Bugpowder Dust
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Interesting decision from Chatham to start a supporters Whatsapp group. Presumably only admins will be able to post or will be chaos (can you do that on Whatsapp?)
General non league chat, match reports, photos etc
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darryl
this wasn't supposed to happen
Yeah, you can set up a broadcast-only channel, although the part of WhatsApp where the messages arrive isn't always obvious on the app.
With Twitter becoming ever more rancid it makes some sense, although obviously on WhatsApp you're at the whims of someone just as bad in Zuckerberg.
Pink Panther
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Isthmian Premier Division leaders Hornchurch are now looking for a new manager. I reckon that potentially blows the door open for someone else to finish top with a strong second half of the season.
Steve Morison: Sutton United appoint ex-Cardiff City boss as manager
League Two's bottom side Sutton United appoint former Cardiff City boss Steve Morison as their manager.
www.bbc.co.uk
AveryDave
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Will be very interesting to see if this makes a difference. If they retain the same squad they’ve got more than enough to keep going, and can’t imagine those providing the finance are going to cut their losses now.Isthmian Premier Division leaders Hornchurch are now looking for a new manager. I reckon that potentially blows the door open for someone else to finish top with a strong second half of the season.
Steve Morison: Sutton United appoint ex-Cardiff City boss as manager
League Two's bottom side Sutton United appoint former Cardiff City boss Steve Morison as their manager.www.bbc.co.uk
Pink Panther
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I'm sure all the best players will be under contract, they'll be on good wages, there's no incentive for any of them to want to leave. It's just a variable they don't need, the new manager will need to work with the players he inherits, so a poorly judged appointment could may upset the balance.
I always thought they were punching above their weight in landing Morison in the first place. There was always a possibility he'd get an offer he couldn't refuse at an inconvenient moment.
GOOD NEWS!
We’ve got a Channel of our own
i can promise it won’t ram tickets down your throats as much as our other channels but if there’s anything you want basically being sent direct to your phone let me know!
Can join our Dulwich channel here: Dulwich Hamlet FC
Nivag
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Change at Dartford, Dowson out
www.dartfordfc.com
Club Statement: Alan Dowson - Dartford Football Club Official Website
Over the years, we have said many times that Dartford Football Club is nothing without the network of supporters, local sponsors, friends and wider community who make the club what it is. The non-league game is very different from the big money business that national football has become and the...
www.dartfordfc.com
Have joined, thanks!GOOD NEWS!
We’ve got a Channel of our own
i can promise it won’t ram tickets down your throats as much as our other channels but if there’s anything you want basically being sent direct to your phone let me know!
Can join our Dulwich channel here: Dulwich Hamlet FC
Hamlet Pete
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Pink Panther
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I saw a cracking FA Vase tie yesterday, North Greenford United 2 Brixham 2, which the hosts won 5-3 on kicks from the penalty mark. It's a pretty unremarkable venue, tucked away in a dull suburb blighted by main roads and freight depots, but the match and the atmosphere (with almost half the crowd of around 200 travelling from the Devon coast, more than made up for that.
The Vase seems to retain a magic that's no longer really there for the FA Cup qualifying rounds or the Trophy.
The Vase seems to retain a magic that's no longer really there for the FA Cup qualifying rounds or the Trophy.
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Bugpowder Dust
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Oof, Dartford travelled all the way to Truro tonight only to find a frozen pitch waiting for them. Needless to say, they are not best pleased.
T Corcoran
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And this was the state of the pitch!
scousedom
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Top-level shit-housery from Truro.
tonysingh
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Oh that's cheered me right up. Couldn't happen to a nicer club.
Don't Slow Down
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At Non League level this shit has been going on for far too long. What it shows is the shitcunts that officiate from above and odious wankpots that sit on the boards of these leagues need to start thinking of the little supporter who pays their money to travel over land and sea to follow their club.
tonysingh
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Only when that's not Dartford fans because fuck them.
Don't Slow Down
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We have to have a united front against this.........
Unless it is Dartford, Leatherhead or Bognor
tonysingh
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We have to have a united front against this.........
Unless it is Dartford, Leatherhead or Bognor
Or Punjab Utd, Lordswood or Glebe.
Shitcunts all!
steeplejack
trapped lbw for a duck
Change at Dartford, Dowson out
Club Statement: Alan Dowson - Dartford Football Club Official Website
Over the years, we have said many times that Dartford Football Club is nothing without the network of supporters, local sponsors, friends and wider community who make the club what it is. The non-league game is very different from the big money business that national football has become and the...
Only a surprise he lasted as long. For the squad and the investment Dartford, whilst unlucky last season, haver had a very poor campaign this time around and it went stale there some time ago.
Pink Panther
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The minority of scumbags at Dartford won't be travelling to Devon for a midweek league game anyway, it's the best loyal supporters who get shafted.
He's been a serial winner as a manager. Promotion within 2 years at all 4 previous clubs he's managed: Walton & Hersham, Kingstonian, Hampton, Woking. Then 2nd place in his first season at Dartford, but of course that guarantees you nothing. I'm sure Dartford have a generous budget by normal standards, but I'm equally sure Yeovil, Torquay, Eastbourne, Havant and maybe a couple of others are spending more in that division. Only two can go up, and two of those are currently in the relegation zone.
This is a first failure in a 20 year managerial career encompassing 5 clubs. I guess most managers have a shelf life. Maybe his has expire? The game is full of managers who used to be successful but now seem to stumble into one more job after a string of sackings.
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I posed this in the Peckham thread bu thought this might be of interest here. This might have been the lowest crowd I've ever seen, given the size of the stadium, with Ide Hill now playing at Tombridge Angels' ground. There couldn't have been more than 40 fans there.
