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Artaxerxes said:
eBay, they are about all that are available on there of you look for ffp2 masks.

Paranoid they are a crock of shit fake of course.
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They're probably fine. There are more than enough N95 masks for everyone at this point so there's no need to be selling fakes. If the UK govt chooses to not get a decent supply for key workers, that is due to their own shitness, not a lack of availability. I have shipped boxes of them out of China and to loved ones, and since the virus was brought under control here, they can be manufactured and exported in great quantities.

These are basically identical to the kind I buy.
 
Yu_Gi_Oh said:
They're probably fine. There are more than enough N95 masks for everyone at this point so there's no need to be selling fakes. If the UK govt chooses to not get a decent supply for key workers, that is due to their own shitness, not a lack of availability. I have shipped boxes of them out of China and to loved ones, and since the virus was brought under control here, they can be manufactured and exported in great quantities.

These are basically identical to the kind I buy.
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Yeah those look like the ones.

Main downside is they aren’t individually wrapped (two packs of 10)
 
platinumsage said:
What's non-trivial? 1800 people die on the roads each year - is that cause enough to stay away from roads and pavements?
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Sorry my response was a bit glib but cv is different in that it's infectious if nothing else. But yes our safety priorities are generally all over the place.
 
I’m in the office today, came in 2 weeks ago also.

Mrs dropped me off in Aldgate which was crazy busy with traffic, cyclists and people walking, I caught the Met line to Baker St, tube was sparse and everyone was wearing a mask, it felt comfortable enough.

Office is pretty empty, security provide us with 2 masks in a sealed bag +
individual hand sanitizer (I sneakily get another pack when security change).

Our offices are fogged every weekend and occupied desks are thoroughly cleaned every night.

All in feels safe enough.
 
two sheds said:
Sorry my response was a bit glib but cv is different in that it's infectious if nothing else. But yes our safety priorities are generally all over the place.
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There is psychology involved here :hmm:. People are more scared of a) invisible things, b) things they can't control, c) things they've been told to be scared of.

Covid-19 ticks all the boxes, plane crashes are mainly (b) with a bit of (c), RTAs are...meh.
 
Numbers said:
I’m in the office today, came in 2 weeks ago also.

Mrs dropped me off in Aldgate which was crazy busy with traffic, cyclists and people walking, I caught the Met line to Baker St, tube was sparse and everyone was wearing a mask, it felt comfortable enough.

Office is pretty empty, security provide us with 2 masks in a sealed bag +
individual hand sanitizer (I sneakily get another pack when security change).

Our offices are fogged every weekend and occupied desks are thoroughly cleaned every night.

All in feels safe enough.
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Completely different experience on the way home. Jubilee line from Baker St, by the time the tube got to London Bdg every seat (30) was occupied + I counted approx’ 25 people standing, even tho’ everyone was wearing a mask it was uncomfortably busy and made me a tad tetchy.
 
ska invita said:
www.telegraph.co.uk

Coronavirus thrives at 4C, scientists find, raising fears of winter resurgence

It reflects a growing consensus that heat - in particular from sunlight - harms the virus’s ability to survive outside the body
www.telegraph.co.uk www.telegraph.co.uk
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It's the first weekend of a 6 week lockdown here in Melbourne. I wondered whether our recent surge is related to the fact that we're in the cooler south.

As we bunker down again it's really bringing home how this is how it's going to be until we get a vaccine. Open up, lockdown, repeat...
 
retribution said:
It's the first weekend of a 6 week lockdown here in Melbourne. I wondered whether our recent surge is related to the fact that we're in the cooler south.
As we bunker down again it's really bringing home how this is how it's going to be until we get a vaccine. Open up, lockdown, repeat...
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good luck with round 2...
it seems inevitable to me we're going to have a second lockdown in the uk (if not a third)....uk winters are colder and damper than melbourne - 4 degrees is much close to an average temperature...its partly that seeming inevitability that's making me try to embrace the summer and have as much fun in it as is possible....winter in lockdown would be really miserable and claustrophobic, so while the going is good im going to try and make hay
 
ska invita said:
good luck with round 2...
it seems inevitable to me we're going to have a second lockdown in the uk (if not a third)....uk winters are colder and damper than melbourne - 4 degrees is much close to an average temperature...its partly that seeming inevitability that's making me try to embrace the summer and have as much fun in it as is possible....winter in lockdown would be really miserable and claustrophobic, so while the going is good im going to try and make hay
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Thanks. Definitely (responsibly) enjoy what freedoms you can whilst you've got them!

Normally this weekend I'd be at Freerotation in Wales dancing to techno with friends. Instead I'm cooking pierogi, listening to mixes, and havin a dance in the kitchen in Australia.
 
