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Isn't Bone part of 'the entire left'?
That really doesn't matter whether he is or isn't - perhaps I should have said "This type of thing is more interesting than the rest of the entire left and anarchists who do nothing" but the point is still a valid one. Like other points I make & I always wait for the irrelevant the nitpickers to swarm around.

Cantona was right, 'when seagulls follow the trawler, its because they expect sardines to be thrown into the sea':)
 
Causing a big stink, a veritable research goldmine on consciousness, plus full of class warfare. This type of thing is more interesting than the entire left and anarchists who do nothing, at least Bone can sense the issue here. Its huge, and the 'aparteid' to quote the Prime Minister of the education system should be of key interest to anybody remotely progressive and a motivator for many.

Of course, with all these things, the idle left and anarchists scoff and do nothing - to turn cases into issues, issues into causes and causes into a movement. That is the real elephant in the room, its very sad but they are the facts;)
i'm sure many other people posting here share my astonishment at the amount of activity you're up to in durham.
 
it wd be fantastic if someone could start one. get people to send their old stuff, or copies at least, and collate it all. perhaps then someone cd start the slow process of digitising. the marx memorial library is something that anarchists/AFA etc can only aspire to at the moment.
while the notion of digitisation is attractive, it's by no means going to ensure the preservation of material. the paper much cw prop is printed on will last for quite some time if kept in good conditions. scanning stuff presumes that the computer / server website holding the material will always be there and that the filetypes now used will still be about in 5, 10, 15 years. i'm sure we all recall the surprise there was when blue peter dug up one of their time capsules from the 1980s, containing some early discs similar to CDs, and nothing could be found to read them. the quality of scanning as well as the medium on which digitised material is stored will also have an impact: scanning something at 300dpi may suit now, but down the road later users may think 600 would have been better. yes, it would be good to digitise the cw material, but it will be a long and potentially costly process. looking at the basic mechanics of it, finding a scanner large enough to scan anything bigger than A3 will be a problem. so some of it might have to be photographed, and that's a whole new can of worms. in addition, part of the reason for digitising archives is to get additional value from them, through xml coding. there's not much point having a load of jpg's of old class wars when you could have a much more sexy and more useful searchable file.

if it's going to be done it might as well be done properly, but it will be both time consuming and - as i say - potentially expensive.
 
so perhaps a repository where people cd donate knowing it will be kept for posterity and those wanting to research cd access them along with other things that may end up there? where tho?
 
i'm sure many other people posting here share my astonishment at the amount of activity you're up to in durham.
We do OK up here Picky Pickman - plenty on. Thanks for asking. One example is the Manchester TUC event we went to & got ourselves noticed:) Londoners can't escape London as you well know.
 
i am pleased to hear you have been on a demonstration.
You have not got a clue what we are doing in the North East - you do not know what we've achieved from nothing. You in particular would be completely unable to function politically outside of the safe comfort zone which is London, to an area without the infrastructure (such as Larc) or the larger numbers of radicals and we would see. This applies to most of the ultra left and 'anarchists' too btw, stick you in towns such as Clitheroe, Alston and so on, it would be cruel to watch you flail around.
 
You have not got a clue what we are doing in the North East - you do not know what we've achieved from nothing. You in particular would be completely unable to function politically outside of the safe comfort zone which is London, to an area without the infrastructure (such as Larc) or the larger numbers of radicals and we would see. This applies to most of the ultra left and 'anarchists' too btw, stick you in towns such as Clitheroe, Alston and so on, it would be cruel to watch you flail around.
i don't know what you've achieved from nothing because you are rather reticent on the subject. if you've done so much, why don't you blow your own trumpet? this demonstration you mentioned above was in, er, the north west - what have you done in the north east recently? i wouldn't want to operate politically outside london, not because of it being a comfort zone - most parts of london, incidentally, have fuck all infrastructure like larc or freedom - nor because i am scared of it, but because i don't believe in parachuting into an area like trots do. finally, i remember your praise for antifa in the past - have you given anything to support the prisoners?
 
i don't know what you've achieved from nothing because you are rather reticent on the subject. if you've done so much, why don't you blow your own trumpet? this demonstration you mentioned above was in, er, the north west - what have you done in the north east recently? i wouldn't want to operate politically outside london, not because of it being a comfort zone - most parts of london, incidentally, have fuck all infrastructure like larc or freedom - nor because i am scared of it, but because i don't believe in parachuting into an area like trots do. finally, i remember your praise for antifa in the past - have you given anything to support the prisoners?

