Palm: Pre, webOS & app discussion

[Kid_Eternity]

PS I'm not sure how you expect Palm to 'shut speculation down.' Apple have it every day.

They could easily deny it and announce some new titbit of info which would shift the coverage on from these potentially sales damaging reports. Android is interesting but neither of the current set of handsets inspire me, I don't see anything new coming out by the time I'll be buying so my next choice will be a Blackberry or the new iPhone.

 

[editor]

They could easily deny it and announce some new titbit of info which would shift the coverage on from these potentially sales damaging reports.

I don't think it is damaging to have people constantly talking about Palm in the news, and their rising share price seems to back that up.

And if they 'deny' anything they end up giving away info to competitors. They're just doing what Apple do, IMO.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

If they deny it they don't give any advantage to their competitors, and like I said they need to sway and influence the narrative. I don't really see them doing that with their lack of response to this...

 

[g force]

In line with all good web rumours, a suitably vague and blurry photo of the 'second' Palm phone has emerged with it looking a bit like a stretched Centro.

http://mypre.com/palm-webos-qwerty-candybar-image-leaks-2009301415

Can't say I'm convinced yet.

Looks like a BlackBerry Curve with extended screen! But as you say it could be anyything in that pic

 

[Xanadu]

So, I'm guessing UK release date is several months away?

My phone is knackered now, and I'm desperate for something new. Alas, I'm not sure what to go for. Seems like the choices are something good for web browsing (the Nokia E71 or Blackberry Bold), or something with a 3.5mm headphone out for MP3 playing/flash for taking pictures (the Nokia N96 or Sony Ericsson C905).

 

[editor]

So, I'm guessing UK release date is several months away?

Most likely but it could be earlier. No one knows at the moment and it's ruddy frustrating.

 

[Xanadu]

Most likely but it could be earlier. No one knows at the moment and it's ruddy frustrating.

I don't think I can wait long enough

Though, in July, this baby is coming out: http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/shop/mobile-phone/nokia-n97?WT.srch=1

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Yeah I can't wait either really, just about had enough of the quaint Palm Centro and want something with a bigger screen and better apps...

 

[editor]

Yeah I can't wait either really, just about had enough of the quaint Palm Centro and want something with a bigger screen and better apps...

The Centro has aged rapidly even though some of the apps are excellent and it's far more usable than a lot of newer phones.

I've been humbled more than a few times when I've had to ask to borrow someone's iPhone/G1 etc to view a website that the Centro couldn't muster and the lack of GPS has become a pain.

I'm thinking that a s/hand G1 may be my only way to cure those waiting blues.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Yeah it is a great little phone whicj has served me very well but its time has come to an end. Apps are key but screen size is a major factor for me now...

 

[Crispy]

Loads more info on the 2nd WebOS phone, called the Eos, apparently

http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/30/palm-eos-super-thin-3g-and-headed-to-atandt/

4GB storage
Price: $349 (pre-rebate)
Camera: 2 megapixel fixed focus digital camera and flash / video capture
Connectivity: Bluetooth 2.1 w/ A2DP and EDR, USB 2.0 via micro USB
Removable 1150 mAh battery (4 hours 3G talk time)

 

[Lazy Llama]

Loads more info on the 2nd WebOS phone, called the Eos, apparently

Editor beat you to it - http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=9075359&postcount=1017

 

[editor]

Editor beat you to it - http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=9075359&postcount=1017

I am *so* on the ball.

 

[Crispy]

I'm so off the ball, the ball's on me. Or something

 

[editor]

I'm so off the ball, the ball's on me. Or something

It's hard to get comfy on the ball though.
*kicks it over to Crispy

 

[editor]

Now, here's a wild one:

Palm: Will Foleo Be Revived As A Netbook?

