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'Fracking' for gas in Llandow, Vale of Glamorgan

not balanced that report, nothing about the dangers and that it won't bring down prices here :mad:
bollocks
 
more straight out propaganda! :mad:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-24026014
nothing about danger underground etc, no counter argument

A senior government minister has thrown his weight behind the exploitation of shale gas. It is suggested that south Wales has huge reserves that could be tapped by a process called fracking.

Protestors in the Vale of Glamorgan have already made clear their opposition to exploiting gas reserves.

The supporters of shale gas promise it will bring cheaper fuel bills and energy self sufficiency.
BBC Wales environment correspondent Iolo ap Dafydd spoke to Wales Today presenter Jamie Owen about the implications of Energy Secretary Ed Davey's comments to the Royal Society.
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BBC coverage of Wales often seems particularly prone to being lobbied by interest groups, normally government or corporate interest-favouring ...

Above opinion based on watching the Welsh bit of BBC Breakfast most days ...
 
William of Walworth said:
BBC coverage of Wales often seems particularly prone to being lobbied by interest groups, normally government or corporate interest-favouring ...

Above opinion based on watching the Welsh bit of BBC Breakfast most days ...
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Yup. Same across the board. Currently, for example, Welsh rugby is in danger of extinction due to the new breakaway European competition. Much of this is down to the battle between clubs and union. It's a very relevant debate to be had that impacts on a national sport. BBC Wales' coverage, however, is shallow, one-sided and lazy, and that's being kind. I think it's down to the ease with which BBC Wales executives can be 'got at' by corporate or vested interests in the small pond that is, essentially, Cardiff, when everyone is jostling up against one another.
 
Too right...!

The boyos are worried about local backlash and their job preservation on the taffia gravy train.

Can't be getting the fairly politically apathetic majority radicalised and starting to question just what is the welsh assembly for.

It was suggested to me by my local councilor , and I don't think he was jesting, a week or two ago that the anti frackers were being funded by the Russians.

Amazments

There's a meeting in Bridgend tonight .......might toddle along if a mates up for a pint.
 
Well, interesting meeting......

The websites "Frack free Wales" has very little being inputed into it , and the " the vale says no" has even less , as the original person running it has withdrawn as it has been overwhelming her.

The 3 main sites have all got planning permission to test drill within the next 3years as mentioned earlier, so its now down to Gerwyn in the shed to the timing and whether he has the finances for it., A waiting and watching game.....as soon as they start the ground and access preparation , the local groups will notify everyone else ....then what ?
Seems to me that there are a lot of little groups all doing their own thing, with seemingly limited communication in getting the message out from their groups as to what's going on.

Glad I went ,
 
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Cluff Natural Resources (LON:CLNR) has raised £2mln from investors to help it take forward five underground coal gasification projects in the UK.
The group’s projects are found in the Firth of Forth, in Scotland; the Loughor Estuary in Carmarthenshire, South Wales; the Dee Estuary, in North Wales and Merseyside; and at Whitehaven in Cumbria.
Using the cash, Cluff Natural plans to advance work on feasibility studies, as well as assessing geological and seismic data, securing land options for possible test drilling, and work on environmental impact assessments.
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I thought that the coal gasification plan's were less well advanced than fracking , how wrong was I

All of shore due to fairly good possibility of it turning to shit
 
more 'good news' about jobs from shale gas extraction
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/fracking-companies-claim-south-wales-6351720
Gerwyn again too
Viable shale gas under one area of South Wales alone could amount to six times the UK’s entire 2011 consumption, MPs have been told.

A trio of energy firms appearing before the House of Commons Welsh Affairs select committee said extraction of shale gas could provide tens of thousands of jobs across the UK and said the potential in Wales and the north west of England was “immense”.

