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Even Jeremy Clarkson liked those. How is it off road?
Is the Range Rover Sport the apex in arsehole wheels ?
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Plastic Paddy
He’s trolling.
Bimble’s 4wd thread is the one to pick if he’s serious. Or plenty of others. Why else pick the only thread on the boards that's specifically about how shit Range Rovers are and the dicks that own them to say 'I'm thinking of buying a Range Rover'?!
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It's a 4x4 vehicle. It has an "off-road" button -- you push it then the computer does various things. In the ice, it basically drives itself -- just steer. In the mud, it sorts out how much power to each wheel etc.
not-bono-ever
meh
All RR sports are low end
DownwardDog
Riding a Brompton with a power meter.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
The most off-road capable are the Nissan Pathfinder or Patrol, Toyota Land cruiser, Mitsubishi Shogun. I regularly drive my Pathfinder on 300 mile motorway trips at 80mph and find it very comfortable. Its fantastic for 2 week camping trips to the Alps with 3 kids. It does however, as all the vehicles in this class do, burn fuel.
Something like an Outlander will do all the off-road stuff you need, be comfortable on long road trips and burn a lot less fuel.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
And almost any 4x4 will do it better than a range rover. Toyota Land Cruiser has been the official benchmark for a long time but there must be at least ten other cars that are as good in terms of quality and reliability in that class.
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
Someone I know has the PHEV Outlander and it seems really nice. Also like many Hyrbids it's nipper then it's specs might suggest. Also eerie how quite it is on full electric mode.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Des lives in Iberia, so he should definitely drive around with Pajero written on the back of his car
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
All your audis, bmws, porsche cayennes etc are just volkswagens with a different badge. A badge you're paying an extra 5-10 grand for. And which will make passers by think you're a knob.
DownwardDog
Riding a Brompton with a power meter.
Not terrific when the off road going gets really rough because of relatively shallow exit/entry angles and wading depth compared to the RR Sport. You can fix that with aftermarket bits though.
They do have by far the best powertrains in the class though. The 3.0 petrol double-vanos turbo is the sweet spot, unless you're going to be towing. It has a lot of interesting tech in it including a mechanical fuel pump and the intercooler inside the intake plenum.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Mercedes, audi and BMW are all the same. Ordinary cars with a premium badge on them to appeal to pathetic halfwits.
Bahnhof Strasse
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You ever driven one Frank?
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
No I always prefer to drive something with indicators.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
You should give it a go, find out why these halfwits towards whom you feel pathos are happy to splurge more than twice the average UK pre-tax income on an ordinary car with a fancy-pants badge...
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In the modern world, it’s increasingly unclear what a “premium” marque really means. The technology is shared, the manufacturing process of all companies is to tolerances of less than a micrometer, they’re all broadly as reliable as each other (except for Jaguar Land Rover, who are worse rather than better). You don’t even get better dealer service these days. It seems increasingly to just be a competition about who can make the plushest interior.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
My best mate has the Seat version of our car, we have driven each other’s cars and by god you can tell the difference. Whether that difference is worth the extra £’s the Audi costs over the Seat I guess depends on how much spare money you have.
Griff
Hardly posting anymore
Never been a Mercedes fan, but there is so much want for this:
Mercedes 300SEL 6.3
Proper German engineering.
Mercedes 300SEL 6.3
Proper German engineering.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
It’s a looker and immaculate, but will drive like shite.
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Certainly by today's standards.
What do you find the difference to be?
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Everything feels more solid. I know the metal is the same thickness and that they tune the sound the doors make when they close and so on, but the way it feels on the road feels more solid. Dunno why, can’t describe much more than that, I’m not really Clarkson... Also it has more toys and that. And ultimately on a long journey I arrive feeling less tired than when I did the same in ‘lesser’ cars that I used to own. Add to that the feel of the materials used in the cabin and, to me, it feels worth it. I feel a Bentley or that level of car is as much a waste of dough as a Seat owner thinks an Audi is though, so it seems that these things are relative.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
I doubt you're their target audience, Frank.
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Plastic Paddy
If he's right about them being built to appeal to pathetic halfwits, he's precisely their target audience.
Most of what you’ve said there (possibly even all) is referring precisely to the “plushness of the cabin” I mentioned above as being the last meaningful difference between marques.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
So?
And plushness of the cabin doesn’t account for how solid it feels on the road, which was my first point.
It kind of does, though. It’s all about how it’s transmitted to you in the cabin.
it’s fine to feel that the plushness is worth the money. But it’s different to the old days, where the actual mechanics were better in more expensive cars
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Obviously, that’s where I experience my car. But handling etc., dunno, it’s nice, you’re welcome to come and have a thrape if you want.
And maybe back in the day pricier cars had better reliability, I don’t really remember, or have any benchmark as no one had a flash motor (though my dad did once look after a customer’s Ferrari for a week and it had 180mph on the speedo. My car has that too, I can fit a fridge-freezer in mine...)
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