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Happy 100th Birthday, Council Housing.

Watched it tonight - really good. Such a counter to all the negativity about council housing. Recommended if you haven't already seen it.

I didn't realise it was a series! I thought it was a one-off. Looking forward to the next one.
 
I've been on the housing list in Edinburgh since 2009. Still in a private let, currently paying £1140 a month rent. No sign of any escape from that anytime soon. We're housed, as far as the council is concerned.
That'd likely get you kicked off the housing list down here now.

Brighton council's housing policy seems to consist of "reviewing existing applications" and kicking people off the list for any nonsense reason they can come up with. Mine was that I had "use of a bedroom" (in a homeless hostel that was about to shut down).

Shit's fucked.
 
George Clark programme's really good. Agreed with everything he said. Interested to see how he gets on lobbying govt / building his estate.
He did an empty homes campaign a few years ago , asked people to contact him anout empty homes. I did contact him about a small block near me . It has now been developed (but privately) I don't know how successful that campaign was.
 
Kind of bottled it on RTB though. There are no reasons for buying council stock, even if the council uses the money to build more - the issue, for me, is to erode the whole fucking property ownership thing (and resulting bribes to counteract wage stagnation) - just another division between haves and have-nots. Not acceptable, imo and certainly should not be facillitated by state housing rights.....so sorry George, credibility somewhat tattered since it turns out his 'idyllic' council house is no longer in the system.
I have been a council tenant for 40 years (as were my parents eventually) - the issue is not having the ability to generate equity because of housing bubbles...but security. Nothing wrong with secured tenure as opposed to ownership, particularly in a system which had a plentiful supply, enabling flexibility, swapping, downsizing, relocating and so on. Councils arrive 'in profit' even before the tenure of a single long-term tenant has ended...so keeping housing stock in the system as well as continual resupply, is the way to go.
 
I think that's a good point campanula.

If his Mum had genuine security of tenure/knew her kids could get the tenancy after she'd gone she might not have felt it nevessary to exercise her RTB.

We're a long long way from anything approaching that atm though.
 
If his Mum had genuine security of tenure/knew her kids could get the tenancy after she'd gone she might not have felt it nevessary to exercise her RTB.

It may not apply to all housing stock in all councils, but my tenure allows for a 'turnover' in the event of death, leaving either a partner or offspring still living in my house. Frankly, I cannot see how it should be argued that council tenancies simply pass along to offspring if they are all securely housed as the system was always predicated on housing needs, rather than any tights as such...and this seems entirely fair. I also find it kind of mind-blowing when adult children expect free residential care for elderly parents while keeping the presumably now vacant parental home as an asset/inheritance...but am honest to admit that this comes from a place of never having had anything to lose.
 
I'd like there to be enough houses so that people had the choice to pass the tenancy on.

It does happen - most councils/HA's have tenancy succession policies but the rules can be complex and you normally only get a definite answer when someone dies. It's really sad when you get an elderly person asking you if their kids can have the tenancy as you can't give an answer. I'd like there to be enough houses to give people the choice.
 
I was a housing officer for 2 years and I still don't understand the rules for succession btw. They were always ridiculously complex imo.
At the moment , there is one mandatory succession , so if a tenant dies , an adult child would be able to succeed (although we would suggest downsizing) After that it is discretionary, otherwise you could have a family staying in the same house for several generations. It does get complicated, if there is a joint tenancy and one tenant dies, they become a sole tenant and that change of tenancy counts as a succession.
 
At the moment , there is one mandatory succession , so if a tenant dies , an adult child would be able to succeed (although we would suggest downsizing) After that it is discretionary, otherwise you could have a family staying in the same house for several generations. It does get complicated, if there is a joint tenancy and one tenant dies, they become a sole tenant and that change of tenancy counts as a succession.

What would be wrong with a family living in the same home for generations though? If they need a home then they need a home surely??
 
I'd like there to be enough houses so that people had the choice to pass the tenancy on.

It does happen - most councils/HA's have tenancy succession policies but the rules can be complex and you normally only get a definite answer when someone dies. It's really sad when you get an elderly person asking you if their kids can have the tenancy as you can't give an answer. I'd like there to be enough houses to give people the choice.
What would be an extremely sad situation would be if a daughter or son had given up their own home in order to move in with, and care for, an elderly parent, but would be immediately homeless on death of ill parent or on ill parent moving into residential care.

Anyway, Happy Birthday to Council Housing and cheers to all those who made it happen. :thumbs::)
 
What would be wrong with a family living in the same home for generations though? If they need a home then they need a home surely??
Perhaps because then there might be an issue of people who could better afford something else taking up a council tenancy even if others might have greater need of it.
 
If we had more Council Housing that would be fine , and that would have been more commonplace before RTB ravaged the stock.
Is Right to Buy going to be stopped in England? I think it still goes on there, but I do hope that it will be killed off.
 
Perhaps because then there might be an issue of people who could better afford something else taking up a council tenancy even if others might have greater need of it.

I don’t believe people should be kicked out of council housing once they pass a certain ‘earnings’ threshold or no longer have particular needs or whatever. That’s not how you build and sustain good communities.
 
If we had more Council Housing that would be fine , and that would have been more commonplace before RTB ravaged the stock.

I am sure it was, but I’ve worked with folk who have been asked to leave the home because the council won’t succeed the tenancy again and are now living in hotel rooms. It makes no sense to me.
 
I don’t believe people should be kicked out of council housing once they pass a certain ‘earnings’ threshold or no longer have particular needs or whatever. That’s not how you build and sustain good communities.
I agree , the Tories tried to bring that in a few years ago and failed :thumbs:
 
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