Energy firm Coastal Oil and Gas Ltd told the Welsh Affairs Select Committee there was “immense” potential for development of unconventional gas in Wales, estimating there could be up to 50 trillion cubic feet (bcf) of shale gas in one part of South Wales alone, of which around 18 bcf is recoverable. The UK used just over three trillion in 2011.

But one firm said the likely impact on household energy bills of widespread shale gas exploration and exploitation would be to hold them at current levels, rather than cut them.
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Apart from the HGV,s the jobs are fairly niche and will be imported in on short term contacts from a global job pool

Well , no surprises here in the granaid

Just like nuclear in its early days, all about the profits now , and no consideration for the future and the waste implications.
Taxpayers will pay to clean up any pollution caused by fracking if the companies go bankrupt, after a proposal to make UK operators take out insurance against such damage was ruled out by the government.
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http://gu.com/p/3y5hx

Gerwyns running on a shoestring, particularly after the last deal with the ozzies fell through.

The bulk of pipe string failures occur a decade or two after extraction and capping.
Gerwyn will be long gone, and the taxpyer will be left holding the can.
Silicosis/asbestos/thalidomide anyone? Similar time scale!
Quite telling that the insurance companies are a bit leary about issuing bonds ...

Try selling your house , and getting insurance cover or buyers getting a mortgage if in the vicinity of a frack too.

Hey ho !

That photo from Wheaton, Blackpool
Cuadrilla-shale-gas-drill-008.jpg

Where hell is the safety margin for rainfall , its even got a downslope off to the left of picture
 
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Tankus said:
Apart from the HGV,s the jobs are fairly niche and will be imported in on short term contacts from a global job pool

Well , no surprises here in the granaid

Just like nuclear in its early days, all about the profits now , and no consideration for the future and the waste implications.


http://gu.com/p/3y5hx

Gerwyns running on a shoestring, particularly after the last deal with the ozzies fell through.

The bulk of pipe string failures occur a decade or two after extraction and capping.
Gerwyn will be long gone, and the taxpyer will be left holding the can.
Silicosis/asbestos/thalidomide anyone? Similar time scale!
Quite telling that the insurance companies are a bit leary about issuing bonds ...

Try selling your house , and getting insurance cover or buyers getting a mortgage if in the vicinity of a frack too.

Hey ho !

That photo from Wheaton, Blackpool
Cuadrilla-shale-gas-drill-008.jpg

Where hell is the safety margin for rainfall , its even got a downslope off to the left of picture
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So it's happening. Now let's see to what degree our government are able to localise jobs and profit.

You may be unsurprised to learn that I am not optimistic.
 
At the last meeting in Bonvilston reading rooms it seemed as though it was all go, and that Gerwyn has 3 years to get in there ....The first the villagers at Llantrithyd would know is when the groundwork prep starts for the pads or road widening at the gate and road up to the A 48......
 
Tankus said:
At the last meeting in Bonvilston reading rooms it seemed as though it was all go, and that Gerwyn has 3 years to get in there ....The first the villagers at Llantrithyd would know is when the groundwork prep starts for the pads or road widening at the gate and road up to the A 48......
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That's my, and many more Llantonians', route to and from work. There's going to be lorries galore along that stretch, right? To what degree are they going to widen? Two lanes mandatory, I'm assuming. That's a big bit of work in itself.
 
bastards wanna do it in brryport harbour..they can frak off! there is a campain under that name "frak off" but I doubt it gona go very far..the peole running the show have no clue abou the heritage(sp) of where the fracking they just slip a politition a few thousand and all of a sudden the council say yes ok..i dnt think its started yetbut it hink its coming :( :(

yea lets destroy the planet :(
 
we (me and s14n) are going to a meeting nia griffith is doing a meeting on it..public opinion from what i get from people on the bus is ~"they better not bring that bloody fraking crap here, it wont happen here i tell you" well, i dunno if some semi-pissed bus pass using peeps on a bus are gonna stop 'em. i might take my chainsaw, and my blades and my mutha fuckin uzi licking AK-mutha-fuckin-47.. tied to a nine, a glock, a few old grenades that didnt go off and its BOOM TOWN! but s14n says more likely they not let me in and police might happen if i do all that. so i'll just tell 'em to FUCK OF b4 and after i tell 'em to FRAK OFF.

