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Absolutely...alongside network options and price plans.
Well, yes that too :)

At least I'm not tied to a contract now, so I can hopefully pick up the Pre for free on a 12 month deal (although I reluctantly accept that's more likely to be 18 months) and then flog off my G1.
 
From my experience of using an iPhone and G1 (both virtual and hardware keyboards), I can categorically say that unless they've done something catastrophic to it, the Pre's Centro-like keyboard (and its placement) is going to kick the ass of both. As a big time keyboard thumper, that's the USP that's going to be draw me to the Pre.

That will depend on your opinion of on-screen or hardware keyboards. :D And from the previews of Firmware 3.0 posted online it looks like there will be more use of the horizontal, full width keyboard. From where its used already, IME its much easier to type faster with two fingers..
 
That will depend on your opinion of on-screen or hardware keyboards. :D And from the previews of Firmware 3.0 posted online it looks like there will be more use of the horizontal, full width keyboard. From where its used already, IME its much easier to type faster with two fingers..
Research has found that a decent hardware keyboard is always more accurate than a virtual one, whatever its orientation, and that's echoed in my own experiences. It's also a lot more comfortable with a real keyboard as you get tactile feedback and don't have to keep looking at the keyboard to see what you're typing.

I don't really fancy having to move the phone to landscape mode to write messages either, but each to their own. I'm only stating my opinion.
*expects 15 more pages on the tedious intricacies of keyboard use on smart phones*
*expects more pointless sneery comments from KE
 
TBH the best keyboard i've used is on the Blackberry Curve - although 'keyboard' also relies on the ergonomics of the handset itself and how you can hold it and type with one hand etc not simply the key spacing, 'give' and speed it appears on the screen.

Anyhow...I pray the Pre will come out on Orange or Vodafone although with Voda so tied to RIM I wonder if they'd bother? And they're the only two networks I can get coverage in my flat with!
 
Damn....02 is the thing that stopped me getting an iphone (really cannot be arsed with unlocking shit). Exclusive network deals suck balls.
 
It's not definite yet, and there's a chance that the Pre may also be available unlocked (at a suitably wallet draining price).
 
Which then makes it even less of an option sadly. As nice as it looks so long as I have Google maps, email and a working phone i'll stick to my BB on Vodafone. I left 02 due to network issues and shitty customer service and I never intend to return!
 
Looks like Palm's done an amazing job in the UK of hyping up the Pre. This from the Daily Mirror:
Results: Palm Pre beats the new iPhone!

The numbers are in. We asked you which gadget due in Summer you’d be buying first and you voted for the Palm Pre in droves, crushing the new iPhone. Read on for the full results.

Microsoft’s since denied a June Zune HD unveiling, but with the Palm Pre and new iPhone revealing taking place next month too, we wanted to know which was first on your shopping list, and you’ve told us in a landslide.

An immense 83% of you said you wanted a Palm Pre over the new iPhone or Zune HD, going against analyst predictions. Just 12% said they preferred the new iPhone, while a measly 5% wanted Microsoft’s Zune HD above all else.

Will the Palm Pre trump the new iPhone? webOS is certainly shaping up as a serious rival to iPhone OS 3.0, but with new iPhone hardware still up in the air, Apple could still throw a few surprises our way next month at WWDC.

http://www.electricpig.co.uk/2009/05/13/results-palm-pre-beats-the-new-iphone/

Here's a fairly comprehensive Pre video review It's still looking pretty damn good to me:
 
Looks like Palm's done an amazing job in the UK of hyping up the Pre. This from the Daily Mirror:

Here's a fairly comprehensive Pre video review It's still looking pretty damn good to me:

What does electricpig.co.uk have to do with the Daily Mirror...? :confused:

And I'm not seeing the raw results or the methodology of this poll. :confused: And if its the results of the poll here it looks like someone has just posted the results of a Internet Web Poll... :hmm:
 
The Daily Mirror don't do their own tech journalism, they just syndicate it in from that ElectricPig site.
 
Some Sprint workers have got their paws on the Pre and one is feeling the love:
A number of Sprint Employees have tipped us that the Palm Pre Advocate units have arrived in stores - for really real. These are the one-per-store units assigned to an employee who will be the Pre expert for that location -- the Advocate. We've already heard from one Sprint Employee's impressions on the keyboard, now we have that and a lot more.

First off, the phone is as small as we've reported, it "feels like pure sex in the hand." Ahem. We have corroboration that the keyboard does in fact feel on the small side: "definitely a cross between a Centro and a Treo Pro keyboard." The webOS is "amazing" and "responsive."
Apparently, a Twitter search tab is now embedded in the overall search interface which would be a handy touch.


http://www.precentral.net/palm-pre-sprint-advocate-phones-have-arrived-really-real
 
I'm sure Palm aren't even slightly bothered about the accuracy or methodology of the poll - they'll just be delighted to get such juicy mainstream press ahead of launch.

Certainly good PR. The poll is meaningless without detailing their methodology...

Some Sprint workers have got their paws on the Pre and one is feeling the love: Apparently, a Twitter search tab is now embedded in the overall search interface which would be a handy touch.

Are they going to have regular firmware update to integrate every new bandwagon...? :D
 
Interesting that there's pr of that level in a British tabloid, almost hints the Pre may arrive sooner than later in the UK...
 
Interesting that there's pr of that level in a British tabloid, almost hints the Pre may arrive sooner than later in the UK...
It's only on their website, not in the paper AFAIK; they simply take a feed of everything from that ElectricPig site - http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/technology/ I doubt Palm or their PR had anything to do with the mention.

There are lots of stories fed through, mostly sourced elsewhere. The Pre one mentioned is already at the bottom of the third page of tech news just under the "Android shipments to increase 900% in 2009" story, so it's not exactly a huge profile.
 
@jaed Twitter is good for __some__ things, like getting the attention of managers of some companies.

I don't doubt its useful. I'm just wondering how they will keep Synergy working when new social networking sites pop-up all the time...
 
Add a search field along with wikipedia, google etc? I don't see that they have to jump on every single SN site that comes along to the degree they do with Facebook...
 
I don't doubt its useful. I'm just wondering how they will keep Synergy working when new social networking sites pop-up all the time...
Successful ones don't "pop up all the time."

Twitter has been going since 2006 and it's now the third most used social network (Facebook being the largest, followed by MySpace). Being able to directly search Twitter from inside the Palm webOS with an integrated interface will be a lot more convenient than having to fire open a third party app.

You may not use it much, but for an awful lot of people, Twitter is one of the main things they do while connected.
There are lots of stories fed through, mostly sourced elsewhere. The Pre one mentioned is already at the bottom of the third page of tech news just under the "Android shipments to increase 900% in 2009" story, so it's not exactly a huge profile.
Pretty damn good for Palm's publicity dept, though.

That's just the sort of quote that does wonders for a PR campaign.
 
That's just the sort of quote that does wonders for a PR campaign.
Yeah, on past evidence I expect their adverts to go something along the lines of:

Palm PR said:
Most anticipated phone of summer 2009*, coming to you in umm... well we're not sure, but probably not summer 2009, or maybe we can get an Indian Summer that'll stretch out a bit to... well, we can't really say, but it'll be soon**
(* Compared to 2 other currently non-existent phones)
(** May not be soon)
:D
 
Add a search field along with wikipedia, google etc? I don't see that they have to jump on every single SN site that comes along to the degree they do with Facebook...

If there was some kind of open framework that allowed people to write plugins to import contacts from other social networking sites then you wouldn't have to jump on each one. Just let the community do it for you.

And don't forget in some countries like Brazil (with Orkut), other SN's are very popular...!
 
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