Gezi Park - Istanbul
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sihhi
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered
A lot of lost eyes here we have a university worker and a student from Yildiz Technical University's economics department.
http://haber.sol.org.tr/soldakiler/akademisyen-ve-ogrencisi-gozunu-kaybetti-haberi-74076
In addition to the death mentioned earlier, Ethem Sarisuluk a 26 year old local council repair worker has experienced some level of brain failure - on life support apparatus - after being shot in the head in Kizilay.
http://haber.sol.org.tr/soldakiler/akademisyen-ve-ogrencisi-gozunu-kaybetti-haberi-74076
In addition to the death mentioned earlier, Ethem Sarisuluk a 26 year old local council repair worker has experienced some level of brain failure - on life support apparatus - after being shot in the head in Kizilay.
albionism
A successful virus clinging to a speck of mud.
Apparently, a 20 year old was killed when a Taxi drove into a group of protesters.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/03/us-turkey-protests-death-idUSBRE9520KR20130603
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/03/us-turkey-protests-death-idUSBRE9520KR20130603
coley
Well-Known Member
What brave men they must be.
Just a small point, how can we know they are men behind the cannons?
sihhi
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered
Police positions related to skilled public order such as riot police with water duty are male only, similar to how the army is basically male only with women only in auxiliary fields although they can rise quite high in said fields.
sihhi
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered
I've no idea to be honest.
Dolmabahce mosque - a rare liberal tendency mosque didn't close its doors to protestors in Besiktas allowing it to become a makeshift point for medical students:
coley
Well-Known Member
Fair enough, my query was based on news night coverage which seemed to suggest a fear amongst Turkish women that they could lose a considerable measure of their equality under propositions being considered/ adopted by the current administration?
cybertect
It's grim up north (London)
[Couldn't find a previous post on the thread about the below, but I am on my phone]
Apparently, Erdogan's son-in-law, Berat Albayrak, is CEO of the company that has the contract to redevelop the neighbourhood (and it also has significant media holdings)
http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/06/02/why_turks_are_fighting_to_take_back_istanbul
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/de...on-project-to-be-done-in-tarlabasi-2010-05-13
Might have some bearing on the matter, if so...
Casually Red
tomorrow belongs to me
One of the left wing unions..CECEK.. has now called a 2 day strike .
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
Another protester dies. Also, my bold.
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/man-...n-more-evidence-needed-syria-chemical-weapons
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/man-...n-more-evidence-needed-syria-chemical-weapons
dennisr
the acceptable face
Great information and insight regardless of where you are sihhi - thanks for all the posts
dennisr
the acceptable face
Don't know how serious this is - but would be an essential part of any serious escalation. we can but hope...
Turkey's trade unions gather to coordinate general strike in protest of state terror
http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-982272
Update #1, June 3, 2013 - 15:56 (GMT) KESK said it would issue a "warning strike" on June 4-5 to condemn the brutal crackdown and vengeful violence on anti-government protesters over the last few days.
"The state terror implemented against mass protests across the country ... has shown once again the enmity to democracy of the AKP government," said a statement from the leftist confederation KESK, which also criticised PM Erdoğan for his "dismissal of millions of protesters as a "bunch of looters." The confederation has some 240,000 members in 11 unions.
Update #2, June 3, 2013 - 16:26 (GMT) In a similar fashion, DISK said it would also issue a "warning strike" on June 4-5. Alluding to Erdoğan's statements on Syria's Bashar Assad earlier this year, it added "a regime that tyrannizes its own people loses all legitimacy."
Turkey's trade unions gather to coordinate general strike in protest of state terror
http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-982272
Update #1, June 3, 2013 - 15:56 (GMT) KESK said it would issue a "warning strike" on June 4-5 to condemn the brutal crackdown and vengeful violence on anti-government protesters over the last few days.
"The state terror implemented against mass protests across the country ... has shown once again the enmity to democracy of the AKP government," said a statement from the leftist confederation KESK, which also criticised PM Erdoğan for his "dismissal of millions of protesters as a "bunch of looters." The confederation has some 240,000 members in 11 unions.
Update #2, June 3, 2013 - 16:26 (GMT) In a similar fashion, DISK said it would also issue a "warning strike" on June 4-5. Alluding to Erdoğan's statements on Syria's Bashar Assad earlier this year, it added "a regime that tyrannizes its own people loses all legitimacy."
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
Will the army be called in?
TitanSound
Mr Beardy Drummer
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
Yeah, i was reading that the police are somewhat overwhelmed by what they are being asked to do in terms of being out on their feet and knackered. Erdogan seemed to think they'd go away of their own accord, but if they dont, then what?
TitanSound
Mr Beardy Drummer
Then I doubt the army will go out against the protesters. If anything, I imagine a civil dispute between Erdogan's supporters and the protesters.
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
sebnem arsu @sebnemarsu
Deputy PM Arinc - police been advised not to use tear gas unless self-defense, vandalism and destruction not acceptable #occupygezi
10:43 AM - 4 Jun 2013
Deputy PM Arinc - police been advised not to use tear gas unless self-defense, vandalism and destruction not acceptable #occupygezi
10:43 AM - 4 Jun 2013
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
'The local council workers temporarily dismantle the barricades before they surely return tonight'
cybertect
It's grim up north (London)
Comments on YouTube and Reddit suggest it's not an ATM, but the door (of a cellar/bar?) where protesters were hiding
http://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/1fk81d/turkish_police_are_caught_vandalizing_an_atm_so/
ska invita
back on the other side
this is what im interested in. i read a thing about turkish politics just a month back - this http://www.socialistreview.org.uk/article.php?articlenumber=12268 - from that my understanding is that:
the AKP are a government acting in the interests of capital but against the state, and in particular the army, who uphold and embody the vision and principles of Turkey as set out by Ataturk - Turkish-sunni muslim-secular. These principles disenfranchise the majority of the population, and so the army has been central in enforcing this vision.
Whenever someone has been voted in who opposes Ataturk's vision the army carry out a coup and elections are held again. The AKP has held off covert coup attacks and propaganda smears and increased its vote ever since as a result.
SO the army is no friends of the AKP and probably welcome this destabilisation. History suggests they would love to move in and get the CHP back in power. I would GUESS Erdogan would have very frosty relations with the army and wouldn't want to call on them. the question is might the army make a move of their own accord? not yet i dont think, but if things escalate its not unimaginable.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Something to think about: a triple strike - public sector workers, metal workers and an investors strike.Obviously going to be different motivations and timetables but the question is there.
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