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VERY jealous, davesgcr !

My most recent regular experience of '37's was when they were working push-pull on the west cumbrian route. Sadly those diagrams are no more ...
I could hear them all the way across Whitehaven when we were staying on our boat as they arrived at, or departed from, the station. The cut-off as they went into Corkickle tunnel was very abrupt !

Just occasionally I have seen / heard the track recording duo at work in various places around the country.

[I am sure that they had them on the Consett iron ore workings as well, as I recall, the regulars on that were in "rust" as an add-on livery detail].
 
I did the run around the cumbrian coast while that was still going. And the east anglia ones.

I still see/hear them come past me here in south london quite often on test trains. Most often in the dead of night. Used to come past with the Dungeness nuclear waste quite regularly too - not any more though.
 
For proper filthy noisy Class 37 you need to watch the YouTube vids of them working on the steeply graded high speed line construction in France and Spain in the nineties/noughties, usually triple headed though sometimes with more on the back.



Loads more out there.
 
If anyone's feeling flush...


I wonder if the people who bought it when it went into liquidation a few years ago are now encountering the same problems as the previous owners. I noticed when I passed the other week that restoration of one of the coaches had stalled. Or maybe I'm reading too much into it.
 
If anyone's feeling flush...


I wonder if the people who bought it when it went into liquidation a few years ago are now encountering the same problems as the previous owners. I noticed when I passed the other week that restoration of one of the coaches had stalled. Or maybe I'm reading too much into it.
They look lovely but just a smidge out of my budget

 
the railway inspectorate (or whatever they are called this week) have issued a prohibition on crich tramway museum (or village or whatever)



:eek:
Crich will not be the only place that has/ will have/had STOP orders recently.

The covid induced closures, the rotten winter storms & only a few volunteers / staff available [plus a few other, more long term problems] have resulted in lots of permanent way faults developing. Sadly, these are only now being detected, which results in the closures.
 
Came across this advert in an 1880s book recently. Nice and generous as it is, the offer of free life insurance if you die in a railway accident when you buy a watch seems next level random to me. Can anyone suggest any likely explanation? Were railway accidents that much of a worry at the time or something?

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They’ve had that loco for years, it’s not new. Wonder what they actually mean by ‘100th to enter service’?
It's one of the ones they imported from Germany just recently. So 100th to enter service for GBRf I guess.

Here it is in Germany a few years ago


It's the second to be numbered 66734 - the first one was the one that derailed on the West Highland Line and had to be scrapped.
 
It's one of the ones they imported from Germany just recently. So 100th to enter service for GBRf I guess.

Here it is in Germany a few years ago


It's the second to be numbered 66734 - the first one was the one that derailed on the West Highland Line and had to be scrapped.
Ah right, hadn’t realised they were reusing the number. Makes sense.

They‘ve been the core loco for so long but new ones can’t be built due to not meeting emissions criteria, hence importing from abroad. There’s still some other British ones overseas that could be brought back too, but I think still owned by rival EWS. Not sure what future freight locos will be but electric and bmode most likely. Definitely a shortage given the revival/rebuilding of 60s and 69s etc., in part a lot of new traffic for HS2 construction.
 
More cows on the line. 08.34 Exeter-Okehampton hit a load of them yesterday causing the day's branch service to be suspended.
 
Ah right, hadn’t realised they were reusing the number. Makes sense.

They‘ve been the core loco for so long but new ones can’t be built due to not meeting emissions criteria, hence importing from abroad. There’s still some other British ones overseas that could be brought back too, but I think still owned by rival EWS. Not sure what future freight locos will be but electric and bmode most likely. Definitely a shortage given the revival/rebuilding of 60s and 69s etc., in part a lot of new traffic for HS2 construction.
I kind of think what is basically a bit of a loophole in the emissions rules, should be closed. It allows the operators to rebuild/revive non compliant machines and reduces the incentive to create machines that are up to standard. Supposedly it's difficult to fit all the kit into the UK loading gauge, and the design would have to be specifically for the UK so not a big market. But I always wonder how true that is. If the loophole weren't there, the market would be bigger. It also might provide incentive to use electric more.
The rail freight sector is getting left behind by others as far as emissions are concerned.
 
