Improve a sport by adding/removing rules

[ymu]

Problem is, lets say Man U have a player sent off against Chelsea in the 89 minute, he will serve his ban against other teams, lets say Wolves, Blackburn etc, which gives no benefit to Chelsea. Bans should always be served in the next fixture against the side he fouled against.

There's a limit to how much havoc could safely be caused in the dying minutes under this rule, given that extra time would be added for the disruption and played whilst you have player(s) off the pitch.

We could add the ban time to extra time if you like, or carry it over to the next match, with that player having to be named in the starting line-up to serve the remainder of the penalty.

Something that actually punishes cheating and thuggery, is all I'm looking for.

 

[High Voltage]

F1 - the amount of ground effect that the cars still produce is greater than the weight of the car, or some such bollox - so in "theory" they could hang up side down - my proposed rule would be that all F1 race tracks have a long straight with a glass / transparent tunnel so that the drivers could overtake up-side-down - spectacular racing and solving the overtaking problem in 1 fail swoop

 

[danny la rouge]

Cricket - get rid of the stuff on the field, and just have the sandwiches.

 

[ymu]

Ahem.

 

[danny la rouge]

Ahem.

You think I actually read threads in the sports forum?

 

[Superdupastupor]

180• football

football played on a pitch which is an equilateral triangle: So three goals, three teams of say 7 players and *2* Footballs.

I've often wondered how this would work out. Not very well I'd imagine. But it might be interesting with the treat of an other team attacking whilst you are attacking, two teams ganging up against an other but every team ultimatlely out for themselves, commentators tripping over themselves describing what's going on.

Not sure how off side would quite work.

 

[Corax]

Fox-hunting: 20 metre high genetically modified sabre-toothed dinofoxes

 

[Greebo]

Fox-hunting: 20 metre high genetically modified sabre-toothed dinofoxes

Chasing one human (preferably a banker or a member of the current govermnent), on foot.

 

[Meltingpot]

Dice chess. When it is your go, you roll a D6. Whatever number you get, that is how many moves you get for your go.
Would make chess more interesting

I love that!

 

[Lord Camomile]

180• football

football played on a pitch which is an equilateral triangle: So three goals, three teams of say 7 players and *2* Footballs.

I've often wondered how this would work out. Not very well I'd imagine. But it might be interesting with the treat of an other team attacking whilst you are attacking, two teams ganging up against an other but every team ultimatlely out for themselves, commentators tripping over themselves describing what's going on.

Not sure how off side would quite work.

It's been done. In contrast to regular football, you win by conceding the least goals.

 

[Teaboy]

That's already how it works. IIRC there was an incident recently of a female referee using the advantage rule and then, when the player who was fouled went on to foul another player, giving the team whose player was originally fouled a free-kick (because no advantage was obtained) whilst awarding the player who was fouled in the first incident a yellow card for the foul they then committed when given advantage.

The commentators went apeshit but it was because they, like so many men, do not understand the rules of the game.

Ahem.

'Laws of the Game' not rules As they say in ref circles "Use your L.O.A.F!" (Laws of Association Football)

Anyway you're right in the sense that refs can play advantage for a short period of time but then take play back if no advantage is gained, but in reality they seldom do and certainly not for the period of time they do in rugby.

I actually think Football could learn a lot from other sports but its just to set in its way. Two from Rugby alone is longer advantage is and injured players being treated on the pitch whilst play continues (in some circumstances).

 

[Lord Camomile]

That's already how it works. IIRC there was an incident recently of a female referee using the advantage rule and then, when the player who was fouled went on to foul another player, giving the team whose player was originally fouled a free-kick (because no advantage was obtained) whilst awarding the player who was fouled in the first incident a yellow card for the foul they then committed when given advantage.

The commentators went apeshit but it was because they, like so many men, do not understand the rules of the game.

EDIT: tough google, but I found a good post about it

Well then it needs to be enforced - my memory isn't spectacular, but I honestly can't remember a single time when play was brought back after advantage has been given. The attitude seems to be "you played on, so you don't get a free kick".

 

[Teaboy]

Football abolish the offside rule.

Yeah. Every team could just employ 3 huge centre forwards who just stay in the oppo penalty box all game whilst the rest of their team just lump the ball up to them. Deal with that Barca!

 

[Lord Camomile]

I actually think Football could learn a lot from other sports but its just to set in its way. Two from Rugby alone is longer advantage is and injured players being treated on the pitch whilst play continues (in some circumstances).

I've wondered whether that would be feasible in football, but I think the problem is football moves around the pitch much faster than rugby, and there isn't a definable game line like there is in rugby.

 

[Santino]

Eliminate all rules where misbehaviour of some sort is rewarded by the CHANCE of the other team to score some points, depending on how good they are.

 

[Teaboy]

I've wondered whether that would be feasible in football, but I think the problem is football moves around the pitch much faster than rugby, and there isn't a definable game line like there is in rugby.

The point is though it won't happen much in reality, just the threat of it will stop a lot of players from rolling around the floor for ages and get rid of this stupid thing where players have to leave the pitch if they have been treated. If the game is continuing the vast majority will just get up and get on with it.

