Peter Crouch joins the Dulwich Hamlet board

[Paula_G]

Maybe it will help those tiny attendances to pick up though right?

There’s a reason clubs with smaller attendances do as well if not better than Dulwich Hamlet. Turnstile revenue is only part of the income needed to sustain the club long term. We don’t have the sort of wealthy backers or multiple income streams that others have. A lot of this is addressed in the early parts of the series.

 

[Cyclodunc]

I remember at the screening evening a few people said that there had to be mishi in the series at some point. The director and producers were there and it’s a shame if they ignored those comments.

 

[editor]

So I guess Crouch will never have to answer those questions that fans were told to send in, and it's beginning to look like an intentional strategy to keep them unanswered.

 

[Paula_G]

I remember at the screening evening a few people said that there had to be mishi in the series at some point. The director and producers were there and it’s a shame if they ignored those comments.

There were minor changes made to the first episode but the following episodes definitely lacked the real of this club. Hopefully that was because of the pressure to get these on line in time for a Christmas rather a failure to recognise the people and things that make this club more than just another Non League Club. With more episodes to come still hopeful this will be addressed…

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

There’s a reason clubs with smaller attendances do as well if not better than Dulwich Hamlet. Turnstile revenue is only part of the income needed to sustain the club long term. We don’t have the sort of wealthy backers or multiple income streams that others have. A lot of this is addressed in the early parts of the series.

Well, I think if the issue here is long term sustainability - ie the actual existence of the club - then the club need to communicate that rather than leaving it to you to argue with the likes of me on social media. If the point is more 'we need a bit more money to compete with whichever club has a bit more money than us' then that's not really the same as that argument will always apply up to the point you get bought out by petro-billionaires.

 

[Paula_G]

Well, I think if the issue here is long term sustainability - ie the actual existence of the club - then the club need to communicate that rather than leaving it to you to argue with the likes of me on social media. If the point is more 'we need a bit more money to compete with whichever club has a bit more money than us' then that's not really the same as that argument will always apply up to the point you get bought out by petro-billionaires.

“Sustainability” is rather different to competing with better bankrolled clubs around us. This is about building a strong academy that not only turns out talented footballers but well-rounded individuals. It’s about promoting football for all, with Women’s football taking an equal footing to men’s. It’s about a club that is part of the community 7 days a week rather than from 3pm on Saturday afternoon until the lights go out at full time. This is about having facilities that the local community can access for a range of activities. This is about continuing to remain a safe and welcoming place for all..

 

[Dirty South]

Have not gone in with high hopes of the documentary, but I'm really enjoying it.

I don't expect it to highlight the great things about Dulwich Hamlet, that's not it's purpose. It's made to flog a few subscriptions for Discovery+. It's not going to break any new ground. It'll be in the format the channel and its viewers expect, which is quite limiting. But having said that, I'm enjoying seeing behind the scenes and appreciating some of the challenges I wasn't aware of. I think Gavin comes over very well and Crouch comes over as at least likeable and sincere.

Also, I'm a sucker for drone footage of South London.

 

[editor]

 

[edcraw]

Have not gone in with high hopes of the documentary, but I'm really enjoying it.

I don't expect it to highlight the great things about Dulwich Hamlet, that's not it's purpose. It's made to flog a few subscriptions for Discovery+. It's not going to break any new ground. It'll be in the format the channel and its viewers expect, which is quite limiting. But having said that, I'm enjoying seeing behind the scenes and appreciating some of the challenges I wasn't aware of. I think Gavin comes over very well and Crouch comes over as at least likeable and sincere.

Also, I'm a sucker for drone footage of South London.

Agree - think it’s doing good just shining a light on non-league. We don’t need to publicity but all publicity for non-league is great.

Non-league attendances seem to be going up a fair bit - Dorking must have brought a hundred or so on Tuesday night - and the more that get into seeing their loca club the better.

