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"...The GSM version for Europe and Latin America may debut later this year..." Great, the UK can't even be guaranteed a release date in 2009. <anger rising>
 
"...The GSM version for Europe and Latin America may debut later this year..." Great, the UK can't even be guaranteed a release date in 2009. <anger rising>

Hmmm but didn't Palm say the Pre would launch in Europe 1st half of this year also?
 
Hmmm but didn't Palm say the Pre would launch in Europe 1st half of this year also?

Open to some interpretation.

Palm Pre Press release said:
Availability and Pricing Palm Pre is scheduled to be available first in the United States exclusively from Sprint in the first half of 2009, and will be followed by a world-ready UMTS version for other regions

The US version is EV-DO rev A so no point getting your US mate to send you one.
 
Ah well, that's them fucked then.
So long as the Pre delivers on the tech front and is supported by keen pricing and strong advertising, I think the Palm will do very well indeed.

It's already picked up massive press interest and I can't see that all disappearing overnight just because another version of the iPhone is coming along.

The Pre is quite a different phone offering different features and strengths and not everyone wants an iPhone.

If the European Pre release date slips back in Europe too far, I'll probably get a s/hand G1 to bide me over or summat.
 
I'm getting a new current gen smartphone in July so if Palm want my money they better get it out. My iPod is basically dying now so getting an iPhone with decent storage is a serious temptation.
 
32gb is a near certainty for the iPhone.

Thats one decision I can't quite fathom for the Pre and one I hope they correct quickly. 8Gb with no expansion. All my apps for take up a few Mb so the Gb's of storage is for files or for entertainment and 8Gb suddenly isn't so great.
 
Makes no sense. If they gave it 8gb of storage with Micro SD slot, you could have up to 40gb in your pocket*. The way SD card prices fall it would make a lot of sense.

*Although I wish they would hurry up and release 32gb micro SD.
 
It's down to pricing. Not everyone needs 32GB and not everyone wants to fork out the extra for 32GB. If Palm are looking to woo people with a keen pricing, then 8GN is a decent compromise. After all, that's a fair bit of storage for all but the hardcore multimedia freaks.

I wish it had come with a SD card slot though - then it would have ticked all my boxes.

Oh, and a bit of press:

Palm Pre Something to Tweet About
Palm's(PALM Quote) upcoming Pre smartphone is a hit already, if your measurements include how much Web site and blog space is devoted to the new touch-screen device. The device is a hot topic on Twitter.com, garnering nearly 33 million online mentions so far.

http://www.thestreet.com/story/10491209/1/palm-pre-something-to-tweet-about.html
 
32gb is a near certainty for the iPhone.

Thats one decision I can't quite fathom for the Pre and one I hope they correct quickly. 8Gb with no expansion. All my apps for take up a few Mb so the Gb's of storage is for files or for entertainment and 8Gb suddenly isn't so great.

Me either, I have just over 16 gigs of music plus apps, and probably would have some vids, I need 20 gig absolute minimum.
 
It's down to pricing. Not everyone needs 32GB and not everyone wants to fork out the extra for 32GB. If Palm are looking to woo people with a keen pricing, then 8GN is a decent compromise. After all, that's a fair bit of storage for all but the hardcore multimedia freaks.

I wish it had come with a SD card slot though - then it would have ticked all my boxes.

Oh, and a bit of press:

Choice is never a bad thing. Obvious to have a range of phones with various memory configurations.

I'm running 13gb music and thats because I trim it of stuff I know I've not listened to.

Priority is to release it? Are they just going to launch it or are they going to give a date?
 
It's down to pricing. Not everyone needs 32GB and not everyone wants to fork out the extra for 32GB. If Palm are looking to woo people with a keen pricing, then 8GN is a decent compromise. After all, that's a fair bit of storage for all but the hardcore multimedia freaks.

I wish it had come with a SD card slot though - then it would have ticked all my boxes.

Oh, and a bit of press:

What I meant was by including a micro SD slot you could give people the choice. 8gb will be enough for many, but those who wanted to could add an additional 16gb or 32gb.
 
New blog post from someone at Sprint with lots of useful info.

Details on "First Use", how to make your Pre faster if it becomes sluggish, how to extend battery life, how to transfer data from your desktop, integration of IM and SMS/MMS, all sounds very interesting and the blogger says they work well in practice.

There is a curious statement that "the only actual device complaint is the inability to select/hilight text on a webpage" which I'd have thought would be one of the main places you'd want to select text. Could be that he/she got it wrong or that they're not talking 'select' in a cut'n'paste context.

The blogger says that actual release date is soon...
 
And I'm not a great fan of handsets that won't tether either (but that could just be a sop to Sprint for the US market)
 
Hmmm tips on how to extend battery life or performance don't inspire confidence.

Nor does : "# Make sure a data-intensive app isn’t running in the background (e.g., Music)." :hmm: And with just 8gb it doesn't seem much of an iPhone killer...

Hopefully it wil be out soon so we can through all the hype and speculation...
 
Nor does : "# Make sure a data-intensive app isn’t running in the background (e.g., Music)." :hmm: And with just 8gb it doesn't seem much of an iPhone killer...

Hopefully it wil be out soon so we can through all the hype and speculation...

Yep...
 
Nor does : "# Make sure a data-intensive app isn’t running in the background (e.g., Music)." :hmm: And with just 8gb it doesn't seem much of an iPhone killer...

Hopefully it wil be out soon so we can through all the hype and speculation...


TBF any phone is going to suffer from poor battery life if you leave lots of apps running in the background that use the features like GPS and wireless/data connection. If people haven't had a phone that can multi task before its worth reminding them of the fact.
 
Some early SDK emulator shots. The interface is already looking very slick and clean.

pre-emulator-shot-prethinking-2.jpg


http://www.prethinking.com/webos-early-sdk/webos-early-sdk/2248834

(*one image fixed)
 
Really? I can see 'em OK. Try following the link instead.

Yeah, if you've already viewed an image at the original site, your browser will show it in the thread using the copy from its cache. But if you haven't visited the link yet, the image won't work. This is the case for all sites that don't allow hotlinked images.
 
Later rumour suggests that Palm is planning a balls-of-steel launch the day before the iPhone.

The really ballsy part, if it's true, is the utter confidence Palm must have in their product to think they can overshadow whatever Apple decides to launch in the way of a new iPhone the following day. There's been a few rumours that it's a tablet and low end iPhone we'll be seeing in which case the Pre would stand out. Perhaps a few of the ex-Apple employees over at Palm still have some buddies on the inside.
http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/04...t-the-pre-the-day-before-apples-wwdc-keynote/
 
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