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Judging scandal rocks Olympic boxing competition - BEIJING (AFP)
(Apols in advance for the C+P from AP).
Boxing officials were battling to contain major scandal on Saturday as serious claims of bribery and the manipulation of Olympic judging panels emerged after a series of disputed bouts.
The International Boxing Association (AIBA) suspended Romanian technical delegate Rudel Obreja after he held an impromptu and rowdy press conference and made lurid allegations against senior officials.
AIBA also revealed that it had been tracking "possible attempts of manipulation" for more than two months and had brought in an International Olympic Committee (IOC) observer "when the situation became more serious".
At a testy media conference late on Friday, AIBA technical delegate Terry Smith was grilled by journalists who questioned a series of Olympic results.
Smith insisted none of the fights was fixed although he said the scoring system, where three out of five judges need to press a button simultaneously for a point to be awarded, was under review.
"I'm quite confident that nothing has affected these bouts," Smith said.
Smith denied Obreja's suspension was a "tit-for-tat" move after the Romanian said a top official was involved in manipulating judging panels and claimed bribery was at work in AIBA presidential elections of 2006.
Obreja's unauthorised news conference earlier ended in chaos when it was interrupted by AIBA secretary-general Ho Kim and the two traded heated remarks.
Obreja had been about to be removed from the commission overseeing the computerised refereeing draw, according to disciplinary official Tom Virgets.
Friday's extraodinary developments accompany a series of ringside controversies which have incensed the boxers and coaches involved.
Frenchman Alexis Vastine screamed and wept after Dominican Felix Diaz was awarded a decisive two-point penalty for holding in the dying seconds of their light welterweight semi-final.
"I've been robbed," said Vastine. "I didn't know that could happen at the Olympics."
Irish light flyweight Paddy Barnes was staggered not to be awarded a single point against Zou Shiming in the Chinese world champion's 15-0 victory.
"The only way I could win here is if the judges got knocked out," he complained.
The Algerian camp had also claimed Ouatah Newfel was unfairly eliminated from the super heavyweight quarter-finals to smooth the path of China's Zhang Zhilei.
Ukrainian fighter Vyacheslav Glazkov, who beat Newfel and was due to face Zhang in the semis, withdrew at the last minute on Friday with an elbow injury.
AIBA's Smith said there had been no foul play, adding Obreja's allegations were "totally wrong".
"I will be the first to admit that not every point scored in boxing is recorded," he said.
"There will be points missed but we know most of the time that the right boxer wins the contest."
Smith added that Obreja's claims were under investigation and that AIBA hoped to settle the matter soon.
"We have got an ongoing investigation and we hope to secure the information we need to bring this to a conclusion," he said.
Disciplinary commission member Virgets also praised the reforms to the AIBA under Taiwanese president Wu Ching-Kuo.
"For 20 years this has been an organisation that has been under a cloud of suspicion but we have seen in the last year or so, under the new reforms, that that suspicion has been largely reduced," Virgets said.
Olympic boxing has a turbulent history including attacks on referees and sit-down protests. At Seoul 1988, Korean boxing officials attacked New Zealand referee Keith Walker, sparking a full-scale riot.
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5i0J3PV86a7dw4ZTn7vPRG1NLLDAQ
(Apols in advance for the C+P from AP).
Boxing officials were battling to contain major scandal on Saturday as serious claims of bribery and the manipulation of Olympic judging panels emerged after a series of disputed bouts.
The International Boxing Association (AIBA) suspended Romanian technical delegate Rudel Obreja after he held an impromptu and rowdy press conference and made lurid allegations against senior officials.
AIBA also revealed that it had been tracking "possible attempts of manipulation" for more than two months and had brought in an International Olympic Committee (IOC) observer "when the situation became more serious".
At a testy media conference late on Friday, AIBA technical delegate Terry Smith was grilled by journalists who questioned a series of Olympic results.
Smith insisted none of the fights was fixed although he said the scoring system, where three out of five judges need to press a button simultaneously for a point to be awarded, was under review.
"I'm quite confident that nothing has affected these bouts," Smith said.
Smith denied Obreja's suspension was a "tit-for-tat" move after the Romanian said a top official was involved in manipulating judging panels and claimed bribery was at work in AIBA presidential elections of 2006.