Also let the stadium clock keep the official time like in rugby. Then everyone can just see it and see when its been stopped, it therefore takes all the bollocks out of the game about how much injury time the ref should have played.

Also get rid of fucking Harry Potter that stands behind the goal in European matches, what a fucking waste of space.

 

[ymu]

Well then it needs to be enforced - my memory isn't spectacular, but I honestly can't remember a single time when play was brought back after advantage has been given. The attitude seems to be "you played on, so you don't get a free kick".

Unsurprising when the commentators give the refs such a hard time about decisions like that. It'd take a fair bit of guts to yellow card a player for a foul whilst simultaneously awarding their team a free kick, when most fans and commentators don't understand the game well enough to know what is going on. And if the second offence was not enough for a yellow card, they can't award two free kicks, courting even more controversy.

 

[Lord Camomile]

Also let the stadium clock keep the official time like in rugby. Then everyone can just see it and see when its been stopped, it therefore takes all the bollocks out of the game about how much injury time the ref should have played.

That I would agree with too, makes far too much sense.

Unsurprising when the commentators give the refs such a hard time about decisions like that. It'd take a fair bit of guts to yellow card a player for a foul whilst simultaneously awarding their team a free kick, when most fans and commentators don't understand the game well enough to know what is going on. And if the second offence was not enough for a yellow card, they can't award two free kicks, courting even more controversy.

I think this is the problem with a lot of rules in football - people will get in uproar about applying "the letter of the law". You hear it all the time with "well if that's a penalty you'd end up with 8 penalties a game". Yes, you would, if the rules were enforced properly because you're not supposed to bloody do that

I know what you mean, but I still think there are plenty of occasions where it's not like the scenario you described above, it's just that the fouled player does the decent thing and has a go anyway, but because they were fouled can't make something of it.

I think it would do away with a lot of diving too - players are often said to have "made the most of that", or "gone down easy", and that's generally because they know they've been impeded enough to fuck up their chance, but feel they need to highlight it because otherwise it'll be missed. If they knew they would be given a free kick anyway if they didn't have gain an advantage, they'd be more likely to have a go with the first chance as they're not losing anything.

 

[Teaboy]

Cricket - Get rid of ODI's and stick to 20/20 and Tests.

 

[Bakunin]

F1 - the amount of ground effect that the cars still produce is greater than the weight of the car, or some such bollox - so in "theory" they could hang up side down - my proposed rule would be that all F1 race tracks have a long straight with a glass / transparent tunnel so that the drivers could overtake up-side-down - spectacular racing and solving the overtaking problem in 1 fail swoop

Nah, make Grand Prixs more like this:

 

[Limejuice]

Introduce air traffic control to quidditch.

 

[Orang Utan]

Associated Soccerball: go straight to penalties, with none of the boring toing and throeing. Call it goalball or summat.

 

[Pingu]

Football.

Anyone feigning injury will be pursued by a Tiger for a period of 5 minutes or until caught and eaten whichever is the longer

 

[Pingu]

actually


Football

At kick off a random number of tigers wil be released onto the pitch. Would improve the game no end for me that would

 

[Pingu]

Football

Giving lip to the referee can carry the sanction of the black and orange striped card. The production of which means that a... you get the idea

 

[Greebo]

Football: Before kick off, the referee and linesmen must prove that they're at least 50% visually impaired.

 

[Greebo]

Football

Giving lip to the referee can carry the sanction of the black and orange striped card. The production of which means that a... you get the idea

Continuing with the tiger theme, any player taking a dive or even believed to have taken a dive will be given the tiger test until they either leave the pitch or die.

 

[Brubricker]

Fouls called from a distance of 30 yards might as well be done by coin flip. Put an assistant referee on the pitch, for fuck's sake.

This will happen someday in the US. The four major team sports native to North America have all expanded the size and powers of officiating crews in some way over the past half century. Tinkering with rules is what Americans do. It happens a lot more frequently than you realize. We'll do it in football soon enough.

 

[Teaboy]

Fouls called from a distance of 30 yards might as well be done by coin flip. Put an assistant referee on the pitch, for fuck's sake.

This will happen someday in the US. The four major team sports native to North America have all expanded the size and powers of officiating crews in some way over the past half century. Tinkering with rules is what Americans do. It happens a lot more frequently than you realize. We'll do it in football soon enough.

Back in the early days of football there used to be 2 refs, one for each half of the pitch. Typically the teams would have 1 ref each, unfortuntaly this led to a lot of rows over decesions in the middle of the pitch so they just moved to one neutral ref. Linesmen were introduced later when offside become an issue.

The main problem for FIFA is they are obsessed with the game being exactly the same for the pros as it is for park football, therefore all thinking regarding law changes is based on this. Its a point of view which bears no scrutiny as trying to compare Barcelona v Chelsea in the Champions League semi to the Red Lion v White Horse on Hackney Marshes on a Sunday morning is absurd. Its a totally different game.