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But....but cLoWnFiSh....
Although re-reading it, I didn't exactly make it very clear.
Lambeth local elections 2010 thread
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Although re-reading it, I didn't exactly make it very clear.
ajdown
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The fact that I am aware of the dangers of cycling, and therefore choose not to cycle, does put me in a position where I am in fact able to question other people's choice - rather than "dismiss their concerns" as you put it.
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But....but cLoWnFiSh....
The principle "danger of cycling" is motorists and their driving behaviour - specifically eg speeding, driving on while on their phone, jumping red lights etc etc.
Yet I have never seen any sign whatsoever that you are "aware" of these dangers since you confine yourself to sneering at cyclists and are clearly either unaware of them or choosing to overlook them.
Given your BNP-style obsession with muslims etc I'm pretty clear that you have an agenda and that it's the latter. Crawl back into your hole.
But if you're aware of the dangers of cycling, and therefore choose not to cycle,
why say "there's no need to be nervous of traffic"?
What are the dangers of cycling if traffic isn't a concern?
ajdown
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... and that's somehow worse than cyclists going through red lights, weaving in and out of moving traffic, riding on the pavement, not being aware of those around them, etc etc etc?
I've seen cyclists riding whilst using mobile phones - or walkie-talkies - too.
You also have the added danger that there is no training required to ride a bicycle, no roadworthy test, nor insurance. I accept that being hit by a vehicle is likely to be more painful to a pedestrian than being hit by a cyclist, but that's not really the point.
Gixxer1000
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The fact that you are actually a suburban actuary or whatever .
No I also chose an macho career to compensate for having a small willy or whatever
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But....but cLoWnFiSh....
No I also chose an macho career to compensate for having a small willy or whatever
Well I didn't mean you personally, I thought that was clear from my post. I was talking about my generic and horribly generalised 4x4 driver.
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But....but cLoWnFiSh....
Yes, rather obviously worse since it kills and injures thousands of people every year. Complicated stuff this, isn't it?
I must admit though, it gets on my nerves when I see cyclists ignoring red lights, ignorantly speeding off across a busy junction while the traffic is beginning to move across it in the other direction, etc. I cycle so I know there are some exceptions but that kind of attitude does make us look bad.
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But....but cLoWnFiSh....
Oh it annoys the crap out of me, I just resent seeing it used as an excuse for car drivers to do the same.
But then I'm middle-aged, a red light is quite a good breather these days.
ajdown
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Not once have I said that jumping red lights is ok for car drivers to do. Red lights are there for a reason, and be it cars, bikes or pedestrians, obey them.
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But....but cLoWnFiSh....
Funny, I constantly see you posting about bikes doing it and absolutely never about cars doing it. It's almost like you're talking bullshit when you say,
100% masahiko
i is a professor and is magical like totoro
ajdown - did a cyclist fuck your wife or something?
You have such an irrational hatred that's all.
Makes one wonder...
You have such an irrational hatred that's all.
Makes one wonder...
Gramsci
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Quite possibly.
I'd say there are reasons to believe that 4x4s in a place like London will attract a certain type of aggressive/defensive driver. These cars are certainly advertised and sold (and presumably therefore bought) on emotional grounds - they embody "escape", "freedom", "safety". The grim rational reality of urban driving offers none of these things. They certainly aren't bought for going off-road etc.
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SUVs or 4 by 4s arent so popular now as they were. In fact in London they attracted the well off school run mum (Chelsea Tractors) . Who were not agressive drivers. As u say the adverts they fell for were that they felt safer in the Urban Jungle in a 4 by 4.
The other driver who have them are for status symbols. Mainly Range Rovers.
In this country 4 by 4 arent imo driven by aggressive drivers. In the USA SUV-the very name conjures up hunting etc- is for a different market.
Returning to the Lambeth local elections - does anyone know if there have been any changes in the Lib Dem Group? I believe they were due to meet last night for the first time and I was wondering if there were any mumourings of doubt about Ashley Lumsden's leadership given that he lost five seats on Lambeth and in the general election the Lib Dems didnt noticebaly do very well around these parts
Tricky Skills
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Dear old Kingsley Abrams, Labour's councillor for Vassall, has been suspended from the party, following an internal investigation
Dear old Kingsley Abrams, Labour's councillor for Vassall, has been suspended from the party, following an internal investigation
It's not illegal for pedestrians, and looks like it will soon be legal for cyclists to jump red lights when turning left (Boris is up for the idea apparently).
Some cyclists do just jump lights for hell of it, but a lot do it on in circumstances where not doing so is potentially very dangerous.
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Dear old Kingsley Abrams, Labour's councillor for Vassall, has been suspended from the party, following an internal investigation
This is mentioned in today's paper http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/may/25/hugh-muir-diary
The police are reporting that they have seized his computer.
Evening Standard have the story:
Councillor resigns after porn arrest
Justin Davenport, Crime Correspondent
26.05.10
A London Labour councillor has been arrested by police on suspected child porn charges.
Toren Smith, 42, was arrested at his home and questioned before being released on bail. His computer was seized for further examination. He has resigned his Lambeth council seat.
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