I'm not sure where I fit in politically.

[ChrisC]

You're a workfareist then. They'll all do, I wouldn't worry too much about which one you vote for.

Workfareist? A definition please, or more explanation. Sorry not very good at this politics lark.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Workfareist? A definition please, or more explanation. Sorry not very good at this politics lark.

Well, would you agree with this, say: "people who are out of work for no fault of their own should be given the dole, that's fair enough, or if they're off sick - properly off sick mind you. But if they just don't want to get a job, that's a problem, and if there are jobs out there we shouldn't give them any money if they don't take them".

 

[tbaldwin]

Hmmm . I think personal freedom is more important and inequality is natural, but is something wish should strive against. Even if it is natural.

So your against National service then. Makes you a Tory in my book.

 

[ChrisC]

Well, would you agree with this, say: "people who are out of work for no fault of their own should be given the dole, that's fair enough, or if they're off sick - properly off sick mind you. But if they just don't want to get a job, that's a problem, and if there are jobs out there we shouldn't give them any money if they don't take them".

If people are able to work they should work. However, we need to define who is capable of working. For example a mentally ill person with no confidence, who is capable of working should be given money and help with there problem, with a view to actually return to work eventually.

 

[ChrisC]

So your against National service then. Makes you a Tory in my book.

Well I'm against forced National Service yes. It should be an option of choice to serve the country.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

If people are able to work they should work. However, we need to define who is capable of working. For example a mentally ill person with no confidence, who is capable of working should be given money and help with there problem, with a view to actually return to work eventually.

the point is who you think *shouldn't* be given any money

 

[tbaldwin]

Well I'm against forced National Service yes. It should be an option of choice to serve the country.

What about free education? What rights do you think people should have? free healthcare?

 

[ChrisC]

Taxation that pays into free education, welfare and healthcare.

 

[ChrisC]

the point is who you think *shouldn't* be given any money

If someone who has no problems is capable of working then yes they should be working and not be allowed to claim. Unless, they are actively seeking work.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

If someone who has no problems is capable of working then yes they should be working and not be allowed to claim. Unless, they are actively seeking work.

You're a workfareist, and would be happy with any of the current three parties on that score.

 

[tbaldwin]

Taxation that pays into free education, welfare and healthcare.

But what if people havent paid any tax, should they still get it?

 

[dessiato]

I got this from the Political Compass

 

[Cheesypoof]

I know I'm confused, that's why I'm asking all these questions.

i think you should refrain from concerns about how you come across politically.

 

[ChrisC]

But what if people havent paid any tax, should they still get it?

Yes they should.

 

[ChrisC]

i think you should refrain from concerns about how you come across politically.

What do you mean?

 

[Maurice Picarda]

Conservative party liberal? Is this a new thing explain that to me.

Eh? Belief in economic liberty and individual liberty is at the heart of the modern Conservative party. It's where they get things so badly wrong. Get your IT dept to install Google and Wikipedia on your machine.

 

[ChrisC]

Thanks I'll take a look.

Seems to me I'm a tory!!! Golly!

 

[tar1984]

Thanks I'll take a look.

Seems to me I'm a tory!!! Golly!

You have been added to The List.

 

[ChrisC]

The List?

 

[klang]

We know where you park your car!

 

[futha]

I got this, can someone tell me which party I am closest to?

 

[ChrisC]

Well I'm pretty close to what you got and got told Liberal Democrat. But according to this lot on here I'm a bloody Tory dontcha know.

 

[DotCommunist]

also: while good, the political compass is not some delphic oracle of ones political stance.

 

[futha]

so am I a lib dem then (according to the compass)?

 

[Onket]

Green.

From here- http://www.politicalcompass.org/extremeright

 

[futha]

Green.

From here- http://www.politicalcompass.org/extremeright

Oh ok cheers, thats fair enough I suppose. Not to keen on what I have read about their policy on alternative medicine though!

 

[Spion]

I'm not sure where I fit in politically.

So I describe myself as a Conservative Liberal, is there such a thing or does such a description lie elsewhere?

I suggest you ask Shevek

 

[trevhagl]

Would do you mean by a workfore one?

being forced to work for nothing (well, benefits...next to nothing)

the Tories are on a par with the BNP as far as welfare state goes ie FUCK EM!! Let em starve!!

 

[19sixtysix]

I'm a bit lost myself. I seem closest to Ghandi.

The 1972 tory party looks a better choice that today's labour party

I really want a hung parliament.

 

[Vider]

isn't all political bias irrational? unless the bias considers every fact that has ever existed?

these sort of things annoy me.

does anyone know what the cnt i am on about?