Palm: Pre, webOS & app discussion
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grit
an ugly force for good
You sure you dont mean the Android interface is nothing to the WebOS interface?
WebOS is essentially WebKit on linux.
editor
hiraethified
You make it sound like it's been slapped together in half an hour when in fact it's pretty much recognised as the best mobile OS out there.
It's certainly the best I've ever used.
grit
an ugly force for good
Not at all, its just down to the architecture. WebOS is essentially a visual layer on top of a regular linux kernal. The bottom layers are pretty generic, its the user interface that's put on top of it that makes it magic. So its easy to put it on top of something else. If someone does buy them, I hope its RIM. They have the good hardware that fits the WebOS concept and an interface that by their own admission is not really up to much.
Sunray
Its sunny somewhere.
They might make a consumer version or just keep Palm.
Blackberries are part of a larger system for employees of large companies. The blackberry OS has full end to end encryption of all its data, one of its key marketing points.
That is something that cannot be shoehorned into an OS it has to be built in from the very start.
grit
an ugly force for good
Its not a trivial job to do it, but with that particular combination its the least messy.
editor
hiraethified
(((Palm)))
It's Commodore all over again!
Palm Shake-Up Imminent, Rubinstein May Be Out
http://techcrunch.com/2010/04/23/palm-shake-up/
Is Palm Crumbling Before Our Eyes?
http://mashable.com/2010/04/23/palm-crumbling
It's Commodore all over again!
Palm Shake-Up Imminent, Rubinstein May Be Out
http://techcrunch.com/2010/04/23/palm-shake-up/
Is Palm Crumbling Before Our Eyes?
http://mashable.com/2010/04/23/palm-crumbling
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Buy out any day now then...
flutterbye
English Breakfast
grit
an ugly force for good
I'm half considering dumping a few hundred quid into the stock if the rumors really gain traction. The question is, does anyone really want them?
grit
an ugly force for good
Exactly, I'm not sure if people are willing to spend 500 odd million quid for a few patents.
Lazy Llama
Suburban robots that monitor reality
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
Wish it had been HTC.
Still plenty of cash behind them, be interesting to see what hardware they choose to put WebOS on. I'm hoping for a much larger screened device with a physical keyboard.
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
Don't they make the Ipaq at the moment? It could be a move to be more consumer friendly and move away from winmo.
Sunray
Its sunny somewhere.
Oh yeah so they do, the iPaq was a compaq brand.
That set the world alight.
Clearly they can make some nice hardware, but they are very stern and business focused company. That's where they made all their money.
Consumer's orientated stuff always seem a bit of an afterthought with HP
That set the world alight.
Clearly they can make some nice hardware, but they are very stern and business focused company. That's where they made all their money.
Consumer's orientated stuff always seem a bit of an afterthought with HP
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
Never used one, assume its just another me to winmo device (although I think it may have been one of the first "pocket pc's)
It would make sense to buy another company who are better at it then they are. Only time will tell I guess.
It's not as bad as it could be i guess; HP are a huge company, with their tentacles in pretty much all areas of IT. Rather them than someone like Dell.
Whether they've really the focus and skills is another matter. Neither Palm or HP have ever really set the world alight with handset design in the past. Good OS, but there's a hell of a lot of work to do.
Whether they've really the focus and skills is another matter. Neither Palm or HP have ever really set the world alight with handset design in the past. Good OS, but there's a hell of a lot of work to do.
Sunray
Its sunny somewhere.
WebOS despite some serious press praise and actually being pretty good, failed.
I can't see how HP can remove the stranglehold that Apple and its App's have. HP have never produced anything as consumer focused as the iPhone and iTunes. Their laptops might be sold to the public, but it seems that no matter how hard HP try, cant quite get away from being a corporate company.
I can't see how HP can remove the stranglehold that Apple and its App's have. HP have never produced anything as consumer focused as the iPhone and iTunes. Their laptops might be sold to the public, but it seems that no matter how hard HP try, cant quite get away from being a corporate company.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Lazy Llama said:
Real shame it isn't HTC...
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
Price Differentiation? If they can provide devices of a similar spec, make them "free" on contract and market them well that could give them advantage. The last part will probably prove hardest. TBH I'd say their biggest competition won't be from apple, but from the many android devices that will be released before they get any new hardware out.
If they can make sure they hit all the networks, that would be a massive step up as well.
flutterbye
English Breakfast
Webos will make a great tablet OS, battery life is my only qualm with my pre, functionally its superb.
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
Sunray
Its sunny somewhere.
I think that its wait and see.
I am assuming they are going to be keeping Palm as an entity. Consuming it into HP will lose the creative talents that made WebOS. Just need to underpin their hardware division with some extra industrial quality, sadly lacking in the Pre by all accounts.
I am assuming they are going to be keeping Palm as an entity. Consuming it into HP will lose the creative talents that made WebOS. Just need to underpin their hardware division with some extra industrial quality, sadly lacking in the Pre by all accounts.
g force
Affects Shatner's Basoon
Too early to call but HP doesn't seem a great fit. HP's very problem is its size and reach into all sorts of things. I does good printers, but so it should. After that the company is a mish-mash of conflicting ideas...christ they spend tens of millions a year on a copywriting agency to try understand what they do internally.
flutterbye
English Breakfast
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