Guinness Trust plans for Loughborough Park Estate

[shifting gears]

Oh yeah - and moderate? Yeah right.

Moderate Tory, perhaps.

 

[ViolentPanda]

This is one of the funniest things about the mindset on here. It's like sixth form Paxman. Not only do you bark up every wrong tree but you can't even bark. How's the election polling thread coming along?

Again interesting. My point having been that you should be charging Guinness Trust/Partnership for acting as their advocate. Sorry if the nuance confused you!

 

[ViolentPanda]

If I'm the "other poster", it's interesting that you'd conflate 'building status' with 'actually giving a fuck, not wanting to see people forced from their homes' and empathising, because not other things, I'm in a precarious position, housing wise, myself.

So for someone banging on about conflating, give yourself a good star in.... Yep, conflating.

Knobs like you just can't get it through your head can you - concepts of solidarity, of fighting for justice, of community action, of taking the side of the oppressed and victimised; because you're so enslaved to 'the law' and outmoded justifications like 'that's just the way the world works' .

I disagree.
Most of them aren't "enslaved". That implies that they're compelled/coerced into such opinions. What they actually do is actively choose to hold such opinions.
Which is why they are "knobs".

You're a no mark twat, and I'm pretty sure I've picked your old persona too.

flimsier? He was definitely a no-mark twat.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Marginalising moderates is a political tactic.
And it must be quite satisfying to classify oneself as good and others as bad.

Marginalisation is a political tactic "full stop". It affects the entire spectrum of discourse, not merely moderate discourse.
As a journo you made a living by taking (or pretending to take) sides (because no journo is a neutral reporter of fact, however fondly they imagine themselves to be) and doing exactly what you're now decrying.

 

[leanderman]

As a journo you made a living by taking (or pretending to take) sides (because no journo is a neutral reporter of fact, however fondly they imagine themselves to be) and doing exactly what you're now decrying.

That's a weak argument. My (presumed) work practices have no relevance here

 

[shifting gears]

That's a weak argument

Agreed.

 

[shifting gears]

In terms of your bullshit handwringing nonsense, that is.

 

[ViolentPanda]

That's a weak argument. My (presumed) work practices have no relevance here

You've admitting having worked as a journalist, therefore you're aware that what I say is accurate. That makes your "presumed work practices" relevant, insofar as they involve the practice of a form of hypocrisy ("x is good, y is bad") that you decry above in others.

 

[leanderman]

You've admitting having worked as a journalist, therefore you're aware that what I say is accurate. That makes your "presumed work practices" relevant, insofar as they involve the practice of a form of hypocrisy ("x is good, y is bad") that you decry above in others.

Not at all. I am interested only in the facts of the case.

You, on the other hand, want to keep the focus on my character, occupation, property status etc.

I guess that's another political tactic.

 

[editor]

Update:
Urgent appeal as mother and two children face eviction from Brixton Guinness Trust

 

[Up the junction]

"some of the information coming out hasn’t been entirely accurate, so we’ve decided to remove the story for now."


Amen. About friggin time BrixtonBuzz showed some perspective and sense - you let yourself be used, properly taken advantage of.

If lessons have been learned all is good and move on.

 

[editor]

If lessons have been learned all is good and move on.

You've absolutely no idea what you're talking about as usual, not that I give a fuck. Buzz is nowhere near perfect and even paid news outlets screw up with what they thought were reliable sources sometimes. We took it down the second any doubt was cast on the source and have now set up a way to verify any further updates on the topic. All pretty responsible, I'd say.

I don't care much for your nasty sniping because the work the site puts in for free is widely respected by many people and it's already done more for the community than a pointless keyboard troll like you could ever achieve.

 

[shifting gears]

"some of the information coming out hasn’t been entirely accurate, so we’ve decided to remove the story for now."


Amen. About friggin time BrixtonBuzz showed some perspective and sense - you let yourself be used, properly taken advantage of.

If lessons have been learned all is good and move on.