 

[edcraw]

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Obviously the juxtaposition is uncomfortable and the fact the club/Crouch aren’t answering these questions but has the club stopped this campaign?

 

[blueheaven]

I can't read this as it's behind a paywall, but from the headline it sounds like this might be of interest: I’d love you, Peter Crouch, if only you’d bin the bookies

 

[Paula_G]

I can't read this as it's behind a paywall, but from the headline it sounds like this might be of interest: I’d love you, Peter Crouch, if only you’d bin the bookies

This website great for hopping over paywalls

I’d love you, Peter Crouch, if only you’d bin the bookies | News | Th…

archived 6 Mar 2022 07:52:04 UTC

archive.ph

 

[scousedom]

Won’t link to it but… just saw a new Crouch advert for his actual employers on the back of Cheltenham.

I gave the benefit of the doubt initially - to Ben and Tom et al, not to Crouch - because I thought he might have ended PP employment before starting at DHFC. This is now I think the second new advert he’s done while at the Club.

If he is being told to stop, he’s not listening. Why would he? He’s got what he wants.

I understand there’s more of the documentary series still to be filmed/shown and presumably the Club have a veto over allowing it. If so they are in a strong position to demand as a minimum condition of release a section (over which the Club has editorial control) where Crouch is confronted on this issue.

I would ask any Trust Board members reading this to demand that that is the case.

 

[AveryDave]

Won’t link to it but… just saw a new Crouch advert for his actual employers on the back of Cheltenham.

I gave the benefit of the doubt initially - to Ben and Tom et al, not to Crouch - because I thought he might have ended PP employment before starting at DHFC. This is now I think the second new advert he’s done while at the Club.

If he is being told to stop, he’s not listening. Why would he? He’s got what he wants.

I understand there’s more of the documentary series still to be filmed/shown and presumably the Club have a veto over allowing it. If so they are in a strong position to demand as a minimum condition of release a section (over which the Club has editorial control) where Crouch is confronted on this issue.

I would ask any Trust Board members reading this to demand that that is the case.

A prime issue where the ongoing silence and unwillingness to communicate honestly from the club to those raising concerns is causing ongoing and potentially long lasting damage.

There are a few reasons why I’m considering not renewing my season ticket next season, but this is the main one. As frustrating as it is sad.

 

[editor]

It's fucking embarrassing. What drew me to Dulwich Hamlet was the fact that we were different to other clubs. They were more inclusive, they took a stand on important issues, they listened to the fans and worked together for the local community.

And then they elect Peter Crouch - the current star of Paddy Power adverts - to the board for reasons they've never bothered to adequately explain to fans, and then effectively censor any questions from people concerned to find a high profile employee of a huge gambling company representing the club in the boardroom.

And all this took place with zero consultation and after people like me were literally hoodwinked at a press launch that forgot to mention the fact that the gambling superstar was only here to further his career as a TV presenter and make a documentary (that no one was consulted about).

Just look at this fucking pro-gambling shit from last week

Peter Crouch is on the rampage after receiving a suspect betting tip on the upcoming Cheltenham Festival... now he’s after revenge on horseracing expert, Mark Chapman.

Paddy Power’s latest spoof-style advert is here, and features former England football player Crouch hunting down the so-called expert who has given him a bad tip on the ‘nap of the day.’

Peter Crouch seeks revenge for “dodgy” Cheltenham tip in Paddy Power advert

Peter Crouch is on the rampage after receiving a suspect betting tip on the upcoming Cheltenham Festival... now he’s after revenge on horseracing expert,

www.gamblinginsider.com

 

[editor]

And let's not forget how things were just five years ago. Hypocrisy, much?

Whilst we would not personally accept sponsorship from betting companies,

However, we have also taken the opportunity to express our views on sponsorship from the gambling industry and reiterate our club position on this. As part of these discussions, it has been agreed that should the club gain financially from the sponsorship then it will donate that money to a charity that supports those with gambling addictions.

