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Is the Range Rover Sport the apex in arsehole wheels ?

Is the Range Rover Sport the ultimate in arsehole wheels ?

  • Yes

    Votes: 82 56.9%

  • Yes

    Votes: 51 35.4%

  • Yes

    Votes: 51 35.4%

  • Yes

    Votes: 55 38.2%

  • No, I have an Audi and I claim that title

    Votes: 13 9.0%

  • I dont know as I do not drive

    Votes: 23 16.0%

  • I live in the country and I find it useful for the 2 frosts we get each year

    Votes: 9 6.3%

  • Comedy Option

    Votes: 15 10.4%

  • Fuck you, you snotty middle class cycling shitbag

    Votes: 39 27.1%
  • Total voters
    144
DownwardDog said:
You might find the situation simplified soon because Stellantis look doomed. They have some really strong brands (Jeep, Maserati, Alfa, Citroen) but appear to mismanaging all of them except Dodge.
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Alfa Romeo has been in trouble since what seems ever, Lancia seems to have disappeared completely and as for FIAT if it wasn't for one single product, the 'new' 500, they would be in the dustbin of history. The Agnelli family and the Elkanns have always been bad news with coked up bastards the late Gianni Agnelli and the crazed Lapo Elkann in particular.

Sad to see really once magnificently innovative engineering from the likes of Citroen reduced to the present badged garbage. Lancia and Alfa Romeo too never made a really decent car after FIAT took them over.
 
DownwardDog said:
You might find the situation simplified soon because Stellantis look doomed. They have some really strong brands (Jeep, Maserati, Alfa, Citroen) but appear to mismanaging all of them except Dodge.
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And Nissan looking very fragile in the Renault/Mitsu/Nissan conglomerate. Not sure if Renault has the funds to bail them out this time.
Though they kind of deserve it. When they got into trouble last time, they had very good cars that they were struggling to sell. Now they have shit cars that they're selling a lot of, but struggling to profit on because they're so shit that no-one buys them for MSRP. (Though they're a strong brand in the UK for... reasons.)
 
ID47 said:
Alfa Romeo has been in trouble since what seems ever, Lancia seems to have disappeared completely and as for FIAT if it wasn't for one single product, the 'new' 500, they would be in the dustbin of history. The Agnelli family and the Elkanns have always been bad news with coked up bastards the late Gianni Agnelli and the crazed Lapo Elkann in particular.

Sad to see really once magnificently innovative engineering from the likes of Citroen reduced to the present badged garbage. Lancia and Alfa Romeo too never made a really decent car after FIAT took them over.
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Lancia has disappeared in the UK, their cars are sold as Chrysler. In Spain they're still fairly common.
 
ID47 said:
Alfa Romeo has been in trouble since what seems ever, Lancia seems to have disappeared completely and as for FIAT if it wasn't for one single product, the 'new' 500, they would be in the dustbin of history. The Agnelli family and the Elkanns have always been bad news with coked up bastards the late Gianni Agnelli and the crazed Lapo Elkann in particular.

Sad to see really once magnificently innovative engineering from the likes of Citroen reduced to the present badged garbage. Lancia and Alfa Romeo too never made a really decent car after FIAT took them over.
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Whereas the French and German Governments shovel cash into their car industries in complete contravention of EU State Aid rules they at least pretend they don’t… Whereas FIAT effectively had a direct line of finance from the Italian exchequer and was basically run as a family owned government department…
 
DownwardDog said:
You might find the situation simplified soon because Stellantis look doomed. They have some really strong brands (Jeep, Maserati, Alfa, Citroen) but appear to mismanaging all of them except Dodge.
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I thought the three Alfa SUVs were doing quite well TBF.
 
A380 said:
Whereas the French and German Governments shovel cash into their car industries in complete contravention of EU State Aid rules they at least pretend they don’t… Whereas FIAT effectively had a direct line of finance from the Italian exchequer and was basically run as a family owned government department…
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Very true regarding FIAT. The Red Brigades missed a trick with that dreadful old lizard look a like Agnelli. That man just oozed evil: 1734443801509.png

So evil he had his own son killed, allegedly: Eduardo Agnelli, The Martyr of his Belief
 
hard to tell what make the black car is, but if its not German you shouldn't be taking up 2 spaces.
 
DownwardDog said:
Defender has a locking centre diff so that might not be stuck. If it's got the optional locking rear, it's definitely not stuck.
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The motor might not be stuck but the driver probably is.
There's usually a vast expanse between the capabilities of a vehicle and of its driver. The driver usually runs out of talent long before the vehicle runs out of ability.
 
Saul Goodman said:
The motor might not be stuck but the driver probably is.
There's usually a vast expanse between the capabilities of a vehicle and of its driver. The driver usually runs out of talent long before the vehicle runs out of ability.
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Idiot driver believes because they have a range rover or whatever, they can go anywhere, do anything, anytime.
NOT. :D
 
Chz said:
You can have 4, 6, 8 wheel drive and all the locking/unlocking diffs you want. If that Defender is running summer tyres on ice, it's fucked. My RWD car with snows regularly left AWDs on all seasons in the dust when it snowed.
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The sheer weight of these things works against them if there's snow or ice plus any kind of incline at all. Biggest modern defender is over 2.5 tonnes.
 
SpookyFrank said:
The sheer weight of these things works against them if there's snow or ice plus any kind of incline at all. Biggest modern defender is over 2.5 tonnes.
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One of the big issues they have - and it's a hold over from the 'light truck' designs like L200, Navara, Hilux etc... is that there's not enough weight in the back when its not carrying pallet loads of bricks, so the rear wheels aren't pressed down onto the road and there's not enough friction between the tyres and the road surface.

The AWD cars don't have the same problem because the weight is more evenly spaced, but a bag of grit in the boot is a good plan.
 
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