Prick.

 

[Up the junction]

I don't care much for your nasty sniping because the work the site puts in for free is widely respected by many people and it's already done more for the community than a pointless keyboard troll like you could ever achieve.

But at least "pointless keyboard troll" explained to you no one was fooled by you posting up images of sqautter evictions to illustrate what was [NOT] happening or going to happen at Guinness Trust. No one believed your conflation of legal rights and you made a fool of yourself.

People won't tell you this because they like you and you're friends, but you have undermined the credibility of BrixtonBuzz with faux reporting. Half the things you put up on there belong on U75 and not a publication seeking a place of respectability in the community.

In doing that you undermine the friends you work with and other contributors to BrixtonBuzz who make a huge effort to make their reporting fair, and judgement free.

You are dragging it down. 'editor' on a message board does not a journalist make.

 

[Dexter Deadwood]

The clue is in the name, fuck this sock puppet.

 

[editor]

Update from Gramsci :
Brixton Guinness Trust second occupation: keeping the pressure up

 

[SpamMisery]

Banned for "personal attacks" is a bit of a stretch isn't it? A few posts back shiftinggears called a user a "cunt" then later a "prick". No other content, just "prick". And you 'liked' it. I'm not saying ban shiftinggears (far from it), it's just we don't all appear to be playing by the same rules here, it's just not cricket.

http://www.urban75.net/forums/threa...hat-january-2015.330747/page-31#post-13683178

 

[editor]

Banned for "personal attacks" is a bit of a stretch isn't it? A few posts back shiftinggears called a user a "cunt" then later a "prick". No other content, just "prick". And you 'liked' it. I'm not saying ban shiftinggears (far from it), it's just we don't all appear to be playing by the same rules here, it's just not cricket.

http://www.urban75.net/forums/threa...hat-january-2015.330747/page-31#post-13683178

Hi. Please use the feedback forum for any issues related to site modding rather than assist the now banned poster in his quest to continually disrupt this thread which is about people losing their homes. FYI, the FAQ is pretty clear on this:

...endless personal attacks and needlessly disruptive conduct is not permitted and posters who continue such behaviour after being asked to stop will be banned

The admin team run this site in their own time and for no profit, so unprovoked or sustained personal attacks may result in a ban...

 

[Rushy]

It's all a bit confusing now. To get the thread back on track, perhaps we could have a summary of which reports were factually correct and which were based on understandable misunderstandings.

I don't intend to get into the debate about whether up the junction was banned for unprovoked personal attacks on the management or because of his determined attempts to draw attention to inaccuracies but, for those who wish to, I agree that this is not the thread in which to hold that debate.

 

[editor]

I was sent an urgent request to publicise what appeared to be the imminent eviction of one of the residents. This came from someone who lived on the estate and who knew the person being evicted very well. The person who thought that she was about to lose her home was scared and deeply concerned about her welfare. She has two children. The exact words of the piece were confirmed with the source before they were published.

However, it turned out that another option for housing was made available and so the original point of the piece was no longer valid, so on the advice of other activists, it was removed. Given the apparent urgency of the case and the confusion surrounding the goings-on at Guinness, I think it is understandable that wires might get crossed.

However, I am happy to say that the site proved instrumental in sorting out transport for the person who had to move out.

It would appear that to some people, all this just provides a backdrop for point scoring online 'sport', but I'd ask for a little more respect to be shown.

 

[teuchter]

http://www.trust.org/item/?map=the-importance-of-fact-checking-for-journalists/

I am sure that the intentions were and are good but accuracy and credibility are important for Brixton Buzz to best serve local causes.

 

[Gramsci]

However, I am happy to say that the site proved instrumental in sorting out transport for the person who had to move out.

It would appear that to some people, all this just provides a backdrop for point scoring online 'sport', but I'd ask for a little more respect to be shown.

And having talked to those concerned there is no criticism of Brixton Buzz from them. The opposite in fact.