Dulwich Hamlet FC takes a stand against the betting industry

Dulwich Hamlet has won many new friends (and a few enemies) on social media after publicly repeating their stance of not supporting the betting industry and not engaging commercially with betting c…

www.brixtonbuzz.com

In response Helen Holmes said:

Well done Dulwich Hamlet for sticking to their Club’s principles. So many organisations these days – whether large or small – say one thing publicly & then do the opposite privately.

Oops!

 

[Don't Slow Down]

If the Supporters Trust have representation on the board, I believe 2 positions (Happy to be corrected) why were Trust Members not consulted on this comedy show that Crouch is doing. Surely that would have been the democratic approach!

 

[NPDHFC]

Does there need to be some sort of visible anti Crouch protest started at home games for the rest of the season?

 

[scousedom]

Does there need to be some sort of visible anti Crouch protest started at home games for the rest of the season?

Banner? What did you have in mind…?

 

[editor]

Does there need to be some sort of visible anti Crouch protest started at home games for the rest of the season?

This might get me back to the home games! Might piss off some of the tourists too. Good.

 

[tonysingh]

This might get me back to the home games! Might piss off some of the tourists too. Good.

Be nice if we could incorporate an anti gambling charity into this.

 

[editor]

Be nice if we could incorporate an anti gambling charity into this.

That, to me, would be the most 'Hamlet like' thing to happen on the terraces for a long time.

Anyway, I'm in if people are getting involved. Happy to promote it on Brixton Buzz/social media. Let's get this pro-gambling employee of Paddy Power out of Champion Hill!

 

[tonysingh]

That, to me, would be the most 'Hamlet like' thing to happen on the terraces for a long time.

Anyway, I'm in if people are getting involved. Happy to promote it on Brixton Buzz/social media. Let's get this pro-gambling employee of Paddy Power out of Champion Hill!

If we twinned the banner unveiling with a bucket collection for a gambling addiction charity then thatd go a long way to salve the wound on our conscience.


Just a suggestion like.

 

[editor]

If we twinned the banner unveiling with a bucket collection for a gambling addiction charity then thatd go a long way to salve the wound on our conscience.


Just a suggestion like.

Sounds great to me.

How well do you think that suggestion might go down in the Discord site? I don't post there but perhaps someone can see if there's any enthusiasm for fans taking a positive stand against the promotion of gambling...

 

[tonysingh]

Sounds great to me.

How well do you think that suggestion might go down in the Discord site? I don't post there but perhaps someone can see if there's any enthusiasm for fans taking a positive stand against the promotion of gambling...

I've never joined the Discord page long enough to find out. Every time i do, i get booted. It's enough to tickle my paranoia.

 

[scousedom]

That, to me, would be the most 'Hamlet like' thing to happen on the terraces for a long time.

Anyway, I'm in if people are getting involved. Happy to promote it on Brixton Buzz/social media. Let's get this pro-gambling employee of Paddy Power out of Champion Hill!

Paraphrasing your post… "PaddyPower Pete: get out of our Club"
That's the banner text sorted!

 

[Cyclodunc]

I just had a look on discord. It’s not exactly awash with chat

 

[Cat Daisy]

Paraphrasing your post… "PaddyPower Pete: get out of our Club"
That's the banner text sorted!

Happy to chip in for some matching stickers - from the money saved by not getting a s/t next season.

 

[editor]

The truth is, if this had happened at any other club I would have written a damning piece slamming into their hypocrisy months ago, but I've only held back because I care about Hamlet.

But seeing as the club don't seem to care much about what their fans think on this important issue - and questions to Crouch have gone unanswered months after they were asked - maybe it's time to get more proactive and let more people know.

Does anyone fancy writing a piece about all this for Brixton Buzz?

 

[EDC]

I just had a look on discord. It’s not exactly awash with chat

Forgotten all about it tbh. Shouldn’t be a thing anyway.