Peter Crouch joins the Dulwich Hamlet board

[baleboy_93]

Can't say I've ever kept much of an eye on match day sponsorship over the seasons, but record numbers of people through the gate whilst no-one wants to sponsor the match or the ball seems a bit weird? The club are still looking for sponsors for tomorrow and were in a similar position for the Braintree game, with the Dulwich Diverter stepping into the breach a few days before.

Absolutely nothing to back this up beyond connecting those potentially random dots, but could it be that a smaller number of long term fans who were willing to invest in the club have been replaced with a larger number of newer fans who are happy to pay for their ticket but not really interested in contributing anything more than that?

And a similar story with the 12th Man Scheme, where a once crucial contributor to the club's playing budget has been deemed less important in recent seasons, likely offset by the increase in attendance revenue?

Even if any of that is the case, the revenue associated to the sponsorships would soon get overtaken by hundreds more through the gate, so if it's a choice between the two it's probably pretty easy for the club to prioritise.

In regards to the matchday sponsorship, we have sold the package for 21/23 games this season, with just tomorrow and Boxing Day unsold. Could just be the holidays season when people are away.

Matchball sponsorship is more of a struggle, but this is not new to this season.

 

[AveryDave]

Would have been sensible if I’d asked about that before going all conspiracy theory…

 

[Paula_G]

As someone who volunteers when I can (playing, admin & more with Peckham Town & Goal Diggers gets a lot of call on my time now) as a thank you to those in the club who’ve stuck by me through so much there is always going to something that detracts volunteers. That’s the fact that the club has a lot of paid (non-playing) employees on match day. It’s not always going to easy to attract volunteers for up to five hours unremunerated work when there are also those getting paid for doing a similar job. If the club is too attract more volunteers then it needs to find incentives that work, maybe helping with travel & admission to away games as an example.

 

[tonysingh]

As someone who volunteers when I can (playing, admin & more with Peckham Town & Goal Diggers gets a lot of call on my time now) as a thank you to those in the club who’ve stuck by me through so much there is always going to something that detracts volunteers. That’s the fact that the club has a lot of paid (non-playing) employees on match day. It’s not always going to easy to attract volunteers for up to five hours unremunerated work when there are also those getting paid for doing a similar job. If the club is too attract more volunteers then it needs to find incentives that work, maybe helping with travel & admission to away games as an example.

Goodness me Paula. You've made a sensible suggestion.

 

[Paula_G]

I always make sensible suggestions. Whether other chose to agree with them is up to them.

 

[jimbarkanoodle]

Oh I don't know. The Hamlet crowd seem a lot more affluent than many other clubs.

Yep, I ruefully overhear at least 3 'next holiday plans' every time I go to Hamlet. Usually skiing trips, from what I gather.

 

[scousedom]

Yep, I ruefully overhear at least 3 'next holiday plans' every time I go to Hamlet. Usually skiing trips, from what I gather.

“Tuscany…” is increasingly an ode to the second home destination of choice.

 

[Cat Daisy]

As someone who volunteers when I can (playing, admin & more with Peckham Town & Goal Diggers gets a lot of call on my time now) as a thank you to those in the club who’ve stuck by me through so much there is always going to something that detracts volunteers. That’s the fact that the club has a lot of paid (non-playing) employees on match day. It’s not always going to easy to attract volunteers for up to five hours unremunerated work when there are also those getting paid for doing a similar job. If the club is too attract more volunteers then it needs to find incentives that work, maybe helping with travel & admission to away games as an example.

Have they at least laid on a "Thank the volunteers" evening with free food & drinks, as did the step 3 club that I used to volunteer at? But the subsidised away tix is a good idea too.

 

[Paula_G]

There was a thank you to sponsors night arranged by the brilliant Clare which a lot of volunteers were in attendance as most of us are player sponsors. It was also the night that Ryan Adams and Signify were apparently brought on as sponsors

 

[Paula_G]

Yep, I ruefully overhear at least 3 'next holiday plans' every time I go to Hamlet. Usually skiing trips, from what I gather.

Not guilty your honour. Haven’t been skiing in years though now you mention it got to start saving up for the next trip.

 

[Cat Daisy]

Dulwich gig over. Onto the next one. Perhaps it pays better?
Masked Dancer 2022 | Start date, line-up, judges and news | Radio Times

 

[tonysingh]

Not guilty your honour. Haven’t been skiing in years though now you mention it got to start saving up for the next trip.

Oh I dunno, you sound half piste to me.

 

[editor]

Great that he's done the interview but not a single word said about the club's blazing hypocrisy for bringing in the celebrity face of gambling. Peter Crouch.

 

[hash tag]

First Crouch, next Johnson? Boris and Carrie have reportedly bought in this leafy south London village

 

[Cyclodunc]

What?

 

[hash tag]

Mr Johnson is possibly moving to Dulwich. He might want to socialise with the locals and attend footie.

