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Nutritional "advice" entering the Twilight Zone?

All this 'wellness' stuff massively pissess me off, it's dangerous and silly. Ruby Tandoh has written some good articles about it and how the language used around wellness is similar to disordered eating.

Aye. I have a couple of workmates into this shit and I can't be around it, not because I'm prone to disordered eating myself, just that I recognise it when I see it and don't want any part in it. The amount of conversations about food and diet that still goes on amongst adult women in workplaces is worrying.
 
Aye. I have a couple of workmates into this shit and I can't be around it, not because I'm prone to disordered eating myself, just that I recognise it when I see it and don't want any part in it. The amount of conversations about food and diet that still goes on amongst adult women in workplaces is worrying.
Tell me about it. And in my case the 2 worst offenders are men, both very 'into' fitness. If I hear one more conversation about carb cycling or whatever diet plan they are on at the moment I will scream.

They're also very fond of those foul tasting cacoa(sp?) nibs and all sorts of weird plant supplements. Does my head in
 
Aye. I have a couple of workmates into this shit and I can't be around it, not because I'm prone to disordered eating myself, just that I recognise it when I see it and don't want any part in it. The amount of conversations about food and diet that still goes on amongst adult women in workplaces is worrying.

My last place they were obsessed with Huel, the entire office stank of liquidised vinalla flavoured cardboard.
 
I have seen 2 things in the last 24 hours that have really started to make me wonder what the hell is going on with our relationship with food. Ms Gwyneth Paltrow and Mr Pete Evans are currently espousing the benefits of foods that I hardly even recognise as food. I used to consider these people harmless crackpots but I am starting to find their pronouncements more sinister as I feel it has a lot more to do with conspicuous displays of wealth and status than any kind of sound nutritional advice. And it is starting to make me angry.

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Tell me about it. And in my case the 2 worst offenders are men, both very 'into' fitness. If I hear one more conversation about carb cycling or whatever diet plan they are on at the moment I will scream.

They're also very fond of those foul tasting cacoa(sp?) nibs and all sorts of weird plant supplements. Does my head in

To be fair cocoa (or cacao if your name's Imogen) nibs are loaded with caffeine and theobromine. Pro-plus for those with affectations.
 
To be fair cocoa (or cacao if your name's Imogen) nibs are loaded with caffeine and theobromine. Pro-plus for those with affectations.
They still taste disgusting.

Atm its all about the smoothie which are uniformly light brown. I have no idea what's in them. And protein. Lots of stinky mackerel and broccoli at 10am.

I think they are slightly mad.
 
It's all such bullshit and these wankers make me want to stab them in the eyeballs.

Eat food. Any food. Just have a varied and balanced diet and you can eat or drink anything you like. The idea that there are "bad" foods is utter crap. The human body is remarkably good at lookng after itself as long as you don't take the piss.
 
I had activated branflakes for breakfast. (If you don't have unicorn tears in your local Fortnum and Mason's, you can activate them with milk). I use Tesco own brand flakes coz 60p.

To which I added a few sundried grapes ("raisins").

After that I had some activated coffee. (Activated by hot water).
 
I had activated branflakes for breakfast. (If you don't have unicorn tears in your local Fortnum and Mason's, you can activate them with milk). I use Tesco own brand flakes coz 60p.

To which I added a few sundried grapes ("raisins").

After that I had some activated coffee. (Activated by hot water).
As a Scot, at least one of those things should've been deep fried. :hmm:
 
I have been working in a team of 'young people' this year and most of them exclude dairy and wheat from their diets for no other reason than fucking Deliciously Ella (who has no qualifications in nutrition whatsoever) tells them to. This article is really good (albeit long): Why we fell for clean eating

I am virtually the only person who puts milk in tea and coffee, everyone else uses almond (which is appallingly bad for the environment)

Will read that Ruby Tandoh article now
 
I have been working in a team of 'young people' this year and most of them exclude dairy and wheat from their diets for no other reason than fucking Deliciously Ella (who has no qualifications in nutrition whatsoever) tells them to. This article is really good (albeit long): Why we fell for clean eating

I am virtually the only person who puts milk in tea and coffee, everyone else uses almond (which is appallingly bad for the environment)

Will read that Ruby Tandoh article now

I was introduced Deliciously Ella at work too. I used to be part of a very small service which used to involve having to sit with 3 of my workmates while they talked about food. It did my head in. In fact, I said to my supervisor that one of the reasons I didn't want to be involved in that service anymore (amongst other reasons) was that I didn't want to participate in the conversations about fad diets. I have escaped but am still occasionally slipped a new health bar as a treat.
 
