Googles Nexus 7 tablet discussion, reviews

[tarannau]

Love the hyperbole. Not sure I've ever got anywhere near put Google on death watch, but it helps explain their efforts in subsidising, or at least making minimal profits, on the Nexus. It's an interesting gamble, buying their way into another market to help preserve share of search/advertising revenues. Good for the consumer, perhaps not for makers of other tablets trying to enter the market, Android competitors particularly.

 

[editor]

Good for the consumer, perhaps not for makers of other tablets trying to enter the market, Android competitors particularly.

Good for the consumer suits me.

 

[elbows]

Love the hyperbole. Not sure I've ever got anywhere near put Google on death watch, but it helps explain their efforts in subsidising, or at least making minimal profits, on the Nexus. It's an interesting gamble, buying their way into another market to help preserve share of search/advertising revenues. Good for the consumer, perhaps not for makers of other tablets trying to enter the market, Android competitors particularly.

Although I agree in some ways, I wouldnt quite put it like that. I dont think todays results have much to do with their nexus strategy.

All the ad-related companies know they need to be on mobile. Google came up with android not to buy their way in, they were already in, but to prevent them getting locked out in future, and to have more control.

But the problem is that cost-per-click on mobile is lower than desktop, reflecting the fact that the people buying the adverts currently believe people are less likely to actually make purchases on their mobile device. I am under the impression that people are also less likely to click on adverts on their mobile. All the companies can really do is hope this behaviour changes over time, and also try alternative approaches such as developing new modes of user interaction with things such as siri and google now, with plans to monetise this stuff more if it catches on.

It also sounds like cost-per-click is falling in general, so todays woes arent all about mobile.

As for the nexus, it can be seen as a response to generally poor android tablet sales, the continued ipad dominance, the threat that amazons own subsidised tablet universe has to google, trying to give the google play store additional momentum, and a pre-emtative strike against microsofts imminent tablet efforts. It was very wise of them to do this, we might well be reading lots of lazy but sort of true 'failure and death of the non-amazon android tablets' articles by now if they had just sat around and done nothing.

 

[Firky]

How much is everyone using of their HDD space on their N7? I'm using just over a third.

As I've said before, the places I tend to use it always have an internet connection: pubs, trains, cafes, at home in bed etc.

 

[editor]

As for the nexus, it can be seen as a response to generally poor android tablet sales, the continued ipad dominance, the threat that amazons own subsidised tablet universe has to google, trying to give the google play store additional momentum, and a pre-emtative strike against microsofts imminent tablet efforts. It was very wise of them to do this, we might well be reading lots of lazy but sort of true 'failure and death of the non-amazon android tablets' articles by now if they had just sat around and done nothing.

It's worth noting that the iPad's dominance is already in free fall against the rise of Android devices- hence Apple jumping into the 7" market.

In 2011, 81 per cent of tablet computers owned in the US were Apple iPads, but in 2012 that number fell to just 52 per cent, according to a report from the Pew Research Centre and the Economist Group
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/dig...n-ipad-mini-20121017-27r4z.html#ixzz29gTK6h5b

 

[skyscraper101]

I've got a WDTV Live and it's utterly brilliant. Not seen that app before though (I just use my phone as a remote control for the box), will investigate.

Did you get a chance to test that app out? Any good?

 

[elbows]

It's worth noting that the iPad's dominance is already in free fall against the rise of Android devices- hence Apple jumping into the 7" market.

That fits with my point, since its the amazon 7 inchers and the nexus 7 which have made this possible. Unless I've missed impressive sales of other android tablets, which is quite possible, please let me know where to look if I have.

I dont think I would use the phrase free fall, it doesnt seem to quite do justice to the state of the 10ish" tablet market, but I'm a bit out of date with reliable figures. I would certainly describe the 7" android successes as extremely impressive, a big story worth shouting about repeatedly. But the end of ipad dominance will be a big deal and I dont want to tell that story prematurely, especially when we dont yet know how microsoft are going to fare in the larger tablet space, or apple in the smaller one.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

I don't believe that only 52% of tablets owned in the US are iPads, unless you include a huge number of Kindles in that.

