Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
I doubt anyone was going to seriously do that
Jaw-dropping Brixton description in blog
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I doubt anyone was going to seriously do that
Mrs Magpie
On a bit of break...
Missed your post until it was quoted. What News International did was criminal and craven, but that doesn't mean I can't get angry about stuff on my doorstep too. Recently I've noticed a lot of trendy bright young things attracted to the area being really crass about the rest of us and it makes my blood boil. Coming out of the market on Friday I heard some hipsters loudly complain that "Brixton would be really great if the area had less chavvy proles."
miss minnie
Well-Known Member
Whatever. It is still a threat. Threats to take an internet squabble to real life should not be tolerated here imo.
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
Twats
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
Well I apologise to Sophie Armour. There's no way I'd abuse her in real life. I wouldn't waste my breath on her.
Sorry Sophie, but can you stop writing about Brixton temporarily until you can write in a style that doesn't make me think of Liz Jones and the other twats that write for the Daily Mail. Thank you
miss minnie
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I'm not saying that your anger might not be justified. You could however put down the pitchfork and use all your years of wisdom to educate rather than condemn lest the crass attitudes of *trendy bright young things* and *hipsters* are merely reinforced by your own prejudices and threats.
London_Calling
Pleasant and unpatronising
I was with you until.... never mind.
gaijingirl
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Well I'm old (according to that HDIF piece) and I do feel a bit offended at what I've just read but I do think that the outrage is perhaps getting a little over the top now to be honest.
I am a little puzzled though Sophie that you live and work in Brixton but the general tone of your writing gives the impression that you don't really like it here very much?!
I am a little puzzled though Sophie that you live and work in Brixton but the general tone of your writing gives the impression that you don't really like it here very much?!
TruXta
tired
Yes, that makes little sense. Altho she wouldn't be the first I've met to say that. They've all been young women too...
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
Maybe it's because she took so long to come and explain herself? She obviously knew she'd pissed people off last night as she pulled the articles, so why didn't she come on here last night to defend herself
and Brixton is full of people like that (your last sentence), but they feel the need to belong in a young, trendy community at all costs. Maybe they think that in time, all the working class will disappear and they'll be able to live a much more comfortable existence without the risk of chavs dirtying their doorsteps/cafes/trendy eateries
Mrs Magpie
On a bit of break...
Unless she crosses my path with a large sign around her neck saying 'I'm journo Sophie Armour' I wouldn't know her from Adam. The internet is public and she's written nasty sneering stuff about Brixtonites. She hasn't said sorry. Not one word in her post could be construed as an apology, or even contrition, it's self-justification.
Mrs Magpie
On a bit of break...
I was pretty pissed off last night but when I read her post this morning I went from pretty pissed off to incandescent with fury.
gaijingirl
Well-Known Member
Don't know Minnie - ask her!
editor
hiraethified
I'd agree with that. She made rather spiteful and dismissive comments, but hopefully she's learnt a little bit more about journalism - and a little bit more about Brixton in the process.
And who knows - one day she may learn to appreciate the mixed culture that Brixton has to offer and not moan when clubs aren't full of people exactly like her.
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
I would if she was here.
Anyway, I've made my distance for the little madam clear enough by now so shall leave her alone, only because she's young though. I'm pretty confident after all this, she won't turn into another Liz Jones
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
All this shows the danger of using the internet.
U might mean one thing and someone takes it in way that u don't mean.
Re reading Sophie's post it can be seen that her reviews can be read in another way.
The other problem is that most of us don't have access to the mainstream press.
The "alternative press" like City Limits and others has now gone.
I wouldn't mind her reviews so much if I knew there was other press where different views could be voiced.
What is good about this site is that it gives a voice to people who don't have one elsewhere.
U might mean one thing and someone takes it in way that u don't mean.
Re reading Sophie's post it can be seen that her reviews can be read in another way.
The other problem is that most of us don't have access to the mainstream press.
The "alternative press" like City Limits and others has now gone.
I wouldn't mind her reviews so much if I knew there was other press where different views could be voiced.
What is good about this site is that it gives a voice to people who don't have one elsewhere.
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
One final thought on the matter and then I'll shut up.