My point is that you couldn't move outside of London, you couldn't live/ operate politically outside the bubble that is London.

Most people remember live in conditions that 'are not London'. That's the substantive point, one of capability.

That's a rather specific request and I am wondering just why you are asking, its looks like a loaded point to me. I certainly would not have asked such a politically limited and routine question, it seems strange. As it goes, and I'm reticent to say this, as I did not aim to 'go public' with this; is that all prisoners were sent cards signed by several of our group and I, one had a poster in it, another a book, all were sent 4 stamps, the letters were all sent recorded delivery, I sourced the cards, I got the stamps etc. As it goes, you end up making me look rather good:)
 
My point is that you couldn't move outside of London, you couldn't live/ operate politically outside the bubble that is London.

Most people remember live in conditions that 'are not London'. That's the substantive point, one of capability.
so fucking what? i live in london. i have never intended to move out of london to somewhere else in the country. you're creating a rather shit straw man, even for you

That's a rather specific request and I am wondering just why you are asking,
because i wondered
its looks like a loaded point to me. I certainly would not have asked such a politically limited and routine question, it seems strange. As it goes, and I'm reticent to say this, as I did not aim to 'go public' with this; is that all prisoners were sent cards signed by several of our group and I, one had a poster in it, another a book, all were sent 4 stamps, the letters were all sent recorded delivery, I sourced the cards, I got the stamps etc. As it goes, you end up making me look rather good:)
good for you.

now, what have you done in the north east?
 
so fucking what? i live in london. i have never intended to move out of london to somewhere else in the country. you're creating a rather shit straw man, even for you

because i wondered
good for you.

now, what have you done in the north east?

Miss the point Pickman, side step etc Well done, not.

(and you'll be waiting a long time for more cooperation from me btw so don't even bovver)
 
Can we get back to the archive discussion. Surely that is less difficult to do nowadays. Divide out the scanning, categorising, uploading and set up mirror sites. Job done.
 
I would love to be able to read old Class War papers... pure nostalgia. I hesitate to mention this but to complete my trip down memory lane I would also like to see the back issues of Green Anarchist (remember them?).
 
I would love to be able to read old Class War papers... pure nostalgia. I hesitate to mention this but to complete my trip down memory lane I would also like to see the back issues of Green Anarchist (remember them?).

Attacked the print workers for working for 'The Sun' in one edition that I didn't pay for and never bothered to look at again.
 
Attacked the print workers for working for 'The Sun' in one edition that I didn't pay for and never bothered to look at again.
They were an odd bunch to say the least... that is why I'd like to read some of that stuff again, get my head round some of the shit I was trying to assimilate in my late teens... One of my regrets is not keeping all the subversive literature I collected over those years (and my back issues of 2000AD).
 
U clearly missed it- here it is again for the intellectually challenged - "the substantive point,[is] one of capability" of living outside of London and having a politics that could survive in a rural small town.
if you can do it, it can't be all that hard - assuming that your silence on what you're up to masks great things.
 
They were an odd bunch to say the least... that is why I'd like to read some of that stuff again, get my head round some of the shit I was trying to assimilate in my late teens... One of my regrets is not keeping all the subversive literature I collected over those years (and my back issues of 2000AD).

I was introduced to the editor, with his minions, eating quiche and drinking Chardonnay, in a marquee set-up at Glastonbury festival, mid 80's, when I complained about the said article on the print workers to someone on their stall there, so yes I can confirm they were indeed an odd bunch and very middle-class. They didn't offer an oik like me any quiche, nor Chardonnay. :D
 
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