mass grave of 800 infants found at Galway 'fallen women' home

[farmerbarleymow]

Absolutely abhorrent, discarding these poor kids like rubbish. Yet another example of why the catholic church disgusts me.

I'd like to donate too, so if you get info on the paypal details that'd be great weepiper

 

[scalyboy]

F---ing hell Septic tank? WTF, this is horrific, actually it's like a horror film, what were they thinking of?

Re. memorial plaque fundraising, last line of article says: "to donate to the memorial for the mothers and babies of The Home, contact Catherine Corless at catherinecorless _AT_hotmail.com."

 

[wiskey]

I was going to say that they have added info on donating. What a tragic situation.

 

[likesfish]

Some of those mother and baby homes had a 66% infant mortality rate compared with irelands 6% rate at the time !

 

[friedaweed]

Religion

 

[quiquaquo]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bon_Secours_Sisters

Congregation of the Sisters of Bon Secours is a Roman Catholic religious congregation for nursing (gardes malades), whose object is to care for patients from all socio-economic groups. Reflecting their name ("bon secours" means "good help" in French), the congregation's motto is "Good Help to Those in Need." A septic tank of 796 children and babies who died of malnutrition and disease at a Bon Secours sisters home was discovered at a Bon Secours site in 2014.[1]

 

[Yelkcub]

Ma Yelkcub's from Connemara, County Galway, so to some extent, I'm only a decade or away from 'could have been me' territory. Who's to say, if she hadn't left for London, and had been a little older, she might not of ended up in such a place

Those poor women and poor children.

In years to come people will marvel that the Catholic Church survived this and a million other scandals, and apparently intelligent people continued to have their kids indoctrinated in faith schools.

 

[quiquaquo]

Why isn't this in mainstream media? The link from Wiki above states the mass "grave" was found in 2014. Mainstream media reports child abuse etc in the church so why not this?

 

[AnnaKarpik]

Usually if bodies are found buried in unusual places,our thoughts immediately turn to crime. As they should in this case. Even from the church's point of view, it cannot be right to bury baptised children in a septic tank.

 

[quiquaquo]

Mainstream press has now picked up story in last 30 minutes: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...babies-site-Irish-home-unmarried-mothers.html

 

[fucthest8]

Just completely fucking beggars belief. I'm truly shocked.

 

[Idris2002]

I'm truly shocked.

I'm not.

No Irish person is.

 

[weepiper]

The grave was discovered in the 1970s by 12-year-old friends, Barry Sweeney and Francis Hopkins.

Mr Sweeney said: 'It was a concrete slab and we used to play there but there was always something hollow underneath it so we decided to bust it open and it was full to the brim of skeletons.

'The priest came over and blessed it. I don't know what they did with it after that. You could see all the skulls.'

I feel sick.

 

[Greebo]

<snip> Even from the church's point of view, it cannot be right to bury baptised children in a septic tank.

Agreed - even a pauper's grave could have been done on consecrated ground.

 

[trashpony]

Were they baptised? Or were they considered unworthy given their mothers' fallen status? (I know nothing about Catholicism so apologies if this is ignorant).

Why has there not been an investigation when the bodies were discovered in the 1970s?!

 

[Yelkcub]

Why has there not been an investigation when the bodies were discovered in the 1970s?!

Given it was in Ireland, probably because the Catholic Church said so

 

[trashpony]

Given it was in Ireland, probably because the Catholic Church said so

 

[Yelkcub]

The most shocking thing is it's so recent. It's not some other time and the thinking behind it is still held by many, and implicitly supported by all those who still subscribe to those backward superstitons.

 

[8den]

Were they baptised? Or were they considered unworthy given their mothers' fallen status? (I know nothing about Catholicism so apologies if this is ignorant).

Why has there not been an investigation when the bodies were discovered in the 1970s?!

Of course they were baptised. Sure doesn't the church love all the little children.

 

[8den]

The most shocking thing is it's so recent. It's not some other time and the thinking behind it is still held by many, and implicitly supported by all those who still subscribe to those backward superstitons.

What's shocking is the lack of criminal investigation into this.

 

[Idris2002]

Can something be shocking if it's not surprising?

 

[Idris2002]

This will give you some of the background to what is probably the most dysfunctional society in western Europe:

http://itsapoliticalworld.wordpress...tsourcing-of-responsibility-in-south-ireland/

 

[Chilli.s]

A criminal act, unreported, uninvestigated?

Shocking.

 

[Idris2002]

A criminal act, unreported, uninvestigated?

Shocking.

I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on here.

"Dysfunctional, rotten corrupt society breeds horrible crime - film at 11".

 

[D'wards]

Maybe for a different thread, but in Family Guy (i think) they had a story about time travel and if religion had never existed and therefore had not surpressed science, how by now we'd be living in a Utopia of healthy happy people.

What makes people thing nuns and the like have the skills to bring up children and young/troubled adults? I don't know any, but I should imagine they are pretty weird by definition. To paraphrase Billy Connolly, the desire to be a nun should bar you from life from ever actually being one.

 

[Maurice Picarda]

If you really, really want to make sure that your particular brand of religion hates women and children, go for a celibate clergy every time.

E2A: On reflection, it is unhelpful to the above argument that Buddhist monks are celibate while imams are not.

 

[SpookyFrank]

And catholic organisations are still allowed to run schools. I'd rather get a crocodile to look after my cat than let the catholic church near my child.

 

[Idris2002]

Off that twitter thing the young people are keen on;

Imagine that's your job, your "vocation". Imagine doing that every fortnight or so. Not just any pit mind you, a septic tank.

How many dead infants would you have to stuff in a septic tank before it seemed like a totally normal thing I wonder.

 

[quiquaquo]

Were they baptised? Or were they considered unworthy given their mothers' fallen status? (I know nothing about Catholicism so apologies if this is ignorant).

Why has there not been an investigation when the bodies were discovered in the 1970s?!

Good questions. Probably wrong here as my knowledge of Christianity is indirect but AFAIK according to catholic doctrine babies that die before baptism go to something called "Limbo", not paradise as they aren't yet accredited for it.

Someone needs to be arrested for this. The Mail article mentions the 796 are only those documented and quite probably there are others not documented. Missing death certificates as well. Total corruption between the Church, the State and the medical profession. Fucked up.

 

[DotCommunist]

not anymore, the last pope did away with limbo and purgatory.

This is beyond grim, and I like others am suprised it hasn't made a bigger noise in the news. yet.