I don't think you should have pulled the articles Sophie (in case you're watching this thread). Things are written in the papers all the time that people don't like, but they can't pull the stories. Once they're out there, they're out there.
Furthermore, by pulling them, people aren't able to re-read them and interpret them as you intended the articles to be read/interpreted. Does that make sense? Sorry, my English isn't as good as others on here.
I don't think you should have pulled the articles Sophie (in case you're watching this thread). Things are written in the papers all the time that people don't like, but they can't pull the stories. Once they're out there, they're out there.
Furthermore, by pulling them, people aren't able to re-read them and interpret them as you intended the articles to be read/interpreted. Does that make sense? Sorry, my English isn't as good as others on here.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
it's her work, she hasn't sold it to anyone and so retains the right to pull it. In light of how many people got the hump about it, I don't think there is much point leaving it up or attempting to defend it.
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
but maybe people can re-read it from her point of view?
Anyway, I give up. I'm off to paint a fence
Nanker Phelge
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
One thing you have to really understand if you're gonna make it as a journalist is that once you publish then you have to stick by what you've written. Ensure you believe in what you say enough to take the stick for it should that stick be wielded against you.
Removing the posts because they were 'misunderstood' and therefore garnered negative attention undermines you, you're writing and your belief in you're own voice.
If the misunderstanding was part of poor writing then the articles will just be another part of your learning and should help you get better at it.
We all say and do stupid things. You can't take them back.
I think you should re-post the articles.....live with the flak and get on with writing the next one. People won't always agree with you and some of them might even hate you for your words and opinions.
If you wanna be a journalist, you'll need a thicker skin than you're demonstrating in this situation.
Removing the posts because they were 'misunderstood' and therefore garnered negative attention undermines you, you're writing and your belief in you're own voice.
If the misunderstanding was part of poor writing then the articles will just be another part of your learning and should help you get better at it.
We all say and do stupid things. You can't take them back.
I think you should re-post the articles.....live with the flak and get on with writing the next one. People won't always agree with you and some of them might even hate you for your words and opinions.
If you wanna be a journalist, you'll need a thicker skin than you're demonstrating in this situation.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
I'm so glad her picture's still on Facebook. Shall be keeping an eye out for her on the Hill now
I reckon she'll be like that Liz Jones in The Daily Mail when she gets older
That's a bit harsh, Minnie. I wouldn't wish Jonesitis on anyone. That's like saying "hope you get cancer"!!
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
This reminds me of a sci fi book I read:
http://www.orionbooks.co.uk/books/the-quiet-war-paperback2
The Quiet War and its sequel The Gardens of the Sun.
The Anarchistic outposts are run like Athenian states with direct democracy. They also embrace total free information.There whole lives are on air and internet at all times. Its like an extension of the internet to all life. People accept that all info and there life is out there.
With increasing use of FB , blogs , twitter , posting boards peoples lives and views are seen by more people than ever. Its yet to be seen how far this will go and how to deal with it.
http://www.orionbooks.co.uk/books/the-quiet-war-paperback2
The Quiet War and its sequel The Gardens of the Sun.
The Anarchistic outposts are run like Athenian states with direct democracy. They also embrace total free information.There whole lives are on air and internet at all times. Its like an extension of the internet to all life. People accept that all info and there life is out there.
With increasing use of FB , blogs , twitter , posting boards peoples lives and views are seen by more people than ever. Its yet to be seen how far this will go and how to deal with it.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
The only thing that place has ever oozed is the piss of it's customers, both in this and previous incarnations.
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
That's a bit harsh, Minnie. I wouldn't wish Jonesitis on anyone. That's like saying "hope you get cancer"!!
Exactly, and this will be a lesson to her to take preventative measures to minimise the risk of getting Jonesitis
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
and ageist, implying that anyone over 32 is old (as in the HDIF review). She obviously doesn't realise you're in your 80s
Or that you're twice Sophie's age!
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
100% masahiko
i is a professor and is magical like totoro
This is the funniest thread I read for a while.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
As human animals we generally tend to learn best by direct experience, so...
lighterthief
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Come off it, far worse gets posted on these forums!
