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Is America burning? (Black Lives Matter protests, civil unrest and riots 2020)

It’s not just the police that needs to change, society needs to change as a whole. Poverty, racism, injustice, availability of firearms have all fed into the evolution of the US police as they are. Brutality is normalised because of wider brutality in society. Power has to be maintained under their system and that requires overwhelming force when anybody can own lethal weaponry. The need for power is what has to be taken away.

i just think their entire culture is fucked, hard not to be defeatist about it. Not sure they ever had the ‘friendly bobby’ over there, and tbh it’s probably a bit of a myth here too. Seems to be thugs all the way down. Seen it when I lived there in a fairly tame college town. They don’t like to be challenged.
 
So, the regime doubling down on the “its all down to Anteeefa” angle. This time, with the unsubtle addition of “and people with Antifa-like views” a catch all like “fellow traveller” for either a new McCarthyism, stochastic terror or both. Meanwhile grifter Andy Ngo has rolled out his 900,000 dollar law suit against “Rose City Antifa” and a number of people he has named and lined up for his latest bit of stochastic terror targeting.

 


Sign of things to come on the legal side of things, going to be a long year of ridiculous sentances and dodgy convictions on the back of not much is my guess.

Giving Queens and Staten Island a pass?

Queens, which contains approximately 27% of the population of NYC; Staten Island 5.7%.

Of all cops in the NYPD, around 17% live in the former, 10% in the latter.

More than a quarter of them ‘bluelive’ on Long Island (excluding Queens & Brooklyn), which is around three-quarters white, with black people comprising less than 10% of the population. Approximately 13% of New York's Finest™ reside in Upstate NY. Just 4% live on Manhattan, the third most populous, and the most densely populated, of the Boroughs. Queens is around 20% black and 25% white, Staten Island 12% and 60%; together they are the most suburban and least densely populated of the Boroughs.
 
It’s not just the police that needs to change, society needs to change as a whole. Poverty, racism, injustice, availability of firearms have all fed into the evolution of the US police as they are. Brutality is normalised because of wider brutality in society. Power has to be maintained under their system and that requires overwhelming force when anybody can own lethal weaponry. The need for power is what has to be taken away.

i just think their entire culture is fucked, hard not to be defeatist about it. Not sure they ever had the ‘friendly bobby’ over there, and tbh it’s probably a bit of a myth here too. Seems to be thugs all the way down. Seen it when I lived there in a fairly tame college town. They don’t like to be challenged.
yup, it's well overpoliced - they have park police, university police, sheriffs, air marshalls, game wardens, BPAs, fucking school police. I only found out today that the reason George Floyd was detained before being murdered, was because a gas station employee called 911 cos they suspected Floyd was trying to pay for some cigarettes with a fake $20 bill. WTF. Hope that gas station worker feels fucking guilty for such a petty act. 911! Imagine a pub pver here calling 999 cos someone tried to pay for a round with a hooky £50
 
yup, it's well overpoliced - they have park police, university police, sheriffs, air marshalls, game wardens, BPAs, fucking school police. I only found out today that the reason George Floyd was detained before being murdered, was because a gas station employee called 911 cos they suspected Floyd was trying to pay for some cigarettes with a fake $20 bill. WTF. Hope that gas station worker feels fucking guilty for such a petty act. 911! Imagine a pub pver here calling 999 cos someone tried to pay for a round with a hooky £50
Nearer a fake tenner :(
 
yup, it's well overpoliced - they have park police, university police, sheriffs, air marshalls, game wardens, BPAs, fucking school police. I only found out today that the reason George Floyd was detained before being murdered, was because a gas station employee called 911 cos they suspected Floyd was trying to pay for some cigarettes with a fake $20 bill. WTF. Hope that gas station worker feels fucking guilty for such a petty act. 911! Imagine a pub pver here calling 999 cos someone tried to pay for a round with a hooky £50

I'm pretty sure that the gas station attendant has said he made a mistake and probably wouldn't ever all the cops again because "he never saw calling the cops improve anything."

In other news, some guardsmen and active duty troops are refusing to deploy:

 
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I'm pretty sure that the gas station attendant has said he made a mistake and probably wouldn't ever all the cops again because "he never saw calling the cops improve anything."

In other news, some guardsmen and active duty troops are refusing to deploy:

It was a grocery store, Cup Foods. The owner has vowed “to make sure cops won’t be called to Cup Foods again” for non-violent issues:

“Black people in urban communities are targeted,” he said. “This is a step towards fixing the issue.”

“Until the police stop killing innocent people, we will handle incidents like this one using non-violent tactics that do not involve police.” He will tell staff not to call the cops unless there’s an extreme situation. And Abumayyaleh will no longer pay for off-duty officers to patrol the business on Friday and Saturday nights.



 
The editorial page editor who defended the New York Times publishing the inflammatory op-ed by Senator ‘Plantation’ Cotton has admitted he didn't read it before publication. The Times has now announced that the process leading up to its publication was ‘rushed” and “Did Not Meet Standards”, that the editing process will be reviewed, and fewer op-ed pieces published.


 
The editorial page editor who defended the New York Times publishing the inflammatory op-ed by Senator ‘Plantation’ Cotton has admitted he didn't read it before publication. The Times has now announced that the process leading up to its publication was ‘rushed” and “Did Not Meet Standards”, that the editing process will be reviewed, and fewer op-ed pieces published.



 
yup, it's well overpoliced - they have park police, university police, sheriffs, air marshalls, game wardens, BPAs, fucking school police. I only found out today that the reason George Floyd was detained before being murdered, was because a gas station employee called 911 cos they suspected Floyd was trying to pay for some cigarettes with a fake $20 bill. WTF. Hope that gas station worker feels fucking guilty for such a petty act. 911! Imagine a pub pver here calling 999 cos someone tried to pay for a round with a hooky £50
Imagine calling the cops on someone carrying a chair leg
 
It was a grocery store, Cup Foods. The owner has vowed “to make sure cops won’t be called to Cup Foods again” for non-violent issues:






That book that was posted upthread, about police brutality in the States. There’s a chapter in it about how black people can resist and one of the things they talk about is not phoning the police to report crimes, setting up their own community groups to deal with issues etc. Seems poignant reading it now in light of all this.
 
The videos of more and more police brutality at the protests just keep coming. This morning, in buffalo new york an older guy standing on the pavement is casually shoved by advancing line of police and falls and cracks his head on the concrete, starts bleeding from his skull. He's stable in hospital now apparently. The police obviously well aware that they are constantly being filmed (as they police these demonstrations against police brutality) but it seems to make no difference at all. You see the morning's crop of videos and it really does look like the police are rioting .
 
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