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hiraethified
If I was faced with assembling a large box of parts, cables, screws and fans my heart would sink.
Pesky PC - random shutdowns *shakes fist* - wha'gwan?
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UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
Except you've done more faffing around with this machine then any of my builds!
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hiraethified
The crucial difference being I can send it back and don't have to try and fix it myself.
Sunray
Its sunny somewhere.
If they are a decent company, shouldn't be a problem.
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hiraethified
I thought you all might like an update.
The shitty PC has gone back to Palicomp and I'm now waiting for them to refund me.
I went into YoYoTech in the west end yesterday to order a new machine and they were fantastic, talking me through every component and recommending a system that should perfectly match my needs and provide the best value for money. I wish I'd gone there in the first place really - it's much better to be able to talk to someone.
I should be picking up the new machine on Fri/Sat so I'll keep you posted. And it's going to be a Windows 7 PC
The shitty PC has gone back to Palicomp and I'm now waiting for them to refund me.
I went into YoYoTech in the west end yesterday to order a new machine and they were fantastic, talking me through every component and recommending a system that should perfectly match my needs and provide the best value for money. I wish I'd gone there in the first place really - it's much better to be able to talk to someone.
I should be picking up the new machine on Fri/Sat so I'll keep you posted. And it's going to be a Windows 7 PC
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Specs?
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Pretty mighty, with my preference being a huge SSD drive and a ton of RAM rather then a beefy graphics card as I'm not that big on games. The whole lot was around £1.2k.
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 Black Pearl
Powersupply: 650W Modular Corsair TX Series
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V Intel Z77 Socket 1155 DDR3 SATA III - 6Gb/s PCIe 3.0 (x16)
CPU: i7 3770k Intel Socket 1155 Quad Core 3.5GHz 5 GT/s DMI 650MHz GPU 8MB Smart Cache
CPU Cooler: Arctic Cooling Freezer 13 Pro Extreme Performance
Memory: 32GB (4x8GB) DDR3 1866Mhz G-Skill RipjawsX
Solid State Drive: 250GB 2.5" SSD Samsung 840
Hard Disk Drive: 2TB 3.5" Seagate 7200rpm 64Mb Cache Sata III 6GBPS Hard Disk Drive ST2000DM001
Optical Drive: LiteOn DVDRW
Graphics Card: HD7750 1Gb Sapphire 800MHz
Microsoft Windows Home Premium 7
Do beware that the K version has certain virtualisation - vPro and VT-D - features disabled. The K version is really for overclockers. How relevant these are to you, I do not know.
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None at all I would imagine seeing as I don't even know what virtualisation is!
The fella assured me that an i7 will be plenty powerful enough for my needs and that's good enough for me. This review looks good too.
Let's say you want to mess about with (for example) Android on your PC. (Or it could be MacOS, or Symbian, Blackberry, or even CP/M.) You could set it to dual-boot to Android, or you could completely reformat your PC with Android. Or, you could set up a pretend machine - a virtual machine - and run Android within its own little sandbox. Android, the 'guest OS', doesn't even know it's running inside Windows. Very nifty.
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No, I won't be doing any of that thanks.
The i7-3770 is hugely powerful and will undoubtedly serve you well for many years. It's just a question of which one. There are four: the 3770, 3770K, 3770S, and 3770T. I chose the i7-3770S model for the lower power consumption, with a modest drop in performance, and the intact virtualisation features. I'm not overclocking so I don't need the i7-3770K model, and I will need the virtualisation features, so I have to exclude it anyway! The i7-3770T model is even lower power, with a greater drop in performance.
Intel chip comparison link here.
No, I won't be doing any of that thanks.
Then you've made an excellent choice.
Epona
Sonic: 1 Nov 2006 - 8 Jan 2022
Last time I wanted a PC, I ordered all the parts, put it together, installed the OS, and was good to go (and I currently have 2 PCs in use that I built myself). Yeah sure if anything goes wrong with them I'll have to fix it myself, but it's been more than 2 years now and nothing has ever needed fixing - apart from the CPU fan working loose due to vibrations and needing to be re-seated - a less than 30 second job for something that could happen to any PC; and a DVD drive needing replacing (always, always, the DVD drive is the first thing to fail!), which cost me £12 for a new drive and less than 10 minutes to install - money spent paying someone else to build it and any payout for service/warranty would have been money wasted IMO. If anything did need fixing, I'd order a new part and do it myself, no need to send the whole computer away. True I have posted about computer issues in the past, but that was about very old PCs that were given to me and that were already on their last legs (8 or so years old), not modern ones that I'd built myself.
TitanSound
Mr Beardy Drummer
That's a nice sounding machine there. I do miss having a powerhouse PC. But I don't miss the cost 
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It is a lot of dosh, but it was cheap compared to some of the models they had there!That's a nice sounding machine there. I do miss having a powerhouse PC. But I don't miss the cost
Truth is, I'm on my machine up to 16 hours a day and do a lot of graphics editing, so I need a beefy machine that hopefully will last a good few years and pay back the investment.
Sunray
Its sunny somewhere.
Nice, like the whole spec.
The only thing I see as a problem is that Corsair psu. I had a TX, two things annoyed me. I just don't like the cabling, feels a bit cheap and plastic for an expensive PSU, but its a minor point.
The main issue I had, for some reason, my expensive sound card interacts with them, causes it to whine in quite the most brain destroying way. Ended up sending it back twice and on on the third return, gave up and ordered a Seasonic. The final replacement they sent me was an HX but its in the cupboard unopened. The Seasonic is silent. I wasn't the only person to have this issue either and it seems ongoing. Search corsair psu whine.
32Gb ram and 250Gb SSD, its going to blitz along. Can't see that ever needing upgrading or going wrong in many many years.
Even that graphics card isn't a slouch.
This is a complete irrelevance unless your running XenServer or VMWare ESx (or some such hypervisor).
The only thing I see as a problem is that Corsair psu. I had a TX, two things annoyed me. I just don't like the cabling, feels a bit cheap and plastic for an expensive PSU, but its a minor point.
The main issue I had, for some reason, my expensive sound card interacts with them, causes it to whine in quite the most brain destroying way. Ended up sending it back twice and on on the third return, gave up and ordered a Seasonic. The final replacement they sent me was an HX but its in the cupboard unopened. The Seasonic is silent. I wasn't the only person to have this issue either and it seems ongoing. Search corsair psu whine.
32Gb ram and 250Gb SSD, its going to blitz along. Can't see that ever needing upgrading or going wrong in many many years.
Even that graphics card isn't a slouch.
This is a complete irrelevance unless your running XenServer or VMWare ESx (or some such hypervisor).
Epona
Sonic: 1 Nov 2006 - 8 Jan 2022
I recall you posting about that at the time, incessant high-pitched noises are the sort of thing that can easily drive you up the wall in a short space of time IME! I have Corsairs in both my machines and thankfully I have not experienced that issue. Possibly because I don't have a dedicated sound card in either PC, that's not something I require with my current setup - but if I do ever go that route, I have remembered what you said about your Corsair experience and will bear it in mind!
Epona
Sonic: 1 Nov 2006 - 8 Jan 2022
Glad that your PC is quiet - if you want it to stay quiet, you will have to open up the case and remove dust from the fans - I think once every 2 months is a good maintenance schedule. Dust builds up quickly on the fan blades and will cause noise and retention of heat if you don't do regular maintenance to keep everything clean.I'm using the Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi HD USB sound card with and so far all seems well. The PC is very quiet as well. So far so good!
Yes, I'm getting a high-pitched whine from my Asus monitor. Not nice.
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The case comes with fancypant removable filters
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