Obreja's unauthorised news conference earlier ended in chaos when it was interrupted by AIBA secretary-general Ho Kim and the two traded heated remarks.
Obreja had been about to be removed from the commission overseeing the computerised refereeing draw, according to disciplinary official Tom Virgets.
Friday's extraodinary developments accompany a series of ringside controversies which have incensed the boxers and coaches involved.
Frenchman Alexis Vastine screamed and wept after Dominican Felix Diaz was awarded a decisive two-point penalty for holding in the dying seconds of their light welterweight semi-final.
"I've been robbed," said Vastine. "I didn't know that could happen at the Olympics."
Irish light flyweight Paddy Barnes was staggered not to be awarded a single point against Zou Shiming in the Chinese world champion's 15-0 victory.
"The only way I could win here is if the judges got knocked out," he complained.
The Algerian camp had also claimed Ouatah Newfel was unfairly eliminated from the super heavyweight quarter-finals to smooth the path of China's Zhang Zhilei.
Ukrainian fighter Vyacheslav Glazkov, who beat Newfel and was due to face Zhang in the semis, withdrew at the last minute on Friday with an elbow injury.
AIBA's Smith said there had been no foul play, adding Obreja's allegations were "totally wrong".
"I will be the first to admit that not every point scored in boxing is recorded," he said.
"There will be points missed but we know most of the time that the right boxer wins the contest."
Smith added that Obreja's claims were under investigation and that AIBA hoped to settle the matter soon.
"We have got an ongoing investigation and we hope to secure the information we need to bring this to a conclusion," he said.
Disciplinary commission member Virgets also praised the reforms to the AIBA under Taiwanese president Wu Ching-Kuo.
"For 20 years this has been an organisation that has been under a cloud of suspicion but we have seen in the last year or so, under the new reforms, that that suspicion has been largely reduced," Virgets said.
Olympic boxing has a turbulent history including attacks on referees and sit-down protests. At Seoul 1988, Korean boxing officials attacked New Zealand referee Keith Walker, sparking a full-scale riot.
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5i0J3PV86a7dw4ZTn7vPRG1NLLDAQ
ScallyWag II
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ATOMIC SUPLEX
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Justice
So it's a draw now? Don't they need to have another fight?
ScallyWag II
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No, Stevenson goes through to the semis.
ymu
Niall Ferguson's deep-cover sock-puppet
No. A headshot is worth 2 points, so Stevenson won 2-1.
Stevenson's going to have a tough crowd to deal with.
Did you just see the official maing the statement?!
No, I decided to get offline, turn the telly off and do summat else.
That'll learn me
Seems obvious to me that it can only look as if Beijing has been well-and-truly nabbed on this.
Official records showing that 3 of the Chinese gymnasts are underage have been deleted by authorities from the official site, while Passports, birth certificates and other documents have been (quickly manufactured and?) presented to the FIG to "prove" they are 16.
The Chinese are calling this "an insult" and will certainly ratchett up the noise unless this goes away quickly.
It is politically impossible to say that "China" is lying about this. Nobody that matters wants to piss-off Beijing.
Meanwhile, another Chinese gymnast, Yang Yun, has admitted on state owned television that she was just 14 (and, hence, ineligible to compete,) when she won 2 medals in the Sydney 2000 games.
Will she now be stripped of these medals? And will the Chinese gymnastic team or international sports teams suffer any consequences for the cheating?
At the end of the day, I think that the cheating from Sydney 2000 will go without much comment and entirely unpunished and the debacle this year will also fade without repercussions.
In the final analysis, the FIG and the IOC accept passports and birth certificates as "proof" - so once the authorities in China verify that the passports/birth certificates are "genuine", what else is there to be said?
It really is a rum state of affairs.
Woof
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601079&sid=aNi4jJGGFew0&refer=home
Woof
Here are a couple of links to Stryde Hax Blog - the guy who did the research.
The blog, with responses:
http://strydehax.blogspot.com/2008/08/hack-olympics.html
Updates:
http://strydehax.blogspot.com/
Beijing is going mental.
They've deleted all of the official records and are frantically trying to wipe out the various caches (looks like Google and Baidu have gone,) but it seems there are tonnes of mirrors out there.
