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Anyone got any experience of this? Or has anyone even spent a little bit of time there?

A job opportunity has come up and I'm kinda keen to try living in somewhere other than London, at least for a bit.

Is it a bit soul-less? I've only passed through it before so couldnt really form an opinion...
 
Anyone got any experience of this? Or has anyone even spent a little bit of time there?

A job opportunity has come up and I'm kinda keen to try living in somewhere other than London, at least for a bit.

Is it a bit soul-less? I've only passed through it before so couldnt really form an opinion...
Not soulless- some bits can look it (most tourists see the financial district) but the older Chinese bits are still there, you are in easy reach of china etc. I've never lived there but have worked there lots, and have a few friends who live there.... I say go for it, really exciting opportunity
 
do it. go. right now.

it's a cracking place. one of my best friends has just got residency after 10 years out there, settled down and married an Indian lass he met out there and another friend of my wifes has been out there 2 years teaching and he is 100% not the kind of person we thought would get on with it. He has just got engaged to a Sri Lankan lass he met out there.

there is so much to do, only 30% or so is actually city, the rest is national park etc. on the doorstep of Asia, all that stuff.

my main caveat would be that the ex-pat life can be pretty full on. you pretty much drink for the first year or so from what i've seen and go out all the time. the sane ones (imo) move out of mid levels/robinson road area once they are settled and have got that out of their system.

the Mrs and I would go tomorrow if we could, be perfect for us half way between both our families, but babies etc and i would struggle to get in workwise, she'd piss it though as a teacher.
 
i love the place btw, can you tell :D

you can get Mcdonalds delivered by moped as well. whats not to like.
 
do it. go. right now.

it's a cracking place. one of my best friends has just got residency after 10 years out there, settled down and married an Indian lass he met out there and another friend of my wifes has been out there 2 years teaching and he is 100% not the kind of person we thought would get on with it. He has just got engaged to a Sri Lankan lass he met out there.

there is so much to do, only 30% or so is actually city, the rest is national park etc. on the doorstep of Asia, all that stuff.

my main caveat would be that the ex-pat life can be pretty full on. you pretty much drink for the first year or so from what i've seen and go out all the time. the sane ones (imo) move out of mid levels/robinson road area once they are settled and have got that out of their system.

the Mrs and I would go tomorrow if we could, be perfect for us half way between both our families, but babies etc and i would struggle to get in workwise, she'd piss it though as a teacher.

Wow. Sounds cool. I do like the idea of having Thailand etc a short hop away, and also being a kiwi, it brings me a bit closer to my family downunder....

OK, I just sent an email and told them I was up for it. Let's see what happens next :eek: any idea how it works with visas? I guess the employer would sort that?
 
Wow. Sounds cool. I do like the idea of having Thailand etc a short hop away, and also being a kiwi, it brings me a bit closer to my family downunder....

OK, I just sent an email and told them I was up for it. Let's see what happens next :eek: any idea how it works with visas? I guess the employer would sort that?

yeah the employer arranges all that iirc. if you are sponsored it appears to be pretty straightforward to get a visa and then get your ID card etc (which gets you through the airport quicker and is obligatory i think)

going in to the mainland seems harder, my mate goes for work regularly and he goes through passports really quickly as they appear to like a massive full page visa each time they renew his right to enter China. Think he has a UK one with extra pages now or something.

it's on the Air NZ route too, bonus for you.

if you don't like it, just come back as long as that doesn't daunt you as a prospect (it would some people obviously)

good luck whatever you decide to do.

:)
 
PS just make sure you have a good resettlement package as real estate is expensive, especially where you will want to live whilst you settle down. Most of the ex pats converge around Mid Levels/Robinson Road area on the Island to begin with as it is near the action and the Financial District.

rents are expensive but most employers (even the school my Mrs's mate went to) seem to help with accommodation costs to begin with and when you are paying full whack yourself you'll prob want to move a bit further out on the Island (or Kowloon side if you fancy that)

other thing is getting paid in £'s, definitely check how that is going to work for you as it is much less favourable since our currency tanked and make sure you are on a UK T&C's as HK contracts get chuff all holiday, something like 10 - 15 days a year, although they do have more public holidays.

now my mate is a resident and freelance in his field, he gets paid in HK$ and is something like 15% flat rate tax iirc, which i think he finds a bit of a touch..

he also used to get two return tickets home a year - which involved going in to an office for like a day to show his face but then see family etc, but i think those days have probably gone by now.

one last thing, i wouldn't go if you are rubbish at making friends, but i guess you have already emigrated once so that you know :)
 
Not souless at all just a bit too crowded. Most people speak English and buying drinks in bars and pubs is expensive (like 100-150 HKD a bottle) which is like £9-14! Getting around is cheap on the MTR or taxi and food can be cheap if you know where to look. Make sure you buy an Octopus card (like the Oyster card) in fact HK had this 6 years before they hit the London Underground! Lan Kwai Fong is the party place, rammed full of ex-pats and locals looking for a good time. Accommodation is very pricey and expect seriously small apartments for your wedge. Avoid Wanchai at night unless seeing prossies in bars is your scene! Er what else do you want to know? I haven't lived there but it's like my second home!
 
Wanchai is cleaning up a bit apparently. Well so my mate tells me who has moved there. Not entirely convinced....
 
