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has Disco Dave Cameron put his foot in it?

trevhagl said:
told you unmpteen times why i voted lib dem.
I predict this is the ONLY thing the Disco Dave alliance will ever do to piss off the rich. I'm gonna enjoy it while it lasts !!
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I told you umpteen times why you voted lib-dem and why you're now supporting the cuts of the coalition. Because you're a a mug.
 
butchersapron said:
Moron
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trevhagl said:
explain why oh mr always right
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Pickman's model said:
as i've said on another thread, this is accelerating an already existing process, by no means the start of a new process. you only have to look at whitechapel or the kingsland road to see what's already been happening.
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The need to be right is the sign of a vulgar mind. Albert Camus

You must go beyond 'this is the correct interpretation' or you have no politics in the real world. AS it goes I can see that the policy is part of divide and rule, but we have to recognise that ruling ideology if it is to work must have a material base. This is not in anyway a victory for the working class, but it DOES for once take money off the better off, and for that reason alone, is enjoyable as Trev says.
 
butchersapron said:
I told you umpteen times why you voted lib-dem and why you're now supporting the cuts of the coalition. Because you're a a mug.
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can you not understand i was voting AGAINST a stasiist warmonger? Someone who would want us all to carry ID cards and be monitored ?
 
The Black Hand said:
The need to be right is the sign of a vulgar mind. Albert Camus

You must go beyond 'this is the correct interpretation' or you have no politics in the real world. AS it goes I can see that the policy is part of divide and rule, but we have to recognise that ruling ideology if it is to work must have a material base. This is not in anyway a victory for the working class, but it DOES for once take money off the better off, and for that reason alone, is enjoyable as Trev says.
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oh dear, you'll be getting my share of the abuse now.

But got it in one.
 
trevhagl said:
the working class i'm afraid , am i banned from the forum?
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Carry on Trev, I know you don't pay attention to the our Ultra left leaders, and there's no reason why you should cos they do not see things like the 'people in the street' do. Hence our U75s moralists will call it wrong mostly.
 
The Black Hand said:
Carry on Trev, I know you don't pay attention to the our Ultra left leaders, and there's no reason why you should cos they do not see things like the 'people in the street' do. Hence our U75s moralists will call it wrong mostly.
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i should get that cutted & pasted in bold type because it sums up many on here. No one i would ever bump into in the pubs where i go would say "lets's defend child benefit for the rich!"

Wonder where this lot drink?

Silly question, they probably never leave the house...
 
The Black Hand said:
The need to be right is the sign of a vulgar mind. Albert Camus

You must go beyond 'this is the correct interpretation' or you have no politics in the real world. AS it goes I can see that the policy is part of divide and rule, but we have to recognise that ruling ideology if it is to work must have a material base. This is not in anyway a victory for the working class, but it DOES for once take money off the better off, and for that reason alone, is enjoyable as Trev says.
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So for the enjoyment afforded by the loss of £20 a week to people earning in excess of £45,000 per annum, you are willing to laugh along with Trev (who described the policy as brave and fair) at an important attack on universalism. There is evidence of a lack of real world politics; just not where you are pointing the finger.

Louis MacNeice
 
trevhagl said:
who woulda thought, socialists supporting money being taken from the rich!! bloody commies, put em in the army i say
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Wages have steadily fallen you half-wit and a lot of debt has been taken up instead to deal with the issue of effective demand that would have fallen without this debt.

Hedge fund owners don't earn 44k, or even 88k.

They took £3 billion each over just one year.

THE EXCESSIVE POWER OF FINANCE CAPITAL IS AT THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM!

Not someone on less than £100k

!
 
audiotech said:
Wages have steadily fallen you half-wit and a lot of debt has been taken up instead to deal with the issue of effective demand that would have fallen without this debt.

Hedge fund owners don't earn 44k, or even 88k.

They took £3 billion each over just one year.

THE EXCESSIVE POWER OF FINANCE CAPITAL IS AT THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM!

Not someone on less than £100k

!
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agreed. I would never in a million years expect the Tories to hit THESE but i am still in shock that they've hit well off people...
 
discokermit said:
no you're not trev. you're on the side of the tories. in fact you're cheerleading for the fuckers.
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No he's not. Trev is giving an honest response to the policy of the government. In this case, it is going in the direction the left wants (the rich to pay more) so it is not as controversial as the keyboard warriors around here are making it appear.
 
audiotech said:
Wages have steadily fallen you half-wit and a lot of debt has been taken up instead to deal with the issue of effective demand that would have fallen without this debt.

Hedge fund owners don't earn 44k, or even 88k.

They took £3 billion each over just one year.

THE EXCESSIVE POWER OF FINANCE CAPITAL IS AT THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM!

Not someone on less than £100k

!
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Word !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
The Black Hand said:
No he's not. Trev is giving an honest response to the policy of the government. In this case, it is going in the direction the left wants (the rich to pay more) so it is not as controversial as the keyboard warriors around here are making it appear.
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I usually enjoy your posts, but this is just delusional.
 
trevhagl said:
as it stands yes, but i can see people's point about it being a sneaky way to go further.
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that's the fucking point of it trev, you fucking thick clart. do you think the tories want to attack those who are well off?
everything they do is part of a sneaky way to go further and fuck us over. everything.
 
The Black Hand said:
The need to be right is the sign of a vulgar mind. Albert Camus

You must go beyond 'this is the correct interpretation' or you have no politics in the real world. AS it goes I can see that the policy is part of divide and rule, but we have to recognise that ruling ideology if it is to work must have a material base. This is not in anyway a victory for the working class, but it DOES for once take money off the better off, and for that reason alone, is enjoyable as Trev says.
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So would making them pay for GP visits; would you enjoy that too?

Louis MacNeice
 
The Black Hand said:
No he's not. Trev is giving an honest response to the policy of the government. In this case, it is going in the direction the left wants (the rich to pay more) so it is not as controversial as the keyboard warriors around here are making it appear.
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i don't think they can understand that. Many of them are on 44 grand + and are very very pissed off, i think that is more the truth of the matter. That would be like me losing 30p a week
 
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