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Lambeth attempts to cancel Cannabis Festival

I am now really confused.

Has Lambeth actually taken any licensing decision, which is "quasi-judicial", governed by the Licensing Acts, and would be open to all sorts of legal challenge if Lambeth had deviated from the laid-down procedures.

Looking at the Lambeth Press Statement:

It is for these reasons that we have refused the Cannabis Coalition permission to hold their event in Brockwell Park.

So does this mean they have only refused permission to use an open space that they control - which is governed only by Lambeth Parks events policy. My hazy knowledge of administrative law is that this could only be challenged if they can be proved to have acted unreasonably. :confused:
 
AS a Lambeth resident, but total lay person, I am really angry at the way this decision has been made. It sounds to me as if they were frightened to go through normal proceedures because if the did, they might not get there own way. This seems most undemocratic. Just who exactly do these officials think they are serving?
I am still yet to recieve a reply from either Whelan, perhaps they dont deem it necessary to give me any explanation at all, but this festival is very popular within the community, extreamly well run and it is a great loss to Lambeth IMO.
I wonder, has the council thought what will happen when the march arrives at Brockwell park? Is Lambeth planning to lock the gates on this day?
Because actually, I can see the festival going ahead anyway, just without stewards and all the support infastructure that would otherwise be provided by this excellent not for profit organisation.
 
It does seem very shortsighted. If all these people turn up at the park with no discernable organisation, I could imagine it being quite chaotic.... even if they don't turn up... it will be a lot of people milling around Brixton with no discernable aim...other than, perhaps, to party. The pubs might like it, but I bet it will cause a load more hassle than having everyone in the one place and supervised!!!

Are they just planning to ban it? Do they have some kind of alternative plan??

All very strange...
 
Lambeth will have a representative at the Cannabis March planning
meeting on Monday with the Police and March Organiser.
 
aurora green said:
AS a Lambeth resident, but total lay person, I am really angry at the way this decision has been made. It sounds to me as if they were frightened to go through normal proceedures because if the did, they might not get there own way. This seems most undemocratic. Just who exactly do these officials think they are serving?
I am still yet to recieve a reply from either Whelan, perhaps they dont deem it necessary to give me any explanation at all, but this festival is very popular within the community, extreamly well run and it is a great loss to Lambeth IMO.
I wonder, has the council thought what will happen when the march arrives at Brockwell park? Is Lambeth planning to lock the gates on this day?
Because actually, I can see the festival going ahead anyway, just without stewards and all the support infastructure that would otherwise be provided by this excellent not for profit organisation.

Been following this thread but not posting much. Completely agree with aurora here.

But I'm a Southwark resident -- is it a waste of time for me to email Lambeth councillors? Won't they just be even more likely to dismiss/ignore out of area messages?
 
BROCKWELL said:
Lambeth will have a representative at the Cannabis March planning
meeting on Monday with the Police and March Organiser.

What's the point of that? They've already decreed they're not going to allow a proper festival ...
 
It's about the march, I think

So, I guess a question will come up about what the fuck 20 000 people are going to do when they get to the end of it?

I hope something good comes of it

:)
 
lang rabbie said:
I am now really confused.

Has Lambeth actually taken any licensing decision, which is "quasi-judicial", governed by the Licensing Acts, and would be open to all sorts of legal challenge if Lambeth had deviated from the laid-down procedures.

Looking at the Lambeth Press Statement:

It is for these reasons that we have refused the Cannabis Coalition permission to hold their event in Brockwell Park.



So have they only refused permission to use an open space that they control - which is governed only by Lambeth Parks events policy. My hazy knowledge of administrative law is that this could only be challenged if they can be proved to have acted unreasonably. :confused:

So sue the fuckers????? :D :p
 
Statement from the Brixton Cannabis Coalition

Statement from the Brixton Cannabis Coalition 2nd March 2005

Lambeth Council try to ban 7th annual Cannabis march and festival

The Brixton Cannabis Coalition regrets the decision taken by Lambeth Council to ignore the agreed public events policy and try to ban the annual Cannabis March and Festival on Saturday 7th May because of cannabis dealers at last years Festival.