 

[elbows]

Perhaps Apple will start taking people to court for copying Jobs reality distortion field

 

[editor]

I don't believe that only 52% of tablets owned in the US are iPads, unless you include a huge number of Kindles in that.

21% is Kindle Fires, but it's worth bearing in mind that the 48% market share for Android doesn't include sales for the Nexus 7, so the Android share is probably greater now.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Where does that come from?

 

[editor]

Where does that come from?

Err, the Pew Research Centre Project?

http://www.journalism.org/analysis_report/device_ownership

 

[FridgeMagnet]

A link to the report where the graph came from? I didn't see it in the first article. It would be remiss of me not to read the report, after all.

 

[editor]

A link to the report where the graph came from? I didn't see it in the first article. It would be remiss of me not to read the report, after all.

Well it has the name at the bottom.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Is there an actual report then, which has the methodology and the criteria and definitions?

 

[editor]

Is there an actual report then, which has the methodology and the criteria and definitions?

Google is thataway but you have heard of Pew Research, yes?

 

[Badgers]

So for the earlier buyers...

When you first got your Nexus what should you do?
Is it worth rooting or something before setting up?

Any recommended cases?

 

[elbows]

That data is based on surveying 9,513 US adults, 22% of whom own a tablet.

http://www.journalism.org/analysis_report/future_mobile_news
http://www.journalism.org/analysis_report/device_ownership

 

[editor]

Among those who have both a tablet and smartphone, there is some operating system loyalty. A majority of iPad owners who also have smartphones have an iPhone (57%); just 32% have an Android phone. Similarly, 66% of those who have an Android tablet have an Android phone; 29% have an iPhone.

With Android sales massively dominating the smartphone market, that would suggest that there's a substantial amount who would prefer to buy an Android tablet

 

[rich!]

Has anyone tried using a WiFi portable storage device with the Nexus?

( Svn checkout has eaten half my space already...)

 

[Firky]

So for the earlier buyers...

When you first got your Nexus what should you do?
Is it worth rooting or something before setting up?

Any recommended cases?

I use this case:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Google-Nexu...BFQK/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1350692486&sr=8-2

I also bought a second 2 amp charger because the one it comes with has a pathetically short lead and they're less than a fiver on ebay.

 

[Badgers]

Good price £10 cheers.

I have to pick up a cable anyway as I just busted one

 

[Firky]

The apps I have, off the top of my head:

BBC News
BBC iPlayer
Guardian
Independent
Smart Tools
Google Night Sky
Sky Go
iPlayer
WDTV Remote (pointless if you don't have a WDTV box)
Various weather apps as I have a thing for the weather
Nikon Lenses
Ikea
TFL
Newcastle Metro & Buses
Swiftkey 3 (awesome, it is a must)
Couple of games I never play
eBay
Cormac McCarthy book, Blood Meridian
TapaTalk 3 and TapaTalk HD

Few more like wiki and Nat Geo, wifi scanners and so on

 

[Firky]

Oh Kik is dead good too, it's a multiplatform IM. I mainly use it to chat to teeps in the wee hours as it works on her iPhone.

 

[Badgers]

I mainly use WhatsApp for IM stuffs. Is Kik better/different then?

 

[Firky]

I don't know, I've only used Skype and it is better than that. Not as clunky.

 

[Badgers]

Skype is fine on PC but too slow on phone. WhatsApp is great for photos and such.

 

[magneze]

Tapatalk HD eh? Interesting - much better than the phone version?

Flipboard, TuneInn & BubbleUPNP are all worth getting too.

 

[Maurice Picarda]

I wish it was less easy accidentally to turn off.

 

[Badgers]

Tapatalk HD eh? Interesting - much better than the phone version?

Flipboard, TuneInn & BubbleUPNP are all worth getting too.

Got the Flipboard and TuneIn radio apps but not this bubble thing.