Lambeth local elections 2010 thread
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Er, I know it's Dr Obi, that's why i mentioned his name!
If Rahoul is saying that Dr Obi was in Chuka's camp he is mistaken (try and search the internet for a link between Chuka Umunna and Dr Obi)
Tricky Skills
Well-Known Member
This is the claim from Rahoul:
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I understand that you are being spammed by Dr Obi / @LondonElections on Twitter.
Please can I state for the record that Dr Obi has absolutely nothing to do with my campaign nor is he (to my knowledge) a member of the Conservative Party. I understand that at one point he supported Chuka's campaign and fell out hence transferring his allegiance to me.
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Either way - he's a nutter...
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I understand that you are being spammed by Dr Obi / @LondonElections on Twitter.
Please can I state for the record that Dr Obi has absolutely nothing to do with my campaign nor is he (to my knowledge) a member of the Conservative Party. I understand that at one point he supported Chuka's campaign and fell out hence transferring his allegiance to me.
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Either way - he's a nutter...
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Duncan from Green Party hard at it canvassing outside Tescos tonight.
http://lambeth.greenparty.org.uk/
http://lambeth.greenparty.org.uk/
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Tricky Skills
Well-Known Member
Speaking of the Greens...
Lambeth Labour have continued to smear the party in Herne Hill, fearful of that the Greens may build upon their seat won back in 2006. The eve of election leaflet from our friend Jim Dickson talks of how Lambeth Greens want to:
"Legalise class A drugs and turn Herne Hill into a South London drugs supermarket."
There's another complete lie in claiming that the Greens are against the 20 mph speed limit. As you would expect, the exact opposite is the truth.
Pretty sickening stuff from Labour and Dickson.
Lambeth Labour have continued to smear the party in Herne Hill, fearful of that the Greens may build upon their seat won back in 2006. The eve of election leaflet from our friend Jim Dickson talks of how Lambeth Greens want to:
"Legalise class A drugs and turn Herne Hill into a South London drugs supermarket."
There's another complete lie in claiming that the Greens are against the 20 mph speed limit. As you would expect, the exact opposite is the truth.
Pretty sickening stuff from Labour and Dickson.
g force
Affects Shatner's Basoon
This is the claim from Rahoul:
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I understand that you are being spammed by Dr Obi / @LondonElections on Twitter.
Please can I state for the record that Dr Obi has absolutely nothing to do with my campaign nor is he (to my knowledge) a member of the Conservative Party. I understand that at one point he supported Chuka's campaign and fell out hence transferring his allegiance to me.
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Either way - he's a nutter...
Yep his Twitter claims the Tories will win in Streatham
Tricky Skills
Well-Known Member
The lone heckler at the Clegg event in Streatham this week was later seen... boarding the Tory battle bus
Jean-Luc
Well-Known Member
Surprised you haven't blown your own trumpet again and advised those who haven't yet made up their mind how to vote to visit this site.The lone heckler at the Clegg event in Streatham this week was later seen... boarding the Tory battle bus
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
The lone heckler at the Clegg event in Streatham this week was later seen... boarding the Tory battle bus
Wolfgang is right about Cleggs wife.
Out of the 3 she is the hottest
Talking out nasty campaigning from Nu Labour . Came home last night and there was postcard from Tessa. On it prominently was that LDs want to give "illegal immigrants" an amnesty. No comment about why this was good or bad policy. Just there a sentence on its own.
Considering Gordon called that Old Labour voter a bigot for asking about East European migration I think this is obvious ploy to play to anti immigrant voters.If the Labour party are concerned about bigotry they shouldnt play on it.
Jean-Luc
Well-Known Member
Why do you think Brown spent such time apologising to that bigoted woman if he didn't want the bigoted vote?
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
I dont now if she was "bigoted". All she did was try to raise the question of migration.
I have East European friends here. I was making East European friends that had come to London whilst people from the Labour party were denying they were coming here in large numbers.
I dont think its bigoted to raise the issue. The Government should have helped local Councils with more funds to deal with this influx. They didnt despite saying it was good for the economy.
What I meant in my post is that these Nu Labour types often in public pander to anti immigrant vote whilst in private holding liberal views.
The lady also said that she was lifelong Labour and raised other issues first like student fees.
I read the transcript of what Brown said and he clearly wasnt happy to talk to someone who was Old Labour.
Multiculturalism back in the 80s included class. That was ditched by Nu Labour. The kind of multiculturalism they favour is that of the City. Read financial papers to see City types favour a globalised neo liberal world. "Flexible" labour and "Free" markets from New York to London To Shanghia.
