emma goldman
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saw this one recently thought it was good
"fuck the big society, smash the state"
"fuck the big society, smash the state"
home made placards for the 26th - slogan suggestions please.
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Maurice Picarda
Actually, might as well flounce.
I thought that you lot were marching in defence of the state against overenthusiastic libertarians.
Proper Tidy
Arsed
It's a bit daft really though isn't it
emma goldman
Member
why?
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
'this is not a placard' for a bit of surrealism
emma goldman
Member
i'm asking for suggestions, what would you say?
Proper Tidy
Arsed
'fuck the big society, smash the state'
It's just ultra-left sloganeering isn't it? I mean, do you think people will see it and go 'great idea, why did I never think of that'?
If only a series of people had developed a strategy for linking minimum and maximum demands...
Proper Tidy
Arsed
How about something like 'no cuts to jobs and services - make the bankers pay'. Not that ra-ra I know, but still.
fractionMan
Custom Title
Tories - putting the N in CUTS
"Destroy Capitalism and replace it with something nice"
fractionMan
Custom Title
Bring on the cuts
emma goldman
Member
Bring on the cuts
good, i like.
emma goldman
Member
I think that in terms of placards, and perhaps all propaganda, (many) people arent going to be interested in a set of intermediate and long-term strategic demands. People like language and ideas that they can relate too. "fuck the big society" - i think people can relate to that, "smash the state" - maybe not, but it might get (some) people thinking about the state and its detrimental role in our lives.
Besides i think lots of people like placards or slogans with swear words in them, i certainly do.
audiotech
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'Stay angry and keep fighting the cuts.'
'The Coalition of Millionaires'
'23 of 29 members of the cabinet are worth over £1,000,000'
'Reservoir Snobs'
(appropriate picture of suited Con-Dem cabinet members attached)
'We told them the wealth would trickle down.'
'Annoy a Conservative'
'Think for yourself'
'The fairness fairy says fuck the cuts.'
'Meet the Fockers'
(appropriate picture of Con-Dem ministers attached).
'The Coalition of Millionaires'
'23 of 29 members of the cabinet are worth over £1,000,000'
'Reservoir Snobs'
(appropriate picture of suited Con-Dem cabinet members attached)
'We told them the wealth would trickle down.'
'Annoy a Conservative'
'Think for yourself'
'The fairness fairy says fuck the cuts.'
'Meet the Fockers'
(appropriate picture of Con-Dem ministers attached).
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Has anyone got the cricket score?
emma goldman
Member
wicked - love it.
QueenOfGoths
Fuck you Dave!
A pic of David Cameron with 'Big Society' overlaid then underneath
"It's shit and so is he"
"It's shit and so is he"
Proper Tidy
Arsed
A lot of thinking and assuming here.
Who is it you want to read the placards? Other anarchists?
emma goldman
Member
The demo is billed as a march for an alternative.
What is that alternative?
I think that its possible to fight against the cuts, and still work towards a stateless society, not in a big society way but in a mutual aid, to each according to needs and ability way.
emma goldman
Member
no, anyone who's on the demo.
Proper Tidy
Arsed
Indeed it is but you appear to be missing out the middle
Proper Tidy
Arsed
I can just imagine all the dinner ladies and firemen and civil servants and other union members, not convinced yet of the need for a complete transformation of society, reading a placard saying 'smash the state' and thinking 'oh go on then'.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Tbf they're hardly lilkely to go, ooh a demand on a placard that ties together minimal demands that aim via w/c experience of fighting for them to maximal demands either. People remember the funny ones and that's it. Nothing else.
Proper Tidy
Arsed
Indeed.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
As someone with some sentiments in common with the OP, I agree with the above.
Targeting slogans wisely is the best way to have any hope of meaningful impact at this one.
Too easy for the meeja to sow the seeds of confusion otherwise.
Proper Tidy
Arsed
People do remember the funny ones, yes. But I think people will also remember at least the sentiment if they see thousands getting the basics across, like 'fight the cuts' or 'tax the rich'.
Which is why we all remember 'can't pay won't pay' for example.
emma goldman
Member
I dont think that when people see any placard that they go "ok then, oh why didnt i think of that". Its a placard, you can use it to express what you feel and think. I'm a member of a union, lots of people i know are in unions, we dont all have the same ideas or politics, thats obvious but when i saw that "fuck the big society etc" banner it made me laugh. I thought it was good and perfectly described how i feel. You obviously think its stupid, thats fine. Lets hear one of your slogans/placard suggestions.
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