Petition- Full disclosure of all government documents relating to 1989 Hillsborough disaster

[strung out]

it's a shame that one or two MPs used it as an excuse to repeat their ill-informed nonsense about not allowing safe standing to return to football, but apart from that, people from all parties spoke pretty well.

hopefully the truth will come out, but i'm still fairly cynical about the whole thing. good to see the sun/news international finally getting some of the criticism they deserve too now that MPs aren't scared of them anymore

 

[sleaterkinney]

Speech by Steve Rotherham here:

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/video/interview/9935-steve-rotheram-speech-in-full

 

[friedaweed]

Justice will come when certain people have been brought to it.Thatcher,Hurd, Duckenfield and MacKenzie held to account for their fucking shameful behaviour is Justice. This is just the start of the process. Respect to the 40 odd true politicians that skipped the early train home to honour the families tonight. Having empathy is one thing exposing the dishonest cunts is another. Justice is still a long way off.
It's about the exposure of truth and the subsequent actions not words and sentiments.

One step closer still a long way to go.
Justice for the 96
Steve Rotherham you're a solid human being lad

 

[Deareg]

get 100,000 signatures on your petition and 15 mps will debate it! surely a huge victory for direct democracy.

Democracy in action. This is why we should all vote and forget about having a revolution.

 

[friedaweed]

Democracy in action. This is why we should all vote and forget about having a revolution.

Actually there were 77 when Steve made his speech. Does this matter to the families? Does if fuck.

 

[friedaweed]

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/video/interview/9936-andy-burnham-speech-in-full

 

[friedaweed]

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/video/features/9934-it-s-time-for-the-truth

 

[William of Walworth]

I'm sure most posting here will be aware of the other Hillsborough thread in UK politics and some of you will have posted there as well, eg frieda

But just in case, here's the link

 

[friedaweed]

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/19350

Now let's have the other cunts.

 

[Fedayn]

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/19350

Now let's have the other cunts.

Signed

 

[xes]

also signed

 

[bromley]

Signed.

 

[friedaweed]

11,407 as of this morning.

 

[Onket]

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/19350

Now let's have the other cunts.

Too fucking right.

Signed (26,974)

 

[OneStrike]

Signed, We are the 27,000!

Fucking things where you have to type two words to stop spam are getting harder to read.

 

[MellySingsDoom]

Signed this yesterday. If there was any justice, Murdoch and McKenzie would be dragged through the courts for their disgusting smears on the dead.

 

[Mungy]

signed and shared on facebook

 

[butchersapron]

Can i just post this related piece here please?

Bradford fire survivor attacks judge over Hillsborough comments

A survivor of the 1985 fire at Bradford City in which 56 people died has profoundly criticised the judge who conducted the official inquiry into that disaster and who this week unfavourably compared the response of families bereaved by the Hillsborough disaster to those of Bradford. Martin Fletcher, who lost four close relatives in the fire, pointed out that Mr Justice Popplewell's report had failed to overhaul safety at football grounds and have fences in front of stands removed, and that Hillsborough then happened four years later.

"I have many unanswered questions still about the fire in which four of my family died, as does my mother. Popplewell's report was nowhere close to the quality of Lord Justice Taylor's report after Hillsborough, and since reading it as an adult I have always been very disappointed in it and considered it a poor piece of work.

"Rather than lecture the Hillsborough families not to ask questions, the judge should ask himself why, after a disaster caused by a negligent approach to safety at football, despite his report, standards in football were allowed to remain so lamentably poor that another disaster happened at Hillsborough just four years later."

 

[friedaweed]

Can i just post this related piece here please?

Bradford fire survivor attacks judge over Hillsborough comments

Indeed and that too could have been avoided if the 1976 Green guide that was set up after the Ibrox disaster had been followed correctly. It identified the issue of debris under stands and recommended routine clearing of such after every game. Some of the rubbish found under the main stand at Bradford had been there for decades.A newspaper dated 1968 was found in the remains.

Hillsborough was just the one in a long line of disasters where profit was more important than people. The more you look into such events the more you find the warnings have already been made before the disaster strikes. The difference with Hillsborough was the speed in which the government and the media worked to ensure that the fans were seen to be the cause of the disaster.

 

[butchersapron]

Might be of interest to some, Sheila Coleman is presenting an update on the case and the last few years development at the new Hydra Books in Bristol tonight:

Date: Sunday, 27 November 2011
Time: 19:00
Venue: Hydra Books 34 Old Market, BS2 0EZ