No wonder some ordinary working people become concerned about immigration. Or for that matter the outsourcing of there jobs to China and Eastern Europe.
I have East European friends here. I was making East European friends that had come to London whilst people from the Labour party were denying they were coming here in large numbers.
I dont think its bigoted to raise the issue. The Government should have helped local Councils with more funds to deal with this influx. They didnt despite saying it was good for the economy.
What I meant in my post is that these Nu Labour types often in public pander to anti immigrant vote whilst in private holding liberal views.
The lady also said that she was lifelong Labour and raised other issues first like student fees.
I read the transcript of what Brown said and he clearly wasnt happy to talk to someone who was Old Labour.
Multiculturalism back in the 80s included class. That was ditched by Nu Labour. The kind of multiculturalism they favour is that of the City. Read financial papers to see City types favour a globalised neo liberal world. "Flexible" labour and "Free" markets from New York to London To Shanghia.
No wonder some ordinary working people become concerned about immigration. Or for that matter the outsourcing of there jobs to China and Eastern Europe.
co-op
But....but cLoWnFiSh....
Lambeth "Labour" paty have been putting a really creepy letter through doorboxes in Stockwell, printed in a very realistic, slightly wobbly 'handwriting' and beginning "Dear Neighbour", ostensibly from a little old lady who lives up the road and is scared witless at the prospect of the £1500 Lib-Dem Council Tax increase (that "Labour" have made up). "She" is practically begging me to vote Labour. It's real 'Buy This Magazine or We Shoot the Puppy' stuff.
It's probably obvious from most of my posts on the various election threads that I am pissed off with Lambeth "Labour" - I didn't realise how bad it was until I got this letter. I have voted Labour in every local election in Lambeth since 1986, never even really questioned that, dobbed the Greens a couple of votes in mayoral and GLA elections where these wouldn't be wasted, but there is absolutely no way I'm voting Lambeth Labour today. I hope they get utterly shafted for their nasty, right-wing, smear and scare views and for their greedy, self-serving public school wankers of councillors.
I have literally not heard one positive statement of belief from a Lambeth Labour councilor or member, it's just fear.
Dammit I have seriously thought about going Lib-Dem despite swearing terrible oaths never to forgive them for the SDP and giving us an extra 10 years of Thatcher.
It's probably obvious from most of my posts on the various election threads that I am pissed off with Lambeth "Labour" - I didn't realise how bad it was until I got this letter. I have voted Labour in every local election in Lambeth since 1986, never even really questioned that, dobbed the Greens a couple of votes in mayoral and GLA elections where these wouldn't be wasted, but there is absolutely no way I'm voting Lambeth Labour today. I hope they get utterly shafted for their nasty, right-wing, smear and scare views and for their greedy, self-serving public school wankers of councillors.
I have literally not heard one positive statement of belief from a Lambeth Labour councilor or member, it's just fear.
Dammit I have seriously thought about going Lib-Dem despite swearing terrible oaths never to forgive them for the SDP and giving us an extra 10 years of Thatcher.
Local election results coming in from 4 today - follow them on the Lambeth Labour twitter stream - http://twitter.com/lambethlabour
happyshopper
Well-Known Member
Results
Still no results here http://www.lambeth.gov.uk/moderngov/mgElectionResults.aspx?ID=7&V=1&RPID=8754773
But given the swing to Labour since the GLA election from both Tories and Liberal Democrats, it does look like Labour will keep control of the Council.
Still no results here http://www.lambeth.gov.uk/moderngov/mgElectionResults.aspx?ID=7&V=1&RPID=8754773
But given the swing to Labour since the GLA election from both Tories and Liberal Democrats, it does look like Labour will keep control of the Council.
psycherelic
I'm not an old hippy!
Greens out in Herne hill 
buscador
culturally dominant
Greens out in Herne hill
Looks like the Labour dirty tricks worked then. Very disappointing.
Brixton Hatter
Home is south London mate
that's pretty disappointing. but at least it looks like the lib dem/tory pact aint gonna get inGreens out in Herne hill
psycherelic
I'm not an old hippy!
looking like a good night for Labour, they've gained a seat from the tories in Thurlow park
twistedAM
Left Of The Dial
Three Labour gains from the Camerons in Gipsy Hill. It's always been Tory as far as I can remember.