Deliciously bloody Ella now has a vegan cafe in Herne Hill. Apparently she is married to Tessa Jowell's son (TJ used to be our MP). The food is actually quite normal - lots of roasted veg and beans and quinoa as you would expect. But also sludgy juices and turmeric lattes and whatnot.

I refuse to engage in conversations about being "bad" or "naughty" when it comes to food. What you eat should never be spoken about in moral terms IMHO.

felixthecat cacao nibs can be great - in a cake!
 
And reading that Ruby Tandoh article, Ella Mills may well distance herself from clean eating as a term but a quick read of her blog tells you it's what's commonly known as clean eating. All 'natural' vegan food. She claims it's vegetarian but she doesn't touch dairy.
 
I have been working in a team of 'young people' this year and most of them exclude dairy and wheat from their diets for no other reason than fucking Deliciously Ella (who has no qualifications in nutrition whatsoever) tells them to. This article is really good (albeit long): Why we fell for clean eating

I am virtually the only person who puts milk in tea and coffee, everyone else uses almond (which is appallingly bad for the environment)

Will read that Ruby Tandoh article now
Bee Wilson is great. It turns out my friend knows her quite well because she's married to one of her colleagues. My friend really likes her.
 
And reading that Ruby Tandoh article, Ella Mills may well distance herself from clean eating as a term but a quick read of her blog tells you it's what's commonly known as clean eating. All 'natural' vegan food. She claims it's vegetarian but she doesn't touch dairy.

Thing is eating a wide range of food that isn't possessed and is possibley organic isn't a bad plan health wise. There is shit loads wrong with our food systems.

It's when it's taken to extremes or pretentious crap like in the OP it becomes an issue.
 
Cordyceps, which any sensible person would assume were dinosaurs, are parasitic fungi which grow on caterpillars' backs. FFS.
 
Deliciously bloody Ella now has a vegan cafe in Herne Hill. Apparently she is married to Tessa Jowell's son (TJ used to be our MP). The food is actually quite normal - lots of roasted veg and beans and quinoa as you would expect. But also sludgy juices and turmeric lattes and whatnot.

I refuse to engage in conversations about being "bad" or "naughty" when it comes to food. What you eat should never be spoken about in moral terms IMHO.
What about if you've just barbecued next door's parakeet? I'd say that was a little bit naughty...
 
Thing is eating a wide range of food that isn't possessed and is possibley organic isn't a bad plan health wise. There is shit loads wrong with our food systems.

It's when it's taken to extremes or pretentious crap like in the OP it becomes an issue.
That's true - I don't have a problem with that as a concept but the idea that coconut milk or oil is intrinsically more healthy is bonkers. If you read that article I linked to, the author got booed for pointing out that coconut sugar is still sugar. Ella Mills claims she cured herself of Postural Tachycardia Syndrome by changing her diet. I don't believe that
 
I feel it has a lot more to do with conspicuous displays of wealth and status than any kind of sound nutritional advice. And it is starting to make me angry.
I have been working in a team of 'young people' this year and most of them exclude dairy and wheat from their diets for no other reason than fucking Deliciously Ella (who has no qualifications in nutrition whatsoever) tells them to. This article is really good (albeit long): Why we fell for clean eating
Brighton Mourns as City’s Last Gluten Tolerant Resident Dies aged 85 :D
 
Thing is eating a wide range of food that isn't possessed and is possibley organic isn't a bad plan health wise. There is shit loads wrong with our food systems.

It's when it's taken to extremes or pretentious crap like in the OP it becomes an issue.
That's what Bee Wilson says in a nutshell.
 
Coincidentally, I was just listening to The Untold on R4 which followed an anorexic teenager for several months. She started off wanting to be "healthy". :(
 
I have a kind of bizarrely selective tourettes disease - whenever someone tells me they're gluten intolerant, I involuntarily say "twat". I've tried to suppress it, but it's like trying to hold back the tide...:(

Bit unfair on people with conditions like Endometriosis that can be helped with a gluten free diet.
 
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