Is the Range Rover Sport the apex in arsehole wheels ?

[dessiato]

Just as motorcycle licences are staged based on the engine size and power, there should be at the very least some kind of compulsory performance driving course for drivers who buy or hire a ‘super sports’ car for the first time, regardless of many years they’ve held a driving licence.

I’m surprised supercar hire companies don’t insist on even a basic one-day track induction course before one is allowed to drive off for the weekend in a Lambo. But I guess an Amex Centurion card is all the qualifications they need to see...

I've been driving since I was 5, on fields obviously. I've done the advanced driving, and police driving courses. I've done single seater and rally driving. I'd like to think I'm a competent driver, but driving a supercar is whole different kettle of fish. I think I would struggle to get the best from one, safely. There's no way most people are capable of handling one.

 

[T & P]

I've been driving since I was 5, on fields obviously. I've done the advanced driving, and police driving courses. I've done single seater and rally driving. I'd like to think I'm a competent driver, but driving a supercar is whole different kettle of fish. I think I would struggle to get the best from one, safely. There's no way most people are capable of handling one.

Well, I reckon it is perfectly doable to drive one for a weekend without previous training and do so safely and without incident even after putting your foot down a bit. But so long as one has the simple wits to work out that the acceleration/ torque available is beyond anything they would have experienced before, and very difficult to control in most circumstances.

As countless YouTube videos show, a lot of supercar crashes seem to happen on city streets from a dead stop start, when some twat accelerates too much to impress onlookers, and the car tailspins. Or at relative low speeds through bendy roads, again when the driver fancies himself as Ayton Senna coming out of a bend in Monaco and accelerates too much. If one keeps a cool head and limits himself to gently pushing down the pedal a bit along a motorway straight stretch, a 500hp supercar should be perfectly manageable.

But then I guess the type of folk willing to spend a grand to hire a Batmobile for the weekend is usually not abundant in restraint and common sense.

 

[DownwardDog]

A new apex... stretched and convertible Y62 Nissan Patrol.

 

[dessiato]

A new apex... stretched and convertible Y62 Nissan Patrol.

A great wedding car though.

 

[Athos]

... I'm a competent driver, but driving a supercar is whole different kettle of fish. I think I would struggle to get the best from one, safely.

There's no public road on which it'd be safe to get anything like the best from a supercar. That should be saved for a track day. On the road, it's more fun to drive a slower car nearer its limits than to drive a fast car at a fraction if its potential (leaving aside poseur points).

 

[A380]

A new apex... stretched and convertible Y62 Nissan Patrol.

The Pope's standards have dropped recently...

 

[not-bono-ever]

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

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Disco Sport, the wanky little brother to the RR Sport.

 

[T & P]

Disco Sport, the wanky little brother to the RR Sport.

Worse in many ways. Like someone who actually wants to be a full-time cunt, but can't afford it.

 

[BassJunkie]

Saw my first ever Rolls Royce Cullinan in the flesh earlier, jeepers it is fugly. At first I thought I was following a hearse. I'm sure it's a nice place to sit, but its main purpose seems to be to tell everyone that you've got loads-a-money.

What an abomination! They're making a fucking SUV!?! This is surely the end times! Before we know it Jaguar will be making estate cars, or, God Forbid! Diesel cars!

 

[A380]

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Frankly I’m surprised he got from London to Durham without The car breaking down.

 

[Spymaster]

On the road, it's more fun to drive a slower car nearer its limits than to drive a fast car at a fraction if its potential ...

 

[dessiato]

What an abomination! They're making a fucking SUV!?! This is surely the end times! Before we know it Jaguar will be making estate cars, or, God Forbid! Diesel cars!

Aston Martin DBX

 

[Spymaster]

Aston Martin DBX

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One of these stopped beside me at Marble Arch last week



I think the woman driving it actually clocked me laughing.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Aston Martin DBX

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I quite like that

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

One of these stopped beside me at Marble Arch last week

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I think the woman driving it actually clocked me laughing.