Their home crowd struggled to get into double figures and although it's miles better than their last ground, it's not particularly easy to get to.
Maybe they're gambling that the better ground will inspire the team to better things (they stuffed Peckham 5-2) but the place is painfully devoid of atmosphere - and that's with Peckham bringing along far more fans than your average team at this level.
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Their home crowd struggled to get into double figures and although it's miles better than their last ground, it's not particularly easy to get to.
Maybe they're gambling that the better ground will inspire the team to better things (they stuffed Peckham 5-2) but the place is painfully devoid of atmosphere - and that's with Peckham bringing along far more fans than your average team at this level.
In photos: Goals galore as Peckham get thumped 2-5 in a ludicrously large, empty stadium, Sat 13th Jan 2024
The last time we travelled to see Ide Hill take on Peckham they were playing at Wrotham School at a tiny ground with zero facilities for travelling fans. The club has now jumped to the opposite ext…
www.brixtonbuzz.com
steeplejack
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Yeah it's not a criticism of him as a manager- the record speaks for itself at the top end of non league. He'll bounce back into another job soon and has an enormous and obvious passion for the game. Sometimes things just don't work out and this season has really not played well at all there, even if as you say the promotion stakes have been even more fiercely contested than usual in Tier 6.
Dartford always struck me as having (on paper) a good budget and clearly very good infrastructure in their ground, but a bit of a village club mentality. IMO they should have stuck with Steve King (another marmite character) but relations behind the scenes between manager and directors became frosty very quickly.
tonysingh
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I appreciate your efforts to be magnanimous and reasonable, you always are so but on this I have to disagree with you. The decent fans at Dartford haven't done enough to bounce out their scumbag element ergo they've a share of blame to hold. I despise that club though I concede that not everyone will agree. Still, that's the beauty of football.
steeplejack
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It's been a while since I was at Dartford to be honest- not since the early days of Steve King. What's the scumbag element story? When I used to watch them now and then the most horrible thing about the club was the massive BUILT BY A CONSERVATIVE COUNCIL advert running the length of one stand.
tonysingh
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They've booed our players taking the knee.
There was an incident where several of their lot walked past our away support, saying overtly racist, homophobic, transphobic, islamaphobic and misogynistic things. I objected, was assaulted and then Dartford, as in the actual club, denied it ever happened and when asked for their cctv, said all but 1 camera was kaput.
From reading of other clubs experiences there, what happened wasn't an isolated incident either.
steeplejack
trapped lbw for a duck
They've booed our players taking the knee.
There was an incident where several of their lot walked past our away support, saying overtly racist, homophobic, transphobic, islamaphobic and misogynistic things. I objected, was assaulted and then Dartford, as in the actual club, denied it ever happened and when asked for their cctv, said all but 1 camera was kaput.
From reading of other clubs experiences there, what happened wasn't an isolated incident either.
Yuck, sorry to hear that. I checked- the last Dartford game I was at was the Christmas derby with Welling United up at Park View Road, just before Covid.
Well, I'll take my "Old-Fashioned Neutral" gate money elsewhere in future, when down in Kent.
Hamlet Pete
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Ide Hill is just up the road from me. Didn't realise they'd moved to Tonbridge AngelsI posed this in the Peckham thread bu thought this might be of interest here. This might have been the lowest crowd I've ever seen, given the size of the stadium, with Ide Hill now playing at Tombridge Angels' ground. There couldn't have been more than 40 fans there.
Their home crowd struggled to get into double figures and although it's miles better than their last ground, it's not particularly easy to get to.
Maybe they're gambling that the better ground will inspire the team to better things (they stuffed Peckham 5-2) but the place is painfully devoid of atmosphere - and that's with Peckham bringing along far more fans than your average team at this level.
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In photos: Goals galore as Peckham get thumped 2-5 in a ludicrously large, empty stadium, Sat 13th Jan 2024
The last time we travelled to see Ide Hill take on Peckham they were playing at Wrotham School at a tiny ground with zero facilities for travelling fans. The club has now jumped to the opposite ext…
Pink Panther
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It's all about getting promoted to the Southern Counties East League, although hooking up with a Step 2 club seems rather extreme. The Kent County League (Step 7) is the highest level you can play without floodlights and real spectator facilities. A number of other clubs in Peckham's division whose own grounds don't meet the grading for promotion have moved in with bigger neighbours in the last year or so.
I have to question the motivation for doing this. I don't suppose they got much paying support in Ide Hill, but who's going to watch them at Tonbridge? It's not even that local, Ide Hill is closer to Sevenoaks. Of course Chipstead moved in with Sevenoaks, then folded abruptly after only a few games last autumn.
Steps 5 and 6 are full of "village" clubs groundsharing in front of tiny attendances. I don't know anything about most of them. Some appear to be glorified parks teams where one or two benefactors must be spending thousands a year to play a league or two above their natural level. Others may have an extensive infrastructure of junior teams, so maybe it's a kind of marketing tool or status symbol for the club to have a men's team in the county league, but it must cost a fair bit to sustain that level in rent alone.
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hiraethified
I heard (but can't verify) that Ide Hill have stumped up £30,000 to play at TA's ground for three years. If that's true, I can't see how that's sustainable unless they've got a deep pocketed backer - but even then, they're unlikely to attract anything other than tiny crowds.
Pink Panther
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That doesn't surprise me at all. Which begs the questions of why are they doing this, and how are they funding it? On the face of it, it just looks like a rather vain ego trip for someone with a lot of spare cash.
These clubs become pointless in my view. Ide Hill playing in the village of Ide Hill serves a purpose. If you're going to travel to Tonbridge Angels to watch football you might as well support Tonbridge Angels.
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