The lull in tedious point scoring directed at Ed has now finished I see. It was nice while it lasted.

 

[Gramsci]

Update from Gramsci :
Brixton Guinness Trust second occupation: keeping the pressure up

Thanks for putting up the report.

Another photo of banner made by one of the occupiers. As said in the update they would welcome people to come down to the occupation. More details in the report.

 

[ViolentPanda]

And having talked to those concerned there is no criticism of Brixton Buzz from them. The opposite in fact.

Not a surprise.

The lull in tedious point scoring directed at Ed has now finished I see. It was nice while it lasted.

Wankers will be wankers, unfortunately.

 

[Dexter Deadwood]

And having talked to those concerned there is no criticism of Brixton Buzz from them. The opposite in fact.

The lull in tedious point scoring directed at Ed has now finished I see. It was nice while it lasted.

It never stopped and what they do extends beyond their primary focus, which you have correctly identified, to others and by the nature of this Board those ripples are felt on a personal level.
When people who would ordinarily say hello turn their back on you, worse still, the backstabbers who greet you as some kind of friendly acquaintance but are so dishonest as they look you in the eye that they are frankly laughably weak, when stuff gets leaked as alliances alter, one sees a broader picture and how it can impact on an individual's mental health.

All of that is of little or no concern to the main protagonists, it's mostly about ego and ownership, people who get in their way are fair game in their mind but it's not a fair game; it's an accident waiting to happen.

 

[ViolentPanda]

It never stopped and what they do extends beyond their primary focus, which you have correctly identified, to others and by the nature of this Board those ripples are felt on a personal level.
When people who would ordinarily say hello turn their back on you, worse still, the backstabbers who greet you as some kind of friendly acquaintance but are so dishonest as they look you in the eye that they are frankly laughably weak, when stuff gets leaked as alliances alter, one sees a broader picture and how it can impact on an individual's mental health.

All of that is of little or no concern to the main protagonists, it's mostly about ego and ownership, people who get in their way are fair game in their mind but it's not a fair game; it's an accident waiting to happen.

What most of these rectums don't realise is that when they mark the cards of others, they mark their own, too. Now that's fine if you don't give a fuck about your reputation, but many of the rectums do give a fuck about their "standing", so you'd think they'd be a little more sensible about acting like cunts. Perhaps they're not as sharp as they think they are? After all, you'd have to be a bit damaged, cowardly or plain despicable to continually chivvy those with less power than you, rather than going after the J. Knight Esqs of this world - or maybe they have more in common with such people than they like to admit?

 

[Gramsci]

Another blockade tomorrow:

Unfortunately I will not be able to be at this one.

BLOCKADE This Tuesday Morning!

In recent times we have found the blockades to have been very successful, so we’re back at it again!

Shorthold Tenants, Camelot Renters, Secure Tenants, and Supporters! Let’s show Guinness that we’re still not happy with their conduct – not with their treatment of shorthold tenants , not with their usage of guardian companies and their exploitation of the guardians, not with their use of dog units for security, and not with their regeneration schemes that will price-out even some of the secure tenants!

Join at the entrance to the estate, SW9 8NN, at 8:30am, and bring your voices, your banners, and your stories. Let’s work together and keep the pressure up.

Please share widely, and hope to see you down there!

P.S. There may or may not be a march and an action happening after the blockade, let’s keep them guessing!

 

[editor]

Buzzed;
Brixton Guinness Trust campaigners plan another blockade: Tues 26th May 8.30am

I can't make it either but if anyone is going and can take some pics please drop me a line.

 

[shifting gears]

Gonna try and make this, fucked after working about 7 days straight, but doubt phone pics would cut the mustard.... Nonetheless I'll try and take some in case anyone else can't.

 

[editor]

Gonna try and make this, fucked after working about 7 days straight, but doubt phone pics would cut the mustard.... Nonetheless I'll try and take some in case anyone else can't.

Phone pics are usually OK! It's just good to have some kind of record to share and show people that resistance is happening and help is needed.