Think we’ve already been there; don’t fill it with kids and/or dogs, drive it carefully and it will only go up in price...

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

I quite like that

It’s a Cayenne that costs twice as much and will break down. What’s not to like?

 

[Marty1]

Don’t know how Jaguar Land Rover are losing money - there’s absolutely loads of Range Rovers on the road.

 

[T & P]

I really don't understand the ongoing popularity of SUV-bodied cars not only in the premium car segment, but across the entire industry. They're not even particularly spacious ffs. Other than an elevated driving position they offer no practical advantage in most cases, seeing a lot of them don't even pretend anymore to be designed or optimised for any off-road use.

For all the out-of-favour estate cars appear to have become over the years, most families would be far better served with one than with any SUV out there. And at the performance end of the range, I suspect even the likes of the Focus ST Estate would leave most non-premium SUVs in their wake with ease.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

I really don't understand the ongoing popularity of SUV-bodied cars not only in the premium car segment, but across the entire industry. They're not even particularly spacious ffs. Other than an elevated driving position they offer no practical advantage in most cases, seeing a lot of them don't even pretend anymore to be designed or optimised for any off-road use.

For all the out-of-favour estate cars appear to have become over the years, most families would be far better served with one than with any SUV out there. And at the performance end of the range, I suspect even the likes of the Focus ST Estate would leave most non-premium SUVs in their wake with ease.

We got given a Merc SUV over Christmas when someone twatted our motor. The elevated driving position was very nice indeed, also as you get on in years that makes it easier to get in and out of. But it fucking guzzled the juice, was really sluggish and in spite of being the size of a small moon was no more spacious in the cabin than our estate car and the boot was smaller.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Oh and a neighbour across the way came over to say he didn’t like my choice of car. Even though our actual car is an Audi no one has ever said that before!

 

[strung out]

We hired a Hyundai Santa Fe SUV to drive across Nevada, Arizona and California a couple of years back. Thought I was a right billy big bollocks until I got on the roads and found it was one of the smallest cars around compared to everyone else's.

 

[DownwardDog]

Don’t know how Jaguar Land Rover are losing money - there’s absolutely loads of Range Rovers on the road.

They have no economies of scale from being part of a larger group with a wider range of products.

 

[kebabking]

Don’t know how Jaguar Land Rover are losing money - there’s absolutely loads of Range Rovers on the road.

Dead easy - there are four times as many BMW's on the road (or on the hardshoulder...) As JLR's, but it costs the same to develop a RRS, indeed more, as an X5.

 

[Marty1]

We hired a Hyundai Santa Fe SUV to drive across Nevada, Arizona and California a couple of years back. Thought I was a right billy big bollocks until I got on the roads and found it was one of the smallest cars around compared to everyone else's.

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That’s what my gf drives tho an older model (approx 10 yrs old).

She was going to buy a new X5 at the time but the 7 seater version couldn’t fit two grown adults in the back 2 seats, plus the Santa Fe was about half the cost.

Her’s is still going strong from new - 2.2 litre diesel engine, 198bhp auto, big leather heated seats etc and 4wd if you need it.

 

[DownwardDog]

Dead easy - there are four times as many BMW's on the road (or on the hardshoulder...) As JLR's, but it costs the same to develop a RRS, indeed more, as an X5.

It is no coincidence that the other British OEMs who are struggling (Aston, McLaren) are also subscale.

 

[editor]

Now they're advertising how brilliant it is at going over speed bumps

 

[Rosemary Jest]

Still has to go over at an angle, so not even good at doing what it's designed for.

 

[A380]

Adverts in the papers today about it being the 50th anniversary of the launch of the Range Rover today. I knew the 70s were crap...

 

[hash tag]

Won't get no satisfaction in one of these

Range Rover Velar named in survey as Britain’s 'least satisfying' new car

A survey of 43,000 car buyers carried out by Which? found buyers moaned about the Range Rover Velar's electrical faults, poor rear visibility and “iffy reliability”

www.mirror.co.uk