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Permaculture - has anyone ever tried it?

Good choice, Mrs. M. :)

When I was first introduced to him, I nearly dismissed him because of his apparent piety. He does mention his 'faith' quite a lot in his work, which a lot of people find off-putting.

Then I read what he had to say about Christianity and I discivered that he is one of the most concise and eloquent critics of what passes for 'Christianity' that I have read.

Here: Christianity and The Survival of Creation.

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As it's relevent to the OP, here's his Rules for a local economy (which I've been known to have hanging on the wall above my desk):

Wendell Berry said:
Supposing that the members of a local community wanted their community to cohere, to flourish, and to last, they would:

(1) Always ask of any proposed change or innovation: What will this do to our community? How will this affect our common wealth?

(2) Always include local nature - the land, the water, the air, the native creatures - within the membership of the community.

(3) Always ask how local needs might be supplied from local sources, including the mutual help of neighbours.

(4) Always supply local needs first. (And only then think of exporting their products, first to nearby cities, and then to others.)

(5) The community must understand the ultimate unsoundness of the industrial doctrine of 'labour saving' if that implies poor work, unemployment, or any kind of pollution or contamination.

(6) If it is not to be merely a colony of the national or the global economy, the community must develop appropriately scaled value-adding industries for local products.

(7) It must also develop small-scale industries and businesses to support the local farm or forest economy.

(8) It must strive to produce as much of its own energy as possible.

(9) It must strive to increase earnings (in whatever form) within the community, and decrease expenditures outside the community.

(10) Money paid into the local economy should circulate within the community for as long as possible before it is paid out.

(11) If it is to last, a community must be able to afford to invest in itself: it must maintain its properties, keep itself clean (without dirtying some other place), care for its old people, teach its children.

(12) The old and the young must take care of one another. The young must learn from the old, not necessarily and not always in school. There must be no institutionalised 'child care' and 'homes for the aged'. The community knows and remembers itself by the association of old and young.

(13) Costs now conventionally hidden or 'externalised' must be accounted for. Whenever possible they must be debited against monetary income.

(14) Community members must look into the possible uses of local currency, community-funded loan programmes, systems of barter, and the like.

(15) They should always be aware of the economic value of neighbourliness - as help, insurance, and so on. They must realise that in our time the costs of living are greatly increased by the loss of neighbourhood, leaving people to face their calamities alone.

(16) A rural community should always be acquainted with, and complexly connected with, community-minded people in nearby towns and cities.

(17) A sustainable rural economy will be dependent on urban consumers loyal to local products. Therefore, we are talking about an economy that will always be more co-operative than competitive.

These rules are derived from Western political and religious traditions, from the promptings of ecologists and certain agriculturalists and from common sense. They may seem radical, but only because the modern national and global economies have been formed in almost perfect disregard of community and ecological interests.
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Hiya Riff
Yeah Permaculture is the way forward, its not only to do growing food its do with the design of practially everything we use.
The original permaculture Bible is by Bill Mollison, but if you want something a bit more practical theres usually a couple of books on ebay for around a fiver.

I did a short permaculture course whilst on my acces course at Ruskin College, the guy who ran the course grew a lot of stuff in his tiny garden, he worked it out that over a summer he managed to grow a couple of hundred quids worth of salad, the trick is to intensively plant in a small space, and keep your veg diverse using pungent herbs to keep the beasties away.
 
Mrs Magpie said:
I met him a few years ago....he's popped his clogs now....I remember when that book came out (the original I mean).
We had an online wake with his daughter at another site. It was a really strange but extremely nice ocassion.
 
Riff said:
I was watching a programme on BBC2 last Tuesday called "It's Not Easy Being Green" about a family who have moved to Cornwall and tried to convert their home into a low impact/eco-freindly house by using materials from renewable sources (wherever possible), building their own water-wheel for power, planting vegetables etc.

I felt really inspired by it and have decided to try and live a low-impact life as possible. I don't mean full-on self-sufficiency Good Life stylee, but simply eco-freindly. We already recycle all the material there is to recycle and compost our waste food.

We are fortunate enough to have a big garden, but can't really do much with it at the moment until we erect a fence.

Anyone had any experience and/or got any advice?

Try http://www.downsizer.net
 
Riff said:
I was watching a programme on BBC2 last Tuesday called "It's Not Easy Being Green" about a family who have moved to Cornwall and tried to convert their home into a low impact/eco-freindly house by using materials from renewable sources (wherever possible), building their own water-wheel for power, planting vegetables etc.

I felt really inspired by it and have decided to try and live a low-impact life as possible. I don't mean full-on self-sufficiency Good Life stylee, but simply eco-freindly. We already recycle all the material there is to recycle and compost our waste food.

We are fortunate enough to have a big garden, but can't really do much with it at the moment until we erect a fence.

Anyone had any experience and/or got any advice?
I'd love to do it - I can remember my dad having books about the very subject, and being all interested in what was going on in Machynlleth (just up the road from where I'm now living, as it happens!).

Moving out of London probably brought me a bit nearer the Dream...we'll see.
 
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