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I think it's quite a struggle for small businesses to stay open seven days a week. That equates to no (family) life. At the q and a P Castaing mentioned they'd withheld a licence because the (female) business applicant had a young family. Personally I don't think that's ok.
I was at that meeting and don't remember hearing anything like that. Pop wouldn't have responsibility for issuing licences so is it possible you misunderstood?
 
I think it's quite a struggle for small businesses to stay open seven days a week. That equates to no (family) life. At the q and a P Castaing mentioned they'd withheld a licence because the (female) business applicant had a young family. Personally I don't think that's ok.

I think he said more along the lines of she chose not to take a unit because she couldnt commit to opening 7 days a week due to having a young family.
 
I was at that meeting and don't remember hearing anything like that. Pop wouldn't have responsibility for issuing licences so is it possible you misunderstood?
I don't remember him saying that. But the licences would surely be licenses to occupy - not alcohol licences, so integral to leasing/renting at Pop I would have thought.
 
I don't remember him saying that. But the licences would surely be licenses to occupy - not alcohol licences, so integral to leasing/renting at Pop I would have thought.
Appears to have misunderstood or misheard.
 
I think he said more along the lines of she chose not to take a unit because she couldnt commit to opening 7 days a week due to having a young family.

Yes - that's what I meant. Not alcohol licence, but rental contract. He did present it more as 'I told her not to go forward with it' - yes, paternalistic. Is it common for businesses to be required to open seven days a week?
 
But given the amount of hype and PR that's been sent its way, I was surprised to see it so incredibly empty.

That's because Pop is crap. All the bright young things need constant distraction and a sense of being in the right place at the right time, and despite the finest hype and PR efforts Pop is pretty lame - just another booze and eatery place in a non too spectacular environment.
 
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Yes - that's what I meant. Not alcohol licence, but rental contract. He did present it more as 'I told her not to go forward with it' - yes, paternalistic. Is it common for businesses to be required to open seven days a week?
Big difference between "she chose" as Diet Coke Girl said and "he told her". Pretty sure I'd have recalled him saying something quite so dodgy.

Yes. It's common for groups of shops to have to open 6 or seven days a week as having some units only open at peak times could detrimentally affect other businesses. I'd have thought that the seven in this case would be because once the office community opens up it will have both a weekday and weekend identity. It does seem a bit pointless for some of the shops though - e.g. Clothes/jewellery. I'd have thought an optional one day closure (Monday or Tuesday) would be workable - as long as all on same day. No doubt some of the food /coffee places would choose to stay open anyway to service the office folk.
 
Big difference between "she chose" as Diet Coke Girl said and "he told her". Pretty sure I'd have recalled him saying something quite so dodgy.

Yes. It's common for groups of shops to have to open 6 or seven days a week as having some units only open at peak times could detrimentally affect other businesses. I'd have thought that the seven in this case would be because once the office community opens up it will have both a weekday and weekend identity. It does seem a bit pointless for some of the shops though - e.g. Clothes/jewellery. I'd have thought an optional one day closure (Monday or Tuesday) would be workable - as long as all on same day. No doubt some of the food /coffee places would choose to stay open anyway to service the office folk.

Fair enough - thanks for the clarification.
 
That's because Pop is crap. All the bright young things need constant distraction and a sense of being in the right place at the right time, and despite the finest hype and PR efforts Pop is pretty lame - just another booze and eatery place in a non too spectacular environment.

One problem is that the very high rents make life difficult for the independent food places in there, which is why Kaff has called it a day.
 
They have a lease for a period of something like 2 yrs. Obviously that can be extended. Planning permission was for up to 5 years.

May I refer the learned gentleman to the case of the millenium wheel which i believe only had planning permission for 5 years
 
May I refer the learned gentleman to the case of the millenium wheel which i believe only had planning permission for 5 years
You may. Retrospect is a fine thing and not the same things as prior guarantee. As I'm sure the learned gentlemen appreciates.
 
After I visited on the third day I have been fairly neutral up untiI now.

I 'popped' in today and now have to agree with the anti view. I don't think that race is the issue, I'm not totally sure it is class? I felt an attitude and sense of entitlement and agree that it felt like a bubble. As an everyday brixton person I felt very out of place.
 
I don't think that race is the issue, I'm not totally sure it is class?
I should think its age that is the issue speaking as a neo-pensionable Beehive user.
Maybe those only approaching middle age also feel uncomfortable! (Except the management)
 
After I visited on the third day I have been fairly neutral up untiI now.

I 'popped' in today and now have to agree with the anti view. I don't think that race is the issue, I'm not totally sure it is class? I felt an attitude and sense of entitlement and agree that it felt like a bubble. As an everyday brixton person I felt very out of place.

Difficult to define the terms you use.

I don't believe there is an 'everyday brixton person'.

I just feel old when I go in there.

But I get your idea about 'entitlement' too.
 
Quimcunx and I went to Pop yesterday evening, from 1900-2000. We had a double VAT and a Pimms flavoured cider (she had that, was like melted sweets :() - relatively reasonably priced at ~£8.

It was full but not packed, got fuller as time went on. Seemed to be after-workers as some shirt sleevey chaps with nice shoes, plus lots of young people that I recognised from when I was a young person.

I didn't really get it. Is it all food? Not work/retail spaces too? Some containers were piled up and I'm not sure there's space to have, um, ladders to have the higher one in use? Isn't the market all food too? So much food. Relentless Colombian (edited!) food. Surely there is a food tipping point?

It looked to me (idly) like it could be useful if the 'street level' was food/bars and the higher level was maybe desk hire for small biz/start ups with stairs up the back...? A hub? Does the area have that already?
 
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Quimcunx and I went to Pop yesterday evening, from 1900-2000. We had a double VAT and a Pimms flavoured cider (she had that, was like melted sweets :() - relatively reasonably priced at ~£8.

It was full but not packed, got fuller as time went on. Seemed to be after-workers as some shirt sleevey chaps with nice shoes, plus lots of young people that I recognised from when I was a young person.

I didn't really get it. Is it all food? Not work/retail spaces too? Some containers were piled up and I'm not sure there's space to have, um, ladders to have the higher one in use? Isn't the market all food too? So much food. Relentless Columbian food. Surely there is a food tipping point?

It looked to me (idly) like it could be useful if the 'street level' was food/bars and the higher level was maybe desk hire for small biz/start ups with stairs up the back...? A hub? Does the area have that already?

It's two thirds non-food. But the food has come first.
 
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