Palm: Pre, webOS & app discussion

[Sunray]

Oh, thats got to hurt!

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Great news!

 

[editor]

I think HP are going to be a great fit for Palm. They're a hugely successful electronics manufacturer who spend a lot of money in R&D. There could be some really interesting stuff coming up!

 

[grit]

I think HP are going to be a great fit for Palm. They're a hugely successful electronics manufacturer who spend a lot of money in R&D. There could be some really interesting stuff coming up!

Who are plagued by ridiculous lack of internal management and have failed consistently to produce any real successful consumer mobile electronics.

Your just happy someone has bought them

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

I think HP are going to be a great fit for Palm. They're a hugely successful electronics manufacturer who spend a lot of money in R&D. There could be some really interesting stuff coming up!

Yeah, right.

Anything they come out with now is too little , too late. The Pre was their chance and they fucked it.

 

[UnderOpenSky]

Yeah, right.

Anything they come out with now is too little , too late. The Pre was their chance and they fucked it.

Depends on how much their willing to spend. The Pre didn't fail because it was a bad product, but because it was poorly marketed. Some new products and a decent marketing budget could change that.

I think a web OS tablet could be interesting as well, the ipad has ignited interest in the form factor and most of them just don't have the grunt to run a desktop OS well.

 

[elbows]

Yeah, right.

Anything they come out with now is too little , too late. The Pre was their chance and they fucked it.

The Pre was Palms last chance as a standalone company, but I think its much too early to say what will happen as part of HP.

 

[Lazy Llama]

The first MP3 player I ever owned was designed by DEC/Compaq (now part of HP), so they did some relatively innovative work in consumer electronics, though this was back in 2000.
They didn't make or sell it themselves but they did do the design work.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_Jukebox - I still have it, with a 40GB drive in, instead of the 6GB it came with, and last time I checked, it still worked. Went round the world with me too.

 

[editor]

Who are plagued by ridiculous lack of internal management and have failed consistently to produce any real successful consumer mobile electronics.

Would this be the same 'unsuccessful' company currently selling more computers than any other manufacturer on the planet?

http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=1353330

 

[grit]

Would this be the same 'unsuccessful' company currently selling more computers than any other manufacturer on the planet?

http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=1353330

Where did I claim that their OEM business was unsuccessful?

E2A: The company has been through some rough times, looks to have stabilised now. The point I was making is that this is not something they traditionally would be strong in. I think Palm people are going to have a difficult time adjusting. Which doesn't lead to a good product.

 

[editor]

HP are keen to get into netbooks and slate products. The webOS is already a superior OS to the iPhone/iPad's, so mix Palm's OS with HP's world beating computing expertise and it's not hard to see vast amounts of potential for some really interesting new devices.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

I still would have preferred HTC but this is better than Palm going under and the innovative WebOS ceasing to be. The smartphone market seriously need a strong mix of OS' for people to choose from. And the coming tablet market too...can't wait to see what HP do with Palm!

 

[Lazy Llama]

It'll be interesting to see whether HP integrate Palm or keep it as a distinct unit as it used to be under US Robotics and 3Com.

If integrated it'll be a shame to see the brand die though I think it's now been shown that it's not a brand with a strong presence any more.

 

[sumimasen]

So where does this leave the humble Palm Pre owner?

 

[editor]

So where does this leave the humble Palm Pre owner?

In a much happier place I'd imagine, as it looks like HP are going to throw loads of cash at their platform.

 

[sumimasen]

As long as they're interested in mobiles rather than all this talk about tablets above!

 

[flutterbye]

It'll be interesting to see whether HP integrate Palm or keep it as a distinct unit as it used to be under US Robotics and 3Com.

If integrated it'll be a shame to see the brand die though I think it's now been shown that it's not a brand with a strong presence any more.

http://www.precentral.net/palm-operate-business-unit-within-hp

Here’s the word, straight from HP during today’s conference call: “We intend to operate it as a business unit, which is in line with the way we’re structured today.”

 

[editor]

After facing a wall of silence and disinterest from Palm, I've suddenly had one of their UK directors on the phone, promising me early review models of the Palm Pre Plus and Pixi Plus, and an extended loan of a Pre for evaluating apps - and a personal pre-release hands-on.

All very encouraging. I'm really intrugued by the Pixi Plus. It's not a phone for me, but I can see people liking it.

 

[Piers Gibbon]

that is encouraging

Palm's reluctance to engage with the public has always mystified me....someone needs to point out to them that when they have graphs saying "Units Purchased" it is PEOPLE doing the purchasing

 

[editor]

Palm delivered on their promise and I'm now holding an (original) Palm Pre on extended load.

First impression is that it's a lovely size and the OS is as pleasant as ever, but the overall experience has fallen a bit behind the 3GS, mainly because of the apps.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Palm delivered on their promise and I'm now holding an (original) Palm Pre on extended load.

First impression is that it's a lovely size and the OS is as pleasant as ever, but the overall experience has fallen a bit behind the 3GS, mainly because of the apps.

First impression? Didn't you own one before?

 

[editor]

First impression? Didn't you own one before?

Well, first impressions in light of not owning one for five months!

 

[flutterbye]

preware is what you need

 

[editor]

Yeah, I was on that before. I forgot how small the Pre is compared to the iPhone. I keep losing it!

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Well, first impressions in light of not owning one for five months!

Heh ah right.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Yeah, I was on that before. I forgot how small the Pre is compared to the iPhone. I keep losing it!

Was playing with a mates blackberry earlier, tiny little light thing compared to the hefty iPhone..!

 

[WWWeed]

So there not dead yet then...

O2 has followed its exclusive on the Palm Pre with the new Pre Plus and Pixi Plus smartphones, the telco said today.

Both handsets will be available on the network on 28 May. Trying for an iPad spoiler, O2?

We can't see the Palm phones drawing quite as much interest as the Apple tablet, but Palm buffs will look forward to the Pre Plus, which is essentially the old Pre with an extra 8GB of on-board Flash storage on top of the original 8GB.

It also comes with support for Palm's inductive charging technology, Touchstone, right in the box, though the Touchstone charging cradle remains an optional extra.

The Pixi Plus is a Wi-Fi enabled version of the Pixi candybar phone, which, unlike the Pre, always has its Qwerty microkeyboard on show, at the cost of a smaller, 2.6in 320 x 400 display. The Pre Plus has a 3.1in, 320 x 480 screen.

All the phones have GPS, HSDPA 3G connectivity, Bluetooth 2.1 and push email with Microsoft Exchange support.

O2 said the phones will be offered on 18-month and two-year contracts with monthly payments runing from, respectively, £30-50 and £25-60. All tariffs include unlimited texts, and 'unlimited' data and Wi-Fi usage. Bundled talk minutes range from 100 to unlimited.

The Pixi Plus costs £49 on the lowest of each contract's tariff, or free on all the rest. The Pre Plus costs £99 on the lowest of each contract's tariff, £49 on the next one up, and then is free on all the rest. ®

taken from http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2010/05/19/o2_palm_pre_plus_pixi_plus/

 

[editor]

The pricing is daft. Who's going to shell out £25/month for two years for a Pre Plus when you can get a HTC Desire? And they're stuck on fucking o2 again.



Full price plans here: http://www.wirefresh.com/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-in-uk-on-may-28th-daft-prices-again/

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Palm really do seem intent on fucking themselves up as much as possible, don't they?

 

[editor]

Palm really do seem intent on fucking themselves up as much as possible, don't they?

The Pre and Pixis are very nice phones, but you'd have to be a fucking nutter to spend what o2 are asking when you can get better phones on more established platforms for less.