Labour keep control of Lambeth - http://www.lambeth.gov.uk/Elections2010/
I have been following the Tricky Skils (I think its him anyway) Twitter feed - http://twitter.com/jason_cobb - very informative and quick with the results when announced
I have been following the Tricky Skils (I think its him anyway) Twitter feed - http://twitter.com/jason_cobb - very informative and quick with the results when announced
co-op
But....but cLoWnFiSh....
I don't think it necessarily came down to that; the Greens increased their vote by 25% and all three of their candidates got a higher vote than the highest vote won by any of the parties in 2006 - if this had just been a local election they'd have ?maybe taken all three seats.
They got washed away by the tide of Labour voters who came out for the General Election and then voted Labour locally.
It doesn't make Labour's sleazy little campaign any less disappointing though.
Jean-Luc
Well-Known Member
What's wrong with that? Surely this shows the Greens up as a minority seeking to impose restrictions on people's consumption which have very little popular support and which they only have a chance of pushing through on the basis of ordinary people abstaining massively from voting in local elections as they normally do.
WarmharbourLane
New Member
I suspect the opposite is true.
Labour won Herne Hil because lots of those who know and care little about the council came out to vote for their Labour tribe due to the General Election. Whilst there they realised they'd been given a yellow sheet too, so ticked any Labour rose they saw on there.
The reason why council elections have a lower turnout than national is that less people are bothered about local politics (that and the disparity in media attention). May 6th was essentially two General Elections on the same day in London in terms of how people voted. On an individual election I suspect the Greens would have taken Herne Hill, as only those with at least a vague interest in local politics would have bothered to get off their sofa and vote. So a large chunk of the pre-programmed Labour tribe who wouldn't dirty their hands with a local election ballot paper would have been nowhere to be seen to skew the result.
WarmharbourLane
New Member
The turnout from foreign nationals will be relatively low - particularly the more recent arrivals from Eastern Europe. Many of them will simply have no interest in English politics in general, and even less in local politics. And when they do it'll probably be to the extent of who will charge them the least council tax (you'd be amazed at how well-up the young transient Polish comunity is on the different council tax rates in various boroughs).
Even long established international communities in Lambeth - like the Portuguese - show limited interest in voting locally. They tend to retain more interest in politics back home.
The Lib Dem policy on the existing illegal immigrants is fair and sensible in my view, and a classsically 'liberal' policy, but it is electorally stupid. It's too easy to be misrepresented and the people it benefits most aren't even eligible to vote for it ! So it should be one of those positive things that a party aims to do if it gets into power, but has the sense to not tell people about in advance.
co-op
But....but cLoWnFiSh....
There's nothing wrong with it imo - and that's why I didn't say there was.
But your characterisation of the Green's policies (and their level of support for that matter) is rubbish. The people who turned out en masse to vote Labour on Thursday are exactly those people whose consumption levels are no problem at all - they are poor and already consume much less than the average.
It's the millionaires like James Chatterton-Dickson and co. whose consumption patterns are the problem. What's so sad is that the Chatterson-Dicksons can snap their fingers and get a working class electorate to vote them back in so that they can continue screwing them by jacking up rents, blocking attempts (by the Green Party's one councillor) to insist that Council Sub-contractors pay the London Living Wage while at the same time they are freezing Council Tax so that the richest people in our borough can get even richer.
You sound like a Labour Party activist to me - but what on earth you are doing defending this kind of tory crap is beyond me. Normally we do it because there is no alternative - but the Greens provide exactly that an electable genuine social-democratic party.
And that's before you get on to what a sleazy campaign Lambeth Labour fought this year (against everyone, not just the Greens). Their only instinct is self-preservation and re-election - there are no principles, no ideals to fight for, whatsoever.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Do u read peoples posts or are u a troll?
Jean-Luc
Well-Known Member
Yes I've read yours and noted that while you are not a member of the "send them back" brigade you do line up with those who say "stop them coming". But what's wrong with the Poles? What harm have they done anyone? They're only workers coming here to try to get a better living.
Jean-Luc
Well-Known Member
But the policies favoured by the Greens would make some things more expensive for them, e.g. having to shop at local shops rather than supermarkets or by increased energy bills or by increasing the cost of running a car.
No I'm not a Labour Party supporter but I do believe in democracy and that councillors elected on a low poll have less legitimacy than those elected on a higher poll (incidentally it was the higher turn-out that wiped out the BNP in Barking). Having said this I think that some electoral reform can be justified. Personally I'd favour smaller one-member wards with councillors elected by the Alternative Vote. Councillors would then be both more representative and closer to the electors.