PS just make sure you have a good resettlement package as real estate is expensive, especially where you will want to live whilst you settle down. Most of the ex pats converge around Mid Levels/Robinson Road area on the Island to begin with as it is near the action and the Financial District.

rents are expensive but most employers (even the school my Mrs's mate went to) seem to help with accommodation costs to begin with and when you are paying full whack yourself you'll prob want to move a bit further out on the Island (or Kowloon side if you fancy that)

other thing is getting paid in £'s, definitely check how that is going to work for you as it is much less favourable since our currency tanked and make sure you are on a UK T&C's as HK contracts get chuff all holiday, something like 10 - 15 days a year, although they do have more public holidays.

now my mate is a resident and freelance in his field, he gets paid in HK$ and is something like 15% flat rate tax iirc, which i think he finds a bit of a touch..

he also used to get two return tickets home a year - which involved going in to an office for like a day to show his face but then see family etc, but i think those days have probably gone by now.

one last thing, i wouldn't go if you are rubbish at making friends, but i guess you have already emigrated once so that you know :)
There is a mechanism there where your employer can pay your rent out of your pay before tax- see if your employer offers that, as can really help. I know all about it because it breaks lots of western it systems :D
 
Ok. Spoke to her today. She's a former boss of mine in London who now works out there. I guess I regard her as a friend. She couldn't say much as its an open plan office. She did say the visa would be fine but will take 6 weeks. Which is fine as I've just quit my job and am off travelling for 2 months.

She also said the firm don't offer 'an expat package'. Not quite sure what that means. But she did say I'd be covering my own rent. I've got a final video interview on Wednesday which I think is a formality. Anyway my biggest concern is my partner. She has an Italian passport not a British one. I'm not goin without her. Does she need to get a job lined up first. She's up for it in principle. Are there ways around this?
 
I was very close to moving to HK myself and would of considered applying for a job there again that was perfect for me but didn't because of a new family. I'd recommend living there, but live somewhere a little out of the way that's on the metro line would be my main piece of advice.

You can get her on a dependent type visa, but I'm not sure how easy they are to get. I suppose it's easier if you're from a developed Western country like hers.
 
Where would you recommend in particular? I wouldn't be on a massive salary I don't think. It's not an investment banking job, just graphic design.

I don't think she would be eligible for a dependent visa as we're not married..?
 
People my friend moved out with when his firm moved wholesale out there took girlfriends with them and they got jobs on local contracts with western firms.

So it was certainly possible. You'd need to research with the hk visa people I guess.

One mate lives in the aforementioned Wan Chai now but not near the small strip of dodgy clubs etc and my mate who has been there longer lives in Tin Hau near Victoria Park although they are moving maybe as their favourite dumpling cafe just became a Starbucks and they think it will fill up with ex pats now :D

Sound familiar from brixton forum?!
 
Agree with Dan U though I only ever stay when passing through (in HK at the minute). Have considered living here myself if it ever gets too hard to stay in Beijing.
 
Hong Kong is fantastic. I love the place. It is very very pricey for some things (accommodation, car) and cheap for food, transport, clothes.

Go for it, but get the package worked out. You can easily live out in the country and commute in if you want more space and somewhere cheaper.
 
Any suggestions for job sites my partner could check out? She works in media but I reckon she'd consider other areas.

Thanks for all the info so far btw. This is all kinda sudden, but why not I say.
 
Hong Kong is all about contacts. You can usually get a decent amount of time without a visa so your girlfriend can turn up and start making enquiries.
 
Not souless at all just a bit too crowded. Most people speak English and buying drinks in bars and pubs is expensive (like 100-150 HKD a bottle) which is like £9-14!
I was there late last year and didn't find the beer as expensive as that. I didn't drink much but was paying around 60 dollars for a pint of lager.

I was very surprised and impressed with Hong Kong and would like to return one day.
 
I was there late last year and didn't find the beer as expensive as that. I didn't drink much but was paying around 60 dollars for a pint of lager.

I was very surprised and impressed with Hong Kong and would like to return one day.

Maybe because I out in TST, tends to be a bit more expensive and LKF. Wanchai probably is a bit cheaper for drinking.
 
Most people speak English and buying drinks in bars and pubs is expensive (like 100-150 HKD a bottle) which is like £9-14!

HKD 150 a bottle? Were you drinking at the bar on top of ICC? :D I pay 25 a bottle in my local on Cheung Chau and rarely more than twice that in town.

Gabi, Geoxpat is no Urban75 but their forums are meant to be pretty good for "getting started in HK" questions.

http://hongkong.geoexpat.com/forum/
 
I live on Lamma island when I worked in Hong Kong as a journalist. About 40 minutes by ferry from the central district. It had its own nightlife and bars which was in many ways cooler and slightly less intense than stuff going on in the centre of town. This was back in the mid-1990s though. Might have changed.
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I live on Lamma island when I worked in Hong Kong as a journalist. About 40 minutes by ferry from the central district. It had its own nightlife and bars which was in many ways cooler and slightly less intense than stuff going on in the centre of town. This was back in the mid-1990s though. Might have changed.

Lamma was great in the mid-90s and it's still pretty good in many ways but you'd find it hard to recognize now - fast ferries now go to Central in 20 minutes and there's been a big influx of people and a quadrupling of rents. The Deli Lamma was the center of Lamma life as I knew it but even that shut down a year or two ago.
 
HKD 150 a bottle? Were you drinking at the bar on top of ICC? :D I pay 25 a bottle in my local on Cheung Chau and rarely more than twice that in town.

Gabi, Geoxpat is no Urban75 but their forums are meant to be pretty good for "getting started in HK" questions.

http://hongkong.geoexpat.com/forum/

Thanks for that. I had a fairly lengthy but frank interview with the HR guy there yesterday and he also mentioned that site in terms of picking up cheap furniture from departing expats.

Looks like this might go ahead. Still not 100% sure I'm ready to leave London. But I figure I'll give it a year. I still have to do two more interviews.

The life the hr guy described didn't sound too bad. He said he's paying £1300 a month for a one bedroom place which isn' that far off London. Was he exaggerating?
 
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