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ive only a half size fridge and no room for a freezer so tend to shop every single day if working, or every other day if lazing. id love to have a stash, mainly as i dont like shopping + the odds of civilisational collapse seem high to me

friends living in remote western scotland would food shop once a month, a 5 hour round trip to Fort WIlliam, volvo estate packed to the gills. id find that so hard, shopping for a month - it takes some serious planning, both in shopping and consuming..no popping out to the corner shop there
 
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ska invita said:
ive only a half size fridge and no room for a freezer so tend to shop every single day if working, or every other day if lazing. id love to have a stash, mainly as i dont like shopping + the odds of civilisational collapse seem high to me

friends living in remote western scotland would food shop once a month, a 5 hour round trip to Fort WIlliam, volvo estate packed to the gills. id find that so hard, shopping for a month - it takes some serious planning, both in shopping and consuming..no popping out to the corner shop there
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We mostly eat veg so adjusting to a two week large shop was hard because fresh veg only last about a week if your lucky and you have to buy a ton.
 
ska invita said:
ive only a half size fridge and no room for a freezer so tend to shop every single day if working, or every other day if lazing. id love to have a stash, mainly as i dont like shopping + the odds of civilisational collapse seem high to me

friends living in remote western scotland would food shop once a month, a 5 hour round trip to Fort WIlliam, volvo estate packed to the gills. id find that so hard, shopping for a month - it takes some serious planning, both in shopping and consuming..no popping out to the corner shop there
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I've only had a camping fridge since I got here, which is good to hold milk and yoghourt and a few other bits but not much more. I got a half-height freezer a few years ago (in shed no. 2) on the insistence of a lodger and have to say it's been very useful over the last couple of months.
 
ska invita said:
ive only a half size fridge and no room for a freezer so tend to shop every single day if working, or every other day if lazing. id love to have a stash, mainly as i dont like shopping + the odds of civilisational collapse seem high to me

friends living in remote western scotland would food shop once a month, a 5 hour round trip to Fort WIlliam, volvo estate packed to the gills. id find that so hard, shopping for a month - it takes some serious planning, both in shopping and consuming..no popping out to the corner shop there
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Meant to post this on Badgers hoarding thread, woops!
 
First days work in 4 months, everything is heavier than I remember and after paying for travel and renewing my PLI for the year I'm down about £50 :doh:
 
Our offices will remain shut until at least end of September apparently - my guess is they won't reopen this year. It wouldn't be too hard to work at distance there, although they reckon they could only safely get 25% of people in there, but the main issue is getting there. Not going in is basically the best way I can help avoid spreading anything, as not commuting massively cuts down the number of people I come into close, prolonged contact with on a weekly basis and I can do my job from home and avoid thatv contact entirely.
 
Third week back at work and benefiting greatly from the exercise.
Still quiet on the cycle path even though I'm setting off an hour later than previously so little in the way of bad behaviour and I'm making more allowances for debutant cyclists.
On the main road coming home though, business as usual with close overtakes on a blind bend 100 yards from a roundabout - yesterday with me frantically signalling "keep back" due to the oncoming bus that only I could see and then gesticulating after them.
Thankfully as usual I quickly reverted to enjoying being outside as it's only a short road section before a park.
 
I'm feeling very negative at the moment with the situation as the majority of the news about the virus is not good at all. Apologies in advance because this post won't cheer anyone up.

The major breakouts in areas with warm climates and outdoor life just shows that the virus is happy regardless of the weather. We've had a pretty good lockdown compared to some but there are far too many who seem to think its all over, they just don't have any handle on the situation. I really fear for the next 6 - 8 months.

The news regarding antibodies and immunity is limited but what is out there is not good. More reports coming through about people who are catching it twice or more are beginning to seep through. The short to medium term health implications for some sound very grim. The long term health implications regarding lung scarring is unknown but given they are seeing it in asymptomatic people its hard to be anything other than worried.

I am pretty sure I had the virus back at the end of March. It was only a glancing blow but between me and my partner we ticked every covid box. I am aware that I am very unfit having recently been the most sedentary I've ever been in my life but I played my first game of cricket of the season and at one point found myself gasping for air in a way I don't recall ever having done before. I don't know, it's probably the lack of fitness.

Oh and the whole economy, jobs and livelihoods thing doesn't look super duper either, does it?
 
Patient outcomes must improve as more is learned but no you're right the jobs front looks like it might become as bad as the early-mid 1980s.
 
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I don't seem to have the fatigue other people have had but I am not sure my lungs are back to normal at all. Don't really want to waste doctors time though and I'm not sure when I'm going to be able to see them.
 
frogwoman said:
I don't seem to have the fatigue other people have had but I am not sure my lungs are back to normal at all. Don't really want to waste doctors time though and I'm not sure when I'm going to be able to see them.
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Phone interview? I've not seen whether asthma-type inhalers help but might be worth asking whether you could try one?
 
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