Is Palm (PALM) working on a netbook?
Trip Chowdhry, an analyst with Global Equities Research, asserts in a note to clients today that Palm is doing exactly that: he says they intend to produce a $399 netbook that will run the Palm Web OS that debuts soon on the eagerly awaiting Pre smartphone. Chowdhry says the device will use Qualcomm’s (QCOM) Gobi 3G wireless chip, ARM (ARMHY) chipsets and have 8-10 hours of battery life. He says the device is being designed by three ex-Apple (AAPL) iPod guys. He also says the netbook will only support browser-based applications, and not “native applications.”


http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2009/05/01/palm-will-foleo-be-revived-as-a-netbook/

 

[UnderOpenSky]

Why would you buy a machine with a non standard OS? Palm should stick to making phones for now.

 

[Sunray]

WebOS netbook v Windows Netbook

Extreme fail.

I can get a fairly decent Atom based netbook that has 6-7 hours battery that can run firefox and other standard applications. What would possess me to buy one that doesn't?

http://www.dabs.com/products/hp-com...idescreen-5HVX.html?refs=4294952000-423160000

272 is about 399 US.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Why would you buy a machine with a non standard OS? Palm should stick to making phones for now.

Indeed. If its a retarded netbook like the fooleo then Palm are real idiots...just get the bloody Pre release ffs Palm!

 

[editor]

WebOS netbook v Windows Netbook

Extreme fail..

Best see if it exists and see what it does before declaring it a failure, I'd say.

 

[UnderOpenSky]

What features would you like to see to make you buy one over a windows based netbook?

 

[editor]

What features would you like to see to make you buy one over a windows based netbook?

Full 3G integration with GPS and synergy would be an interesting start, but I'm not judging it until I see something solid about it.

 

[editor]

A few more trickles of info: there's going to be full support for Office 2007, ringback tones, and custom ringtones, with the promise of video recording support and wireless PictBridge printing further down the line.

Interesting facts for the impatient types here insisting that Palm are screwing everything up by taking so long to release it:

iPhone: announced on January 9, 2007
released on June 29, 2007

Pre: announced on January 8, 2009
...

 

[Sunray]

Steve Jobs announced the date it was going to be available to buy and they stuck to it.

Palm have yet to do that apart from the vague 1st half of this year if it all goes to plan.

Never predict the future, generally going to be wrong.
http://www.computerworld.com/action...&articleId=9008439&taxonomyId=15&pageNumber=1

 

[g force]

I don't believe that analyst or indeed many analysts. I bet he's saying all of that while also recommending his clients buy stock then as the share price rises, dump it.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

A few more trickles of info: there's going to be full support for Office 2007, ringback tones, and custom ringtones, with the promise of video recording support and wireless PictBridge printing further down the line.

Interesting facts for the impatient types here insisting that Palm are screwing everything up by taking so long to release it:

iPhone: announced on January 9, 2007
released on June 29, 2007

Pre: announced on January 8, 2009
...

Who's doing that?

All I've said is they should announce when it's going to be released and focus on the Pre and stop all this crap about other phones and devices...Apple announced it in Jan and said when it was going to be released.

 

[Lazy Llama]

Palm have announced their Pre partner for Canada:

TORONTO, May 06, 2009 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Palm, Inc. (NASDAQALM) today announced that Palm Pre(TM), the first phone based on the new Palm(R) webOS(TM) mobile platform, will debut in Canada exclusively on Bell Mobility's 3G high-speed mobile network in the second half of 2009.

http://investor.palm.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=382075

There's also a CNet article comparing Pre and iPhone multi-tasking and notifications.

 

[jæd]

Palm have announced their Pre partner for Canada:

http://investor.palm.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=382075

Bell Mobility has a CDMA network so its likely they will be deploying this version. I would guess mid-August to September. I would also guess at the first week of July for the US Pre launch. (So that there's enough seperation but continued interest...)

There's also a CNet article comparing Pre and iPhone multi-tasking and notifications.

There's also an overview of Pre multi-tasking and notifications at : http://developer.palm.com/webos_book/book3.html

 

[g force]

But no word on European or UK networks? Does that suggest a September/October UK launch?

 

[editor]

The Centro took ages to make it over to the UK after its US launch, so maybe we will suffer the same kind of delay. Or maybe not.