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But there are perhaps thousands and thousands atm
John Bercow ex Speaker of HoCs
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planetgeli
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Urban myth. He never had the balls to do that.
He was Chair of FCS when they produced those t-shirts. He wouldn't have dared to wear one at Essex.
brogdale
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Not quite sure that describing it as an urban myth is the most accurate interpretation?
His leadership of the group responsible for the production, distribution and wearing of the "Hang Mandela" tee-shirts and posters was never disputed, it's just that no-one has ever produced any actual evidence of Bercow wearing his group's merch.
As I said earlier, his secretaryship of the Monday Club's repatriation and immigration committee is equally troubling.
in which case, it's probably best to not say that he wore a hang mandela shirt. as you say, there's plenty of stuff you can hang on him without having to stray into conjecture.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
We have his word that he didn't.
and a total lack of any evidence pointing to him wearing one, or anyone claiming to have seen him in one. so stick with the things you have at least some evidence for, or you end up with really dull back and forths like this. it's pretty basic stuff this isn't it?
planetgeli
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And mine. I was there, same course, same classes. Saw too much of the cunt. But never in one of those t-shirts.
brogdale
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Fair enough, but were you present at the FCS events where the shirts were worn?
planetgeli
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The FCS events never took place at Essex university. At least not in any meaningful way beyond a dozen students in a locked room. So no, the impression that 'he wore Hang Nelson Mandela t-shirts at university' is a false one.
planetgeli
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He did organise two big FCS events at Essex. Got Teddy Taylor to come and speak, who was infantile. And Cecil Parkinson, who was run off campus - creating lots of froth in the Daily Mail the next day. I think Bercow wore a suit for both.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Happy to accept that Bercow was too craven to even of think of wearing his group's vile merch on campus at Colchester, but it's quite believable that the nasty little cunt did when in a safe space with his racist mates.
this misunderstands the whole point of making t-shirts like this. they aren't for wearing in private.
brogdale
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Not at all convinced by that take.
Tories or Tory voters?
I took the comment to mean Tory politicians, like Bercow.
Either way, the problem in this country, assuming support of the current voting system (whcih I do not, but it's the only game in town for now), is the left is split.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
You're right that we don't have to state that Bercow did wear the shirt, but it doesn't stop it being perfectly believable that the nasty little cunt did with other cunty, racists in the safety of their FCS events so that they could get off on how edgy and iconoclastically right-wing they were.
That's all.
Tankus
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I don't think Jesus would be in for much of a shout , either ........
Wilf
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That's generally true about political/'statement' t-shirts, though not necessarily for shall we say 'extreme' t-shirts. I'd have thought the twats who owned this particular t-shirt were all about horrifying the left within their narrow university circles or were part of the battles within the tory right. T-shirts are sometimes worn to influence/horrify particular audiences, they are not always on the pile of random shirts you crawl into each day. Not disagreeing with you about Bercow mind.
Argonia
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Focus Jeremy.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
The Conservative Monday Club is so objectionable that even the tory party felt obliged to dissociated itself from the pressure group in 2001 but, that said, despite it's well documented support for white minority domination in Southern Africa, I've never seen a public claim like this one made by Bridgen. Did they use that "slogan" or has the dimwitted Bridgen muddled then up with the FCS in his attempt to score political points? Looks potentially actionable? 
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His response?
Sasaferrato
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'Obnoxious cunt' describes him well.
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bercow was in both the monday club and fcs eg Bercow 'pushing hard' to recall MPs for Mandela debate if former South African president dies during recess and Mandela: Tories ‘indulged’ Apartheid rulers - HainThe Conservative Monday Club is so objectionable that even the tory party felt obliged to dissociated itself from the pressure group in 2001 but, that said, despite it's well documented support for white minority domination in Southern Africa, I've never seen a public claim like this one made by Bridgen. Did they use that "slogan" or has the dimwitted Bridgen muddled then up with the FCS in his attempt to score political points? Looks potentially actionable?
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the scotsman article says the mc notorious for the hang mandela slogan but i agree it sounds more like fcs
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Wow. What a pathetic worm. Kept in office by remainers for so long despite the known bullying solely to further their agenda.
"remarkably, in his interviews with the investigator in this investigation, the respondent chose to imitate the complainant’s voice and words on at least 20 occasions."
"remarkably, in his interviews with the investigator in this investigation, the respondent chose to imitate the complainant’s voice and words on at least 20 occasions."
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yeh but is he a good mimic? we should be told
mwgdrwg
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Woooooow, wot a pathetic wuuuuurm. Kept in office by remaaaainers for soooooooo long despite the HA! known bullying solely to further theeeeeiiiir agenda.
Is how Bercow might respond to that post.
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i see he takes the kenneth william line on just a minute
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