DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
doing bidenomics with no money is one line I've seen on this. So bullshit basically. Voodoo.
Hold your nose and vote Labour?
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redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
Likewise, anyone who has stood on a picket line or tried to talk to fellow workers about unions has to deal with awkward questions. Most do a lot better than those fools.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
When I was flying over to the UK last week I sat next to a chap who turned out to be an ex-Tory Councillor from Preston. His opinion was that neither the Tories or Labour had any ambition for the country whatsoever and that whilst they kept harking back to the past they would have been out of their depth in managing the economy and essential services in the past they keep referencing. Absolutely no ambition he kept saying and it's a phrase I kept repeating in the UK for my stay.
Silas Loom
Advanced. Forthright. Signifficant.
What would “ambition for the country” look like? I can’t see how that goes further than a slogan. It’s certainly not a policy or a goal.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
I'll ask for an upgrade on passengers sitting next to me on Ryanair next time I use them. I suppose off the top of my head , mixing things we had and took for granted and things we might need, quite extravagant and frivolous issues like building more houses both public and private , regulation of rents, and mixing things we had and things we might need developing a skilled and rewarded workforce , expanding employment opportunities, an NHS that still had NHS dentistry, opticians, home visits by doctors, and regulation of utility industries so that we don't have shit in rivers and peoples gardens, an industrial and economic plan, perhaps even a green deal underpinning economic expansion?
Didn't you start a thread on what practical steps Starmer could take to move to a Republic?
Silas Loom
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Those all sound like good goals. I still choose to believe that Labour shares them but is still traumatised enough by 1992 to be terrified of anything that might lead to “tax bombshell” posters. I just don’t relate any of them to a nebulous concept like “ambition for the country”.
It’s always best to pay Ryanair the £5 extra not to be seated next to former Tory councillors.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
I think it was Mulder in the X-Files who also wanted to believe. I would probably pay a fiver not to sit next to anyone and a £10 not to sit next to someone who believed in Labour tbh
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
I'd pay £20 not to sit next to someone who believed in labour and wanted to share
tommers
Fuck it, it's fine.
What does "wide ranging supply side reform" mean? Getting stuff cheaper?
Silas Loom
Advanced. Forthright. Signifficant.
The most immediately obvious supply-side reform would be to rejoin the common market. Free trade is classic supply side economics.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
jesus mary and joseph
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
sadly the common market isn't on offer
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
Starmer & Reeves are the secret Thatcher fanclub.
PR1Berske
Alligator in chains by the park gates.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Reeves and Starmer genuinely seem to believe that the private sector will step in with the cash. And that, presumably, the last 45 years haven't actually happened.
Post 1945, New Deal America, Bidenomics, even Trump, in fact any reterritorial/domestic demand/rescure-recovery project I can think of starts from the premise of state intervention and spending. Bar this one...
Bullshit isn't a strong enough word to capture Reeves plan.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
corporate tax cuts, deregulation, and low capital borrowing rates
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
It’s nebulous business speak for people who think the economy is modelled on the Apprentice . Not for the likes of you and me or anyone else not invited to the debate . You’ve got to believe though .
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tommers
Fuck it, it's fine.
Hahaha, the shift leftward when they get into power is going to be something to behold.I expect the success of her economic growth plan will allow for Labour to enact redistributive policies
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
yeh they'll just be on the right then, not the radical right. fucking bunch of pox-ridden posers.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
yeh they're the party of work not the party of workers.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Exactly, and just look at the context of the delivery of that 'lecture'. This is the pawn cocktail offensive on steroids.
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
pawn shops will enjoy a a renaissance under shammer
krtek a houby
Anger is Hi-NRG
Would be turned away
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
yeh anyone who gives the matter any consideration is repulsed by shammer and his nefandous crew
krtek a houby
Anger is Hi-NRG
Just how many times have women in the two parties been compared to or marketed as a new Thatcher?
It's not going to fly.
It's not going to fly.
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