ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
And perhaps a green roof too, by the look of it?
Huge proposed development around Lambeth town hall promises 'community space and feel good vibes'
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And perhaps a green roof too, by the look of it?
leanderman
Street Party: July 2
Architect friend says 'at least they have some good architects in the running'.
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hiraethified
It could be argued that the name is proving something of an embarrassment to the council given their recent attitude toward squatting.
Rushy
basically a scrotum
Are you suggesting that they are knocking it down on account of it carrying her name?
Seems a little unlikely.
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hiraethified
Well, that's one rather curious (and extreme) way to spin my comment, but I do wonder whether the council might try to quietly get rid of the name if the area gets completely redeveloped.
Are you suggesting that they are knocking it down on account of it carrying her name?
Seems a little unlikely.
After all, I imagine hardcore activist squatters aren't really the kind of thing that the 'community' council and their new development partners will want to celebrate or acknowledge in these glossy new builds.
Rushy
basically a scrotum
Sorry Ed. Sometimes I just don't realise how jolly extreme I am being.
The proposed building is called Olive Morris House too. So that's one less conspiracy theory for you to worry about for the time being.
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hiraethified
I wasn't proposing a 'conspiracy theory', just voicing an opinion.
The council have a bit of a record of going back on their original plans for things so I don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility that a name change may happen further along the line.
that wasn't Lambeth's proposal, it came from Richard Rogers / the Architecture Foundation I think, part of a wider scheme to create more shared open spaces in urban areas.i quite like that. never thought id say that about anything lambeth proposedaltho i was happy to be proven wrong about the windrush square redevelopment, they did a good job on that.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
That is interesting as it is the rationale behind the scheme.
The development "partner" for the scheme will get Canterbury house office block as part payment.
They reckon the savings will also come by getting rid of what they regard as surplus Council office space. More "hot desking". Seems like they are envisaging a slimmed down Council.
The Labour Group and LDs argue about the office space issue. The Labour lot say the building at Vauxhall was a waste of money (it was LD idea). The LDs say the Town Hall proposals are costly and are not necessary.
imo its risky to get rid of office space. Once its gone thats it for any future Council. They got rid of surplus schools a while back and are now struggling to find land for schools.
The Cllrs are already thinking about the election next year. I reckon this scheme will be pushed forward as shining example of how Labour is doing a great job.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
I did notice that the blurb say there will be shutters to close off the public space planned. So yes it will be riot proof.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
I do not like the way the new building on Brixton Hill is higher than the original Town Hall buildings. The original Olive Morris house was built to a height that does not impose on the skyline.
Also the new building is just another bland glass box. They could try harder on design.
leanderman
Street Party: July 2
We gotta go up as London's population increases!
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
Frankly I think these plans show a grandiosity and banality worthy of Benito Mussolini. The Co-op council's local inspiration is probably Tory Westminster Council - Brixton is being dragged into the 21st century much like the area round Victoria Station.
There doesn't seem to be much emphasis on employment generation, small businesses etc. Also Lambeth seem to be obstructing the proposed Workspace scheme at Toplin House (Ferndale Road Post office/Refugee Council building). At least the Planning department are resisting Piano House going residential - and they have issued a decision holding Barratts to their section 106 agreement to provide office/retail space at Brixton Square.
I think packing more and more (mainly private) residential into Brixton without corresponding facilities is a disaster. We will end up as a sort of Earls Court - prime residential location with poor shopping and an incredibly busy tube station.
There doesn't seem to be much emphasis on employment generation, small businesses etc. Also Lambeth seem to be obstructing the proposed Workspace scheme at Toplin House (Ferndale Road Post office/Refugee Council building). At least the Planning department are resisting Piano House going residential - and they have issued a decision holding Barratts to their section 106 agreement to provide office/retail space at Brixton Square.
I think packing more and more (mainly private) residential into Brixton without corresponding facilities is a disaster. We will end up as a sort of Earls Court - prime residential location with poor shopping and an incredibly busy tube station.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
In the original Brixton Masterplan there was planned to be some kind of community medical facility. Did point this out a while back to an officer. He did not seem to know about it.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Maybe. But really poor design. There is the Town Hall and the former cinema now a club next to it. This building bears no relation to the rest of site. And looks to me that the Council is arguing that this is an example of thought out integrated design.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
From what a chap who used to work for Lambeth's "direct labour" building repairs told me, Olive Morris House has had pretty bad leakage problems (the balconies and upper window fitments especially) from when it was built onwards, and has cost the council (or rather, us!) a hefty sum every year "firefighting" the effects, so it could very well be that they've finally it's uneconomical to retain.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
I suspect that none of our current councillors and officers are willing to give hostages to fortune in the shape of choosing an "adventurous" design.
Onket
Je suis [CONTENT REMOVED]
Yeah, often seems a shame that total destruction is the chosen solution. There's something about OMH that I quite like.
Have I got this? I am not sure I have been paying attention.
There seem to be different proposals for a redevelopment of Olive Morris House and the Town Hall, proposed by different architectural practices. All the council's office functions will be in the new OMH, rather than scattered around the borough - this has been in the works for a while. Thus it has to be tall to fit everyone in. The architectural challenge is to make the height frame and enhance the old Ace and the Town Hall, including its tower. Tricky.
One proposal seems to involve gutting most of the inside of the town hall to make a walkway through to a new space behind, linking everything together. That was the same one that seemed to suggest linking to St Matthews with a deftly-shaded bit of main road. Lovely idea, but they don't seem to have worked out what to do with the traffic. It could go the other side of the church, across Windrush Square I suppose, as that is so last decade's project.
Are there more than two proposed treatments? Is one favoured over the other?
Where do we go to comment on any of them?
There seem to be different proposals for a redevelopment of Olive Morris House and the Town Hall, proposed by different architectural practices. All the council's office functions will be in the new OMH, rather than scattered around the borough - this has been in the works for a while. Thus it has to be tall to fit everyone in. The architectural challenge is to make the height frame and enhance the old Ace and the Town Hall, including its tower. Tricky.
One proposal seems to involve gutting most of the inside of the town hall to make a walkway through to a new space behind, linking everything together. That was the same one that seemed to suggest linking to St Matthews with a deftly-shaded bit of main road. Lovely idea, but they don't seem to have worked out what to do with the traffic. It could go the other side of the church, across Windrush Square I suppose, as that is so last decade's project.
Are there more than two proposed treatments? Is one favoured over the other?
Where do we go to comment on any of them?
Rushy
basically a scrotum
I think the proposed link is visual rather than closing traffic. A bit like they have done on the other side of the church with the raised cobbles adjacent to Windrush Square.
Olive Morris looks to be going fully resi from my brief look. The buildings lower down Brixton Hill* will be the offices.
*where Hambrook etc.. are.
stuff_it
Too skool for cool
At least that's what you hope they are....
stuff_it
Too skool for cool
Aye, but they could refurbish and change the name much more cheaply.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Same here.
If it's a decision made by Lambeth then I wouldn't take it for granted that demolition is *actually* the most economical option.
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