 

[Taper]

Herne Hill I read - Stradella Road. Just round the corner from Harriet Harman!

 

[Roger D]

Don't recall Margaret Thatcher popping down Champion Hill when she had her place in Dulwich, though one Hendon fan used to rant about us all being Tory voters, Dulwich being a Tory club.etc. Strangely enough I forgot to point out the club was founded by a Tory politician who knew Tory PM Andrew Bonar-Law Given his known indifference to football I doubt Boris will be spotted behind the goal...

Incidentally Mishi wrote to John Major once asking if he ever watched Hamlet in his youth. He got a strangely worded reply saying something like had no recollection of doing so.

 

[Cyclodunc]

Mr Johnson is possibly moving to Dulwich. He might want to socialise with the locals and attend footie.

I doubt it.

 

[pbsmooth]

I can see it now. Replica shirt squeeze over his suit shirt.

 

[hash tag]

If you were a proper dad, it's a right of passage to take your young lad to football. You know it makes sense.

 

[tonysingh]

If you were a proper dad, it's a right of passage to take your young lad to football. You know it makes sense.

BoJo strikes me as the sort to support Toots.

 

[David Clapson]

Where's the thread discussing the TV series? Peter Crouch: Save Our Beautiful Game (A Spanner In The Works) on Quest, Tue 4 Oct 9:00pm - TV Guide UK TVGuide.co.uk

 

[scousedom]

Where's the thread discussing the TV series? Peter Crouch: Save Our Beautiful Game (A Spanner In The Works) on Quest, Tue 4 Oct 9:00pm - TV Guide UK TVGuide.co.uk

Discord.

 

[Don't Slow Down]

So now there seems to be worry about the our club and its future let's see where Crouch is!

 

[jimbarkanoodle]

So now there seems to be worry about the our club and its future let's see where Crouch is!

Watched the first episode last week. Lots of hand wringing and concern that hardly any fans would turn up to the first match of the season. Pretty sure before covid we were getting over 2K every home game and had been for a while. I'm not sure it needed Peter Crouch to walk down Peckham Rye Lane to pose for a load of selfies to get people through the turnstiles.

 

[Paula_G]

As the programme does make clear attendances at Champion Hill have been traditionally weak at the start of the season and it isn’t because half of the catchment area are still at the gîtes in the Dordogne or surfing off Kensington-on-Sea (Rock the Cornish call it) as some would have us believe. That season we also had Covid to deal with and the worry that fans might still be wary of returning to packed football grounds. The whole point of Crouch pressing the flesh was to try to appeal to a whole new demographic though as I found out when trying to promote the Trans Days of Visibility match was that some people were less interested in the message than they were in getting a selfie. The crowd for that Chippenham was the highest opening day attendance at the current Champion Hill and has probably not been bettered for more than half a century. The Crouch influence might be unquantifiable in my book though it would be intriguing to look at like for like games which shows that our four league games are all down on their respective fixtures in the last campaign. Whether this is a trend that will continue we’ll just have to wait and see. In the meantime enjoy the services - Episode 2 will probably have having a few major WTF moments.

 

[editor]

ss interested in the message than they were in getting a selfie. The crowd for that Chippenham was the highest opening day attendance at the current Champion Hill and has probably not been bettered for more than half a century. The Crouch influence might be unquantifiable in my book though it would be intriguing to look at like for like games which shows that our four league games are all down on their respective fixtures in the last campaign.

Wait: are you suggesting that Crouch was the main driver for the high attendances last season and they're down now because he's no longer at the club (not that most people would know if he is or not)?
If you're going down that route, maybe you should factor in the long term fans who stopped going regularly solely because of his involvement...

 

[baleboy_93]

Our attendances after the first three home games this season was higher than the first three from last season, the fourth was only lower as it was chucking down on a Tuesday night...

Also, our FA Cup tie with Margate was a higher crowd than the same stage against Bedfont Sports last season, so I'm not sure where you're going with them being down

 

[Paula_G]

Given that Bedfont have an average home attendance of 98 this season (155 last) compared to Margate’s 500+ this season it is only to be expected that one might bring greater following to the FA Cup. As I’ve said in my earlier post all this is unquantifiable. If we’ve lost all these long term supporters to the “Crouch Effect” where have they gone? I’d have loved them to be at Peckham Town but Saturday’s attendance there of 103 when Dulwich had 1800+ for Folkestone suggests otherwise. The gates for the first three games may be up compared to the first three games last season but gates against those teams, Braintree, Slough and Welling were also significantly less than the gates against the same teams last season (2705, 2705 & 3334) as opposed to this (1808, 2173 & 2320). I’m sure this has not gone unnoticed. Outside factors may or may not come into play but it’s going to be interesting how this plays out going forward. Dartford will be a very good bellwether given the crowd for a Saturday in August against a local-ish team was less than 2000+. Even with a train strike I expect the crowd to be higher.