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Not Serb. No, Really!
Not the ideal person to wake up to. He called the presenter a 'gentile liberal or lefty,' denied holocaust denial and mentioned Nick Clegg's arson conviction. They didn't press him on losing about 10,000 members in the last couple of years.
 
they sure did. after the MEP success they had about 12k i think. he has lost the vast majority of em through incompetence. edit: 11,000.
 
Was weak pathetic shit. All they could do was accuse him of being nasty and hate filled, and holocaust denial. He deflected it easily with seeming 'good humour'. Is that all the establishment have after hes been doing the round for the last 10 years or so?
 
Saw their party political broadcast on telly yesterday. I know they've always liked to portray themselves as fearless bulldogs fighting for Britain etc but they seem to be getting increasingly conspiracy theorist as they close ranks these days. Lots of stuff about how they'd been censored for telling "the truth" and how they were subverting the mainstream media (ie by using - get this - The Internet) :eek: Seemed pretty desperate to me.
 
Brixton Hatter said:
shit interview….NG was talking about '"too many brown people, too many poles and pakistanis" and wasn't even challenged. Fuck sake
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Were they giving him enough rope? :hmm: is it remit business to let them have a % of the platform?

2010 called wanting it's thrusting policital surprises back! We've moved on.
 
Does anyone give politicians a hard interview these days? I can't remember the last time I saw anyone squirm. This is why stuff like Shapps happens.
 
Voley said:
Saw their party political broadcast on telly yesterday. I know they've always liked to portray themselves as fearless bulldogs fighting for Britain etc but they seem to be getting increasingly conspiracy theorist as they close ranks these days. Lots of stuff about how they'd been censored for telling "the truth" and how they were subverting the mainstream media (ie by using - get this - The Internet) :eek: Seemed pretty desperate to me.
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Desperate indeed; it amounted to 5 mins of click-bait teasing with the message that we've made a cartoon (handy if no humans can be persuaded to be filmed) so racist that 'they' won't allow you to see it...FFS. Also was that some sort of vicar telling me to vote BNP?
 
brogdale said:
Desperate indeed; it amounted to 5 mins of click-bait teasing with the message that we've made a cartoon (handy if no humans can be persuaded to be filmed) so racist that 'they' won't allow you to see it...FFS. Also was that some sort of vicar telling me to vote BNP?
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Robert West?
 
The cartoon is racist, and quite shit.

The vicar is also a fake, and that quite obviously isn't his church. It's ripe for parody.
 
Dogsauce said:
The cartoon is racist, and quite shit.

The vicar is also a fake, and that quite obviously isn't his church. It's ripe for parody.
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The padlock on the 'church' door that he fiddled with was a bit of a giveaway? Oh, I've just remembered...that fucking bit with the 'veteran' reminding us that polling day is the "anniversary" of Lee Rigby's murder.
 
I thought people in the armed forces couldn't openly express political views? I get that he's not really, but surely that should extend to dressing people up in forces garb and having them express political views too
 
smmudge said:
I thought people in the armed forces couldn't openly express political views? I get that he's not really, but surely that should extend to dressing people up in forces garb and having them express political views too
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Are you serious? People dressed in fake military uniform or ex-military (i.e a blazer and beret in this case) should not be able to openly express a political opinion? Forever? Really?

What about people faking being massive chickens?
 
Voley said:
Saw their party political broadcast on telly yesterday. I know they've always liked to portray themselves as fearless bulldogs fighting for Britain etc but they seem to be getting increasingly conspiracy theorist as they close ranks these days. Lots of stuff about how they'd been censored for telling "the truth" and how they were subverting the mainstream media (ie by using - get this - The Internet) :eek: Seemed pretty desperate to me.
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I'm not so sure.
There's money to be made from conspiracising, and CT's "politics" (insofar as it has a dominant one) is reactionary and more inclined to the right than the left. Griffin may have decided that chasing the loonspud pound will be financially and politically profitable.
 
butchersapron said:
Are you serious? People dressed in fake military uniform or ex-military (i.e a blazer and beret in this case) should not be able to openly express a political opinion? Forever? Really?

What about people faking being massive chickens?
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If it's explicitly fictional then that's different, but in the broadcast we're told they're people just like us and there isn't any small print to say they're actors that I saw. If you can't do it for real-real I don't see why you should be able to get people do it for fake-real to persuade people to vote for you. I'm looking at it from the point of view not from the people expressing those opinions but those listening to them. Dunno, just thought that might be a factor in the rule of people in the military not being able to express a political opinion, maybe that's got nothing to do with it.
 
smmudge said:
If it's explicitly fictional then that's different, but in the broadcast we're told they're people just like us and there isn't any small print to say they're actors that I saw. If you can't do it for real-real I don't see why you should be able to get people do it for fake-real to persuade people to vote for you. I'm looking at it from the point of view not from the people expressing those opinions but those listening to them. Dunno, just thought that might be a factor in the rule of people in the military not being able to express a political opinion, maybe that's got nothing to do with it.
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He's ex-army. He's entitled to wear what he did. He wasn't an actor. You're allowed to express political views in the forces - you're not allowed take part in formal political activity (including marches) whilst in uniform.

I really don't understand this argument anyway - actors shouldn't be allowed to act? Or they shouldn't be allowed to act as if they have political views? Os they shouldn't be allowed to express them whilst acting? Any of these are pretty draconian - a tad heavy.
 
butchersapron said:
He's ex-army. He's entitled to wear what he did. He wasn't an actor. You're allowed to express political views in the forces - you're not allowed take part in formal political activity (including marches) whilst in uniform.

I really don't understand this argument anyway - actors shouldn't be allowed to act? Or they shouldn't be allowed to act as if they have political views? Os they shouldn't be allowed to express them whilst acting? Any of these are pretty draconian - a tad heavy.
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It wasn't an argument it was a query - I wasn't even sure what the rule was. I now feel perfectly assured that there's nothing wrong with using this tactic. I will be able to sleep tonight.
 
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