Instead of the application for a licence being taken by the relevant licensing committees the decision has been made by Cllr Clare Whelan, Tory Executive member for Environment and ratified by the Executive. This is contrary to Cllr Whelan’s statement to the Executive on 4th November 2004. “If an application is received the outcome will be determined in line with the events policy and the decision of the relevant quasi-judicial Licensing Committee“.
The Police and festival organisers were not consulted on the ban.

The Brixton Cannabis Coalition request that our application is dealt with in the normal way. We ask supporters to sign the petition at www.thecannabisfestival.co.uk We also acknowledge and share Council concerns regarding cannabis dealers during the march and festival. This is a problem for us and any large open access event in Brockwell Park.
The organisers have requested police action, as in previous years, to deter dealers, but have ultimately no direct control over what they do or how they prioritise the issue of dealers.
We invite Lambeth Council officers to join the Police and the Coalition to work through these problems in a planning meeting on 11am Monday 7th March at Frank O’Neil House, Clapham Road.

Over the last 6 years the Council have taken the Festival to court twice for alleged minor licencing violations, both times we were found not guilty, then doubled the cost of using the Park by charging us a commercial price. This year the Council has not even allowed us to put our proposals before the Licencing Committee. This is against the agreed Parks event policy. This is political football in Lambeth.

Last year the Cannabis festival attracted only 4 public complaints, - based on noise, 7 arrests – one for dealing and was enjoyed by many thousands of people. We think there is a question of balance.

In a sane and tolerant society we would be consulted and recognised for putting on a safe and free event, instead Lambeth Council have made no attempt to overcome this problem but simply use it as a means to prohibit us.

We recognise that Cllr Whelan and the Executive may have more than technical problems with us. We suspect their reasons may be political. We may not fit in with their politics, their corporate, public relations driven, glossy vision of Lambeth.

The influx of West Indians from the 50’s, young urban professional clubbers and pragmatic policing in the 90’s, has given Lambeth reputation as a progressive, culturally rich and diverse area. We are part of this diversity.

We invite the Council to work with us and the police to overcome these issues, however if they refuse and simply try to prohibit the march and festival then we accuse the Executive of being intolerant of diversity.

We note the media’s reaction to the Council’s ban has already increased the size of the march. Presumably people will want to do something after the march. The question for the Executive is do they want it done licenced or unlicenced. A bit like the sale of cannabis really.

ENDS

Note.
Lambeth Council is run by the Lib Dems and the Tories.
Tory policy is to re-classify cannabis back to class B.
 
internal security..

christ isnt it simple ?

why do all the tents not team in to get thier own security - local clubs/bars teams to escort dealers.

nab / hold them and get the cops to collect ??!!

:cool:
 
Yeah well, if thats anything to go by, you can understand why they're keeping quiet. :D
It's not good enough though, its flaming outrageous. Guess I'll wait a few days and then try again.
 
update on emails

aurora green said:
Ok, so all these guys have failed to reply to my email so far. I mean sometimes I wonder what is the point of trying to engage with these people. :rolleyes:

has anyone else had any luck?
Red Jezza said:
well Brixton hatter had more than a bit of luck! :D
(see post 70). I'm going to do mine this weekend
Well after Mr Whelan's lovely reply to me (see post 70), I wrote back to him asking whether he would actually apologise and send me a proper reply addressing my points. He obviously didn't mean to copy me in to his original email because he has now sent me a grovelling reply to apologise. :D APparently I'll get a proper reply in due course.

I understand that the SLP and the Streatham Guardian are on the case and may now cover this story.
 
aurora green said:
Cllr John Whelan jwhelan@lambeth.gov.uk
Cllr Clare Whelan cwhelan@lambeth.gov.uk
Cllr Anthony Bottrall abottrall@lambeth.gov.uk
Cllr Roger Giess rgiess@lambeth.gov.uk



Ok, so all these guys have failed to reply to my email so far.
I mean sometimes I wonder what is the point of trying to engage with these people. :rolleyes:

has anyone else had any luck?

Is there even less point if you're not a Lambeth resident, would my emails be immediately ignored cos I'm in Southwark?? :confused:
 
For some reason, despite praising Shane and his mates a few posts down from post 159, I missed the petition aspect ... it was very late ;) on Thursday though :oops:

... am now about to vote :)
 
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