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[editor]

I condemn ALL businesses who engage in any kind of tax avoidance scheme, both those moving into Brixton or those already operating in Brixton.

Do you agree with that statement?

I can see you think you've got some killer argument ready to unleash here, so let's have it. Yes, I condemn any cunts using off-shore tax avoidance schemes, and they're even more cunty when they've been gifted what was supposedly community space to make their cash.

 

[editor]

So they have moved out of pop?
So you should be happy?

Do you condemn their financial practices?

 

[alcopop]

Do you condemn their financial practices?

As far as I can see from here it’s their investors who are based offshore not the original company

You need to be more specific about the “financial practices” you are inviting me to condemn

 

[editor]

As far as I can see from here it’s their investors who are based offshore not the original company

You need to be more specific about the “financial practices” you are inviting me to condemn

Are you OK with new Brixton businesses being funded by offshore, tax-swerving investors?

 

[alcopop]

Are you OK with new Brixton businesses being funded by offshore, tax-swerving investors?

Off shore just means not based in uk

I would like to assume you have some knowledge that they are “tax swerving” but I know you haven’t done any kind of research.

You’re having another spittle-flecked rant

 

[editor]

Off shore just means not based in uk

I would like to assume you have some knowledge that they are “tax swerving” but I know you haven’t done any kind of research.

You’re having another spittle-flecked rant

Did you not read what was posted earlier? One of their investors is registered in the British Virgin Islands. Now what is that famous for? And why would they choose to register the company there? Any ideas?

Oh and keep up the 'spittle flecked' abuse and you'll be out of this thread.

 

[alcopop]

Did you not read what was posted earlier? One of their investors is registered in the British Virgin Islands. Now what is that famous for? And why would they choose to register the company there? Any ideas?

Oh and keep up the 'spittle flecked' abuse and you'll be out of this thread.

I don’t think you know enough about international tax law to have an opinion on it

And I’m sure I don’t so I will leave you and your ignorance in peace.

 

[editor]

I don’t think you know enough about international tax law to have an opinion on it

And I’m sure I don’t so I will leave you and your ignorance in peace.

Nice swerve there. I'm sure no one noticed.

 

[snowy_again]

It feels like groundhog day where something connected to pop is being critiqued solely because they have a connection to pop.

From looking at Companies House, Kricket Soho and Kricket Ltd etc have the same three (seemingly UK based and domiciled) Directors. The ones who get mentioned in press releases about Kricket. They appear to set up a company per restaurant; much like the lovely Antic. No idea whether they got a rent free period - as pop was based on a mix of subsidised, rent free and commercial levels wasn't it?

I think Ed's upset at a separate company (white rabbit) that one (and only 1) of the 3 kricket directors has set up with two other people / entities unconnected to Kricket. It's registered at Companies House in the UK (compliance and regulatory systems of the FCA etc.). The "Swiss" K&K tricky mentions appears to be this lot: Kofler & Kompanie - Imprint which is a Euro food events company. That website should give Ed enough to spaff over for a while!

 

[alex_]

Does that make it OK then? Do you think Pop Brixton should have been welcoming in offshore registered businesses given its supposed 'community' focus on local start ups?

I can understand why they wanted a blend of lower risk well funded businesses and higher risk ones.

Alex

 

[alex_]

Are you OK with new Brixton businesses being funded by offshore, tax-swerving investors?

Are you saying that no Brixton business should have Caribbean based investors ?

Alex

 

[alcopop]

Are you saying that no Brixton business should have Caribbean based investors ?

Alex

Yes he is saying that.

 

[editor]

Are you saying that no Brixton business should have Caribbean based investors ?

Alex

That's quite a beautiful twist. Fantastic stuff.

 

[editor]

I can understand why they wanted a blend of lower risk well funded businesses and higher risk ones.

Where did they state that?

 

[alex_]

Where did they state that?

I wouldn’t have through they did, but I’d imagine a landlord with a stated intent of taking on higher risk business would want some lower risk ones to manage the overall risk profile.

Alex

 

[editor]

I wouldn’t have through they did, but I’d imagine a landlord with a stated intent of taking on higher risk business would want some lower risk ones to manage the overall risk profile.

Alex

So you made it up.

I would have thought that a rent-free 'community-based' prime site selling itself on providing an opportunity for locals to try out their business start-ups would be all about giving people a chance. Otherwise it's a straightforward business park with no community credentials.

