Prof Stephen Hawking: thinking machines pose a threat to our very existence
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No, it's because I'm arguing from a position of how stuff works, and you're getting off on some sci fi whataboutery.
weltweit
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I assume you would not disagree that computers, networks, devices and power sources more intelligent cars etc all developing at a quite fast rate at this time. When I was born there was not even black and white TV, now, just 50 years later we have smart phones, the Internet and cars that park themselves.
So I assume you would not dispute that there is development, the question I have for you is where in the next 50 years, will it lead?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
what, you're 80 years old?
It's a headline. Again, has he written a paper on this? And clever people often come out with stupid stuff. They are academics but don't know how to unblock a toilet.
weltweit
Well-Known Member
What ? .. when were B/W TVs invented then - Ok rephrase, WE didn't have a black and white TV!what, you're 80 years old?
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
because even then you feared the Machines
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
The chances of anything coming from Mars...
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
strangely there are also people who know how to unblock a toilet but aren't oxbridge profs
Most of them, in fact.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
you're killing the buzz, man.
I've fucked the thread. I'm gonna go now so you can rebuild it.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
littlebabyjesus no durruti
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
what glue do you favour for sniffing?
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
No, I'm extrapolating from current knowledge and capabilities. Firstly, there is no inherent law of nature known to us that precludes the existence of intelligent machines. Indeed, the fact that machine learning is possible, even the basic and specialised stuff we have today, would seem to strongly indicate that (barring some catastrophe that destroys or significantly disrupts technological civilisation) the development of intelligent machines is a question of when, not if. This naturally leads to questions of whether such intelligent machines will always remain fully under human control. I will admit that there are a lot of unknown factors and variables in such questions, but what isn't in question is the existence and utility of networks and the ability of software to be copied, and the natural facility that any AIs would have in being able to take advantage of such things, being software entities.
I can appreciate not wanting to get carried away by hype, and I accept that the issue of cybernetic revolt is nowhere near as pressing as global warming and the inherent contradictions of a global capitalist system, which will be present with or without intelligent machines. But I think you go too far in dismissing the entire discussion as daft, and I think it also goes against what I get as a popular opinion around here, that issues should not be left up to the "tyranny of experts". Us laymen might not be fully aware of the intricacies of the issues posed, but without discussion how can we ever hope to get at least a good grasp of the basics, attained through our own efforts rather than being spoon-fed to us?
Evo stick was the one of choice iirc. Never had glue myself.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
Always a lighter gas man eh? luxury etc
Not for long though. Weird stuff.
Casually Red
tomorrow belongs to me
Tippex thinner onto school jumper cuff ,inhaled mid class ...totally fucking out of it . All day everyday for the dare , until some kid died so I stopped . But it was a fucking laugh some teacher asking me a question just after the big inhale . Back in the days when they still had some authority , and canes .
" square root of pye plus Pythagoras ball bag minus x squared ..whatever .."
" teehee..the monkeys..they're really funny "
weltweit
Well-Known Member
The evidence mounts ever upwards:
Robot kills man at Volkswagen plant in Germany
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/d18c...nia-legislation-responds-cheerleader-lawsuits
Robot kills man at Volkswagen plant in Germany
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/d18c...nia-legislation-responds-cheerleader-lawsuits
Favelado
J'adore South Shore
I found this enlightening, terrifying and convincing. A post in which the writer says that AI will most likely lead to human immortality or extinction and not much chance of anything in-between. Well worth reading
http://waitbutwhy.com/2015/01/artificial-intelligence-revolution-2.html
http://waitbutwhy.com/2015/01/artificial-intelligence-revolution-2.html
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