I kind of think what is basically a bit of a loophole in the emissions rules, should be closed. It allows the operators to rebuild/revive non compliant machines and reduces the incentive to create machines that are up to standard. Supposedly it's difficult to fit all the kit into the UK loading gauge, and the design would have to be specifically for the UK so not a big market. But I always wonder how true that is. If the loophole weren't there, the market would be bigger. It also might provide incentive to use electric more.
The rail freight sector is getting left behind by others as far as emissions are concerned.
They’re also running more freight under the wires with diesel haulage, because of the cost of electricity. Someone should be properly bollocked for that one.
 
They’re also running more freight under the wires with diesel haulage, because of the cost of electricity. Someone should be properly bollocked for that one.

and aren't there little bits of railway that aren't electrified that a lot of freight trains need to use? that isn't really the freight operating companies' fault...
 
and aren't there little bits of railway that aren't electrified that a lot of freight trains need to use? that isn't really the freight operating companies' fault...
That’s one fairly legit reason, but recently they were doing it to save money too. I suspect the steep rise in diesel prices might have skewed it back the other way.

There was a time when they would routinely swap locos when changing from electrified to non-electrified routes (thinking of stuff like the woodhead route, and ’cross country’ loco hauled services into New Street). I think this sometimes still happens at Willesden with some of the freightliner trains which are heading for ports east of London.
 
There was a time when they would routinely swap locos when changing from electrified to non-electrified routes (thinking of stuff like the woodhead route, and ’cross country’ loco hauled services into New Street). I think this sometimes still happens at Willesden with some of the freightliner trains which are heading for ports east of London.

probably easier back when the railways were nationalised and 'inefficient' as locomotives and train crew could work most things, rather than being limited to each freight company's own trains
 
They’re also running more freight under the wires with diesel haulage, because of the cost of electricity. Someone should be properly bollocked for that one.
Yup.
A lot of diesel under wires is just because it's easier though (instead of doing loco swaps, as you say).
Here in south london... There are freight trains that come through from the channel tunnel. Ten years ago they'd be hauled by 92s that (as I'm sure you know) could run on southern third rail electric, and then switch to overhead wires north of London. Now these are hauled by diesel all the way (including through all the densely populated areas of London). The 92s still exist but are kept in a bad state of repair and many have had the third rail capability disabled.
All this presumably because it's just cheaper, maybe only marginally cheaper. Govt could put in place incentives/disincentives to change this. The economics of it might mean that it's not even a heavy nudge that's required.
 
although there were plenty of diesel hauled freight trains in SE London when I was a kitten - can't remember what they all were now, but there was coal 'mgr' (to northfleet cement works?) which was either a pair of 33s, or later a 56; a few varieties of aggregates (ballast to hoo junction?) likewise - again, the 'last mile' wasn't electrified then.
 
although there were plenty of diesel hauled freight trains in SE London when I was a kitten - can't remember what they all were now, but there was coal 'mgr' (to northfleet cement works?) which was either a pair of 33s, or later a 56; a few varieties of aggregates (ballast to hoo junction?) likewise - again, the 'last mile' wasn't electrified then.
Yes and anything to Grain including the quite frequent intermodals from Thamesport.

I think the various electro-diesels were also used much more than the surviving ones are now? Solving the last mile problem.

But I guess the point is that now we are much more aware of issues with air pollution. Cars are going electric, road haulage is still on diesel but mostly with much improved emissions compared to 20 years ago. And passenger rail is increasingly electric or bimode. It's a bit embarrassing that rail freight is getting left behind.
 
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