decided AGAINST doing a directors cut ?

BTW. this is such a clicheed "forum knee-jerk reaction" thing to say when it comes to director's cuts. Any director's cut Scott has done so far has been an improvement (Blade Runner, Kingdom of Heaven) or at least an interresting alternate (Alien) and he has always offered the original versions as well rather than erasing them, like Lucas does and which appears to be the main bone of contention when it comes to his meddling with his films.