Woof
The blog, with responses:
http://strydehax.blogspot.com/2008/08/hack-olympics.html
Updates:
http://strydehax.blogspot.com/
Beijing is going mental.
They've deleted all of the official records and are frantically trying to wipe out the various caches (looks like Google and Baidu have gone,) but it seems there are tonnes of mirrors out there.
Woof
CharlieAddict
nekomimi rocks!!!
well...it's impossible to prove she's underage.
got put into consideration that all gymnasts physique are kinda stunted.
and that she's chinese...
angry americans won't let this go...
got put into consideration that all gymnasts physique are kinda stunted.
and that she's chinese...
angry americans won't let this go...
The evidence looks pretty complelling, frankly. Various different official documents from different official institutions - including the National Register of Gymnasts - all listing her birthday as 01/01/1994 - all suddenly disappearing from the web. Numerous reports from the State-owned press at different times, such as the one below from the People's Daily, published on 23rd May 2008 (translated/reprinted from the China Daily).
He (or it may have been one of the other two "suspects",) has been interviewed previously and last year gave her age as 13.
http://english.people.com.cn/90001/90779/90867/6416685.html
All of this stuff has been out there for many, many months uncorrected and suddenly it starts rapidly disappearing.
And, of course, China is doing its utmost to prevent any of its citizens get wind of this. There will be nothing about it in the Chinese media and don't bother trying to use the internet from within the mainland to find anything.
A email received by Stryde Hax, sent from within China:
But, of course, you are right. It's impossible to prove, because Beijing has come up with "passports" and "ID Cards".
Woof
And, of course, this explanation is total and utter bollocks!
It doesn't explain why she has been officially registered with the General Administration of Sport of China, listing her D.O.B. as 01/01/1994, since AT LEAST 2005.
Or why she is also listed with the same D.O.B. with the Beijing Municipal Sports Bureau. And has been registered with the same D.O.B. at the Wuhan Sports Bureau since at least 2004/2005.
These and all other traces of documentation have been deleted/removed from the Chinese government server: www.sport.gov.cn, within the last few days - but are still available on mirrrors if you're willing to have a dig.
These "officials" are telling porkie pies. We are being treated to a classic example of government censorship and state sponsored fraud!
Woof
More........
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-flumenbaum/scandal-of-the-ages-docum_b_118842.html
Are we going to see Yang Yun's medals rescinded by the IOC?
Woof
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-flumenbaum/scandal-of-the-ages-docum_b_118842.html
Are we going to see Yang Yun's medals rescinded by the IOC?
Woof
CharlieAddict
nekomimi rocks!!!
well...it'd be a shame cos she deserved those medals...great winner...great champ...humble as hell too. the american coach was harsh as fuck to all of the chinese competitors - it was as if they wanted to win by default...and i'm glad they did so poorly...
how come china have a rich history of age falsication?
there was only one other story...
and they're pretty new to the games...
how come china have a rich history of age falsication?
there was only one other story...
and they're pretty new to the games...
Dillinger4
Es gibt Zeit
The worst scandal is that David Beckham and Boris Johnson are going to be representing Britain in the closing ceremony.
TrippyLondoner
Well-Known Member
I don't mind Beckham, Boris however...
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
a footballer and a tory toff. fucks sake
TrippyLondoner
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An even worse scandal is the shite music that's been selected for the london party later...fuckin hell.
Dillinger4
Es gibt Zeit
She didn't "deserve those medals".
She was ineligible to compete.
China cheated.
Do you think that drug-cheats should get to keep their medals too?
There are plenty of stories - most of them involving intra-China competitions where competitors lie to enter age-limit competitions.
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1832312,00.html?imw=Y
Woof
Chinese gymnast Yang Yilin, Beijing 2008.
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/08/busted-china-caught-cheating-female.html
Woof
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/08/busted-china-caught-cheating-female.html
Woof
ymu
Niall Ferguson's deep-cover sock-puppet
The problem is, she's a couple of years too young. And that's cheating in gymnastics. There's a reason why younger girls had to be banned from competing; countries were not voluntarily going to give up that advantage.
He Kexin's main advantage on the uneven bars is being able to swing between them at full stretch because she's so tiny. If she's underage, it is cheating.
I'll be heartbroken if she has to hand those medals back - she was wonderful. But China cheated, and that's not fair on the other competitors.