oh and draigg, llainelli? (i kidding)
 
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Vale is Not for Shale benefit gig at Cowbridge Town Hall Sat 22 Feb
https://www.facebook.com/events/487758954677875
Trwbador / The Earth / Cian Ciarán / Colum Regan / The Rumble-O's / Climbing Trees / Vinna Bee / The Lunarcyclist / Nancy Ackroyd / DJ Cymru Wales / DJ Staff Only

Raising awareness of plans for test drilling and fracking in the Vale of Glamorgan.
Raising funds for the campaign to stop them.

We’re hosting this music event to celebrate the beauty, tranquility and unspoilt rural character of the Vale of Glamorgan.

We are determined to protect the Vale from the very real threat of becoming a shale gas production field, with all its infrastructure, noise and environmental risks.

Everybody involved in this concert - the musicians, organisers, bar and security staff - are giving of their time for free because they share the same goal, to stop fracking.

We will see drill rigs in the Vale of Glamorgan before this year is out. Money raised from this concert will help us oppose them. We thank you for your support.

Llantrithyd Villagers Against Drilling
The Vale Says No
Frack Free Wales
Friends of the Earth, Barry & the Vale

Tickets £10 on the door, £10+booking fee online.
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me ..... earlier
At the last meeting in Bonvilston reading rooms it seemed as though it was all go, and that Gerwyn has 3 years to get in there ....The first the villagers at Llantrithyd would know is when the groundwork prep starts for the pads or road widening at the gate and road up to the A 48......
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err ...road is now being widened on my side near west aberthaw and that awkward kink being taken out just before the garage ! , Hmm .....you don't think.....?

make it 7 secs quicker for me to get to LLantwit anyways
 
anything to do with this
http://www.valeofglamorgan.gov.uk/D...013/46-LDP-Draft-Infrastructure-Plan-2013.pdf

4th paragraph on page 18
Gileston – Old Mill B4265 Improvement Scheme

2.2.63 Movement along the B4265 was significantly improved following the construction of the Rhoose
and Llantwit Major bypasses, however, there remains one section of the road, between
Aberthaw and St. Athan, where a sharp bend creates significant road safety issues. The
Gileston - Old Mill improvement proposal will comprise on and off line improvements to the
B4265 that will include both horizontal and vertical carriageway realignment to alleviate the
existing highway safety issues along this key access corridor that forms the primary road
connection to Aberthaw Power Station, Llantwit Major and the Aerospace Business Park /
Enterprise Zone at St. Athan.
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I like bendy twisty bits too but that bit has always seemed a bit iffy to me especially coming after a fairly open wide stretch of road as it does.
 
I'm old enough to remember when all traffic went over the old stone bridge which is now 50yards away from the road on the Aberthaw side of the nasty bend!
 
Hmm.... seeing these now on jobsearch for the Vale ...a few of them

Oil & Gas Personnel required.
Onshore/Offshore contracts Worldwide.
Excellent rates for the right candidates.
Our clients are market leaders in their fields,and are recruiting from all over the UK & Europe.
All disciplines required,ie.
I&E Technicians,Sr Maintenance Engineers,Sr Process Engineers,Project Engineers,HSE Engineers,Piping/Structural/Construction Engineers,Electrical/Mechanical Engineers,Platers,Pipefitters,Coded Welders,Riggers,Roustabouts,Maintenance Superintendents,Deck Crew,FPSO Lead Operators,Insrumentation & Control Engineers,Crane Riggers,Diesel Mechanics,Lead HVAC Electrical Technicians,Crane Operators,Mechanics,etc.
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And others specifically for riggers
 
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