Oh, wait. That's what it is.

 

[Ms T]

From memory one of them lived in Brixton when they set up. I’m not into tax avoiding, off shore companies at all but that wasn’t who over into Pop as a start up. Restaurants are hugely risky businesses and I imagine there aren’t that many options to find backers to expand

^^ This. Restaurants are closing all over the place at the moment. Brindisa weren't successful in that spot. Calcutta Street closed down (that location on Coldharbour Lane also seems a bit doomed).

 

[T & P]

I can see you think you've got some killer argument ready to unleash here, so let's have it. Yes, I condemn any cunts using off-shore tax avoidance schemes, and they're even more cunty when they've been gifted what was supposedly community space to make their cash.

I condemn any businesses that engage in tax avoidance schemes. How those schemes are achieved makes little difference to the moral bankruptcy of the act itself. The end result is the same.

The premises where the business in question is based might be an aggravating factor, but certainly a small one within the context of the bigger picture, and tax-dodging companies operating out of rented premises are not any less objectionable because of it.

 

[editor]

I condemn any businesses that engage in tax avoidance schemes. How those schemes are achieved makes little difference to the moral bankruptcy of the act itself. The end result is the same.

The premises where the business in question is based might be an aggravating factor, but certainly a small one within the context of the bigger picture, and tax-dodging companies operating out of rented premises are not any less objectionable because of it.

On that we can more or less agree then.

 

[shakespearegirl]

It feels like groundhog day where something
From looking at Companies House, Kricket Soho and Kricket Ltd etc have the same three (seemingly UK based and domiciled) Directors. The ones who get mentioned in press releases about Kricket. They appear to set up a company per restaurant; much like the lovely Antic.

Setting up a company Per venture would be common, means if one venue goes tits up the others don’t go with it

 

[editor]

^^ This. Restaurants are closing all over the place at the moment. Brindisa weren't successful in that spot. Calcutta Street closed down (that location on Coldharbour Lane also seems a bit doomed).

If the only way they can stay open is to be funded by offshore investment investors, fuck them. It's not if Brixton needs endless on-trend, cocktail dispensing restaurants for those with ample cash to spend.

 

[alex_]

So you made it up.

I prefaced it with “possibly”, I’m not sure how I could have made it clearer that I was presenting a hypothesis rather than a fact.

Alex

 

[teuchter]

We all agree the Dogstar and Effra Social are to be 'condemned' on account of their tax dodging parent company then.

 

[alcopop]

We all agree the Dogstar and Effra Social are to be 'condemned' on account of their tax dodging parent company then.

Can we also “condemn” them for not paying London living wage?

 

[editor]

I'm really not sure why petty arseholes think I have any inclination to defend businesses in Brixton that I may be asked to work for occasionally. I'm sure most people have worked for companies with less than perfect work practices, but trying to use that to score personal points against me really is cowardly and pathetic conduct.

 

[teuchter]

Can we also “condemn” them for not paying London living wage?

Condemn them with the strongest disinclination to defend that you can muster.

 

[aka]

It feels like groundhog day where something connected to pop is being critiqued solely because they have a connection to pop.

From looking at Companies House, Kricket Soho and Kricket Ltd etc have the same three (seemingly UK based and domiciled) Directors. The ones who get mentioned in press releases about Kricket. They appear to set up a company per restaurant; much like the lovely Antic. snip

one per restaurant, pub, property, film, etc. is standard practice pretty much - then one failure doesn't bring the whole edifice down.

 

[snowy_again]

Condemn them with the strongest disinclination to defend that you can muster.

So this gets modded but ageist abuse of @teutcher about telegraphs doesn't? And yes, you'll tell me to take it to the mod boards.

 

[editor]

So this gets modded but ageist abuse of @teutcher about telegraphs doesn't? And yes, you'll tell me to take it to the mod boards.

Sorry, was anything reported? I didn't see anything because I don't read every single post. And who/what is 'telegraphs'? And yes, take it to the mods' forum. I'm fucked off with this shitty personal stuff trashing the Brixton forum.

 

[aka]

Sorry, was anything reported? I didn't see anything because I don't read every single post. And who/what is 'telegraphs'? And yes, take it to the mods' forum. I'm fucked off with this shitty personal stuff trashing the Brixton forum.

lol - it was a gag - I've no remote clue how old teuchter is (I did neglect to tag 'em the first time